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Anybody else allergic to beer?
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i enjoy a good beer, never negatively effects my stomach
GoldenDelicious
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rum tends to be one of the nastier drinks in terms of cogeners (the other chemicals that make it into the final distillate in any liquor distillation process) and so right away we can almost exclude those as being the difference between to two (since it would be the other way round) and also, given that even a single beer can make you feel ill, we can exclude different blood ethanol concentration vs time curves as being the problem, so really, an educated guess (mine) would be either the sucrose in the rum and coke helping break down the ethanol in a friendly way (since dark rum is sweetened with sucrose, and coke is loaded with it) which is the opposite of most american beers, which contain virtually nil carbs, OR its a simple matter of you being sensitive to one or another chemical in the beer, which is made from completely differnt things (rum is made from fermented molasses, which is distilled over at about 70-75%, mixed with water and a little more molasses, and whatever herbs and spices they want to put in to give it a different flavour, while beer is (generally) made from malt, flavored with various hops (a type of flower) and bottled...though some newer beers, carlsburg being the most famous, are actually made from whole cereals with industrially synthetised enzymed throw in to make the carbs fermentable prior to hop addition and fermentation)
so yah. wanna see pics of my homebrew setup?
so yah. wanna see pics of my homebrew setup?
HS Lifter
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GoldenDelicious said:rum tends to be one of the nastier drinks in terms of cogeners (the other chemicals that make it into the final distillate in any liquor distillation process) and so right away we can almost exclude those as being the difference between to two (since it would be the other way round) and also, given that even a single beer can make you feel ill, we can exclude different blood ethanol concentration vs time curves as being the problem, so really, an educated guess (mine) would be either the sucrose in the rum and coke helping break down the ethanol in a friendly way (since dark rum is sweetened with sucrose, and coke is loaded with it) which is the opposite of most american beers, which contain virtually nil carbs, OR its a simple matter of you being sensitive to one or another chemical in the beer, which is made from completely differnt things (rum is made from fermented molasses, which is distilled over at about 70-75%, mixed with water and a little more molasses, and whatever herbs and spices they want to put in to give it a different flavour, while beer is (generally) made from malt, flavored with various hops (a type of flower) and bottled...though some newer beers, carlsburg being the most famous, are actually made from whole cereals with industrially synthetised enzymed throw in to make the carbs fermentable prior to hop addition and fermentation)
so yah. wanna see pics of my homebrew setup?
Good post.
I think I might be sensitive to a certain chemical in beer.
Also, I feel great until I go to bed, but I wake up in the middle of the night with the "Ah shit, I got to puke" feeling.... which blows.
I will try that cereal beer and see how my body absorbs that.
GoldenDelicious
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it can be a few things.
ethanol is a gastric irritant, and so can cause nausea and vomiting
also, ethanol can bring on vertigo, which will also cause nausea and vomiting
the main one is, though, that some of the chemicals produced during fermentation (such as aliphatic esters, which are present in higher quantities when fermentation is done at higher temperatures) can produce prolonged nausea and vomiting. there are hundreds of chemicals in most alcoholic beverages that will happily do this, though the aliphatic esters are the most commonly blamed, along with....aaaargh shit i forget the name, theyre the ones found in the tail end of distillation.....aaaaargh yeah anyway, those ones too (dammit. im going to google it now)
then theres the crowd of people who think that the nausea is a result of low available amino acids, or that some cofactors/reagents in the body are consumed during ethanol breakdown, and their deficiency interferes with other body processes causing nausea etc etc etc but imo, theyre just trying to sell you anti hangover medicines
speaking of alcomohol, its about 9pm, friday night...i think its time to let Evil Delicious have a go in the drivers seat
ethanol is a gastric irritant, and so can cause nausea and vomiting
also, ethanol can bring on vertigo, which will also cause nausea and vomiting
the main one is, though, that some of the chemicals produced during fermentation (such as aliphatic esters, which are present in higher quantities when fermentation is done at higher temperatures) can produce prolonged nausea and vomiting. there are hundreds of chemicals in most alcoholic beverages that will happily do this, though the aliphatic esters are the most commonly blamed, along with....aaaargh shit i forget the name, theyre the ones found in the tail end of distillation.....aaaaargh yeah anyway, those ones too (dammit. im going to google it now)
then theres the crowd of people who think that the nausea is a result of low available amino acids, or that some cofactors/reagents in the body are consumed during ethanol breakdown, and their deficiency interferes with other body processes causing nausea etc etc etc but imo, theyre just trying to sell you anti hangover medicines
speaking of alcomohol, its about 9pm, friday night...i think its time to let Evil Delicious have a go in the drivers seat
pintoca
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Beer can give you the runs... when you drink it in excess.
