Any GH users gotten gyno or symptoms from GH and hightend IGF-1?

[bbkingpin]

I believe the medical literature states that hGH can lead to gyno. But they do not know why and my Doctor who is Yale-educated and very smart said that there are lots of hormones