BTW, "beer", according to the German Beer Purity Law (Reinheitgebot) from 1516 can only be made using EXCLUSIVELY Malt, Hops and water... nothing more, nothing less... I peaked at the ingredient list in a Corono beer recently and almost puked: Citric Acid, rice, etc... The more you put in a product the bigger the chance somebodys stomach won't like it... Try an imported German Pils and see if you get the same results.
BTW, "beer", according to the German Beer Purity Law (Reinheitgebot) from 1516 can only be made using EXCLUSIVELY Malt, Hops and water... nothing more, nothing less... I peaked at the ingredient list in a Corono beer recently and almost puked: Citric Acid, rice, etc... The more you put in a product the bigger the chance somebodys stomach won't like it... Try an imported German Pils and see if you get the same results.
GoldenDelicious
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fusel oils. thats it 
pintoca
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GoldenDelicious said:fusel oils. thats it
I expect a full report of your nightly escapade on monday... it is been ages since I have a good laugh with non of the political nonsense of late.
Please make sure to use profusely the following terms:
real good
wanker
swamp monster
deliciousmobile
teeny
GoldenDelicious
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oh i have stories galore already pintoca, ive just done a wee bit too much to actually blurt it all outpintoca said:
because im scared someone in my home town will read it, put 2 and 2 together, and figure out who i am and also, there were some american servicemen in town recently who thought that they were rather heroic, the bunch of FUBU wearing wannabe nigga G wiggers, and were given a short sharp lesson (aka physical warning ) on proper nightclub manners. i didnt want to offend everyone even more by telling them about how their armed forces came to australia and got bopped (even though its quite amusing to see some drunk american yobbo bastard try to get muscley with some of the local guys (veterans of a hundred nightclub scuffles...with the wilderbeast we call women...before age 17 ) and get slugged in the middle of their crewmates and then tossed out on their heads by a bunch of smiling bouncers, who know exactly whats going on but love the entertainment....last time i got muscley with an american guy (last week lol) afterwards the bouncers came up to me with one of the bar girls (and i figured "here we go, now im going to get into a rumble with the bouncers and thrown out, which is going to totally FUBAR my hairstyle) and they said "so, mr delicious....have you filled out an application form to become a VIP member yet?" sometimes, i really like that bar
GoldenDelicious
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now you listen to me pintoca, when you live in a place where the men outnumber the women sooooooo badly that they let themselves slide to the point that you need to go to a powerlifting gym just so you can maneuver your girlfriend in bed while having sex, and then you get a great big american warship descending on you with 5000 sailors hard up for a good time, there are a number of things you have to accept - 1) all the local prostitutes are going to be walking bowlegged for a week, and not because i picked them up 2) all the decent girls in town are all going to stay home until all the sailors leave, and 3) there are going to be so many men in the nightclubs that its going to be like the annual worldwide salami, metwurst and cabana festival...only bigger, with more sausages. i couldnt FIND a girl in that crowd, let alone do my delicious mind trick (wave my hand with twinkling fingers in front of her and say "this is not the man you are looking for" "you are going to go to your home, and rethink your life...and have sex with me") sooooooooo theres bound to be a couple of brawls. what do you want me to do? pick up the bar staff? AGAIN?pintoca said:
but jsut for you pintoca, ill try
ziggyziggy
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Allergic to beer? Hardly. In fact, I seem to need greater intake as I grow older, in order to obtain it's desirable effects on the nervous system
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ziggyziggy
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pintoca said:
Let me know if you are ever considering moving here to DC. I can clue you into the neighborhoods to stay out of! The effect I was refering to was, er, simple inebriation. When you are a meathead like me, you gotta keep it simple.
Zig
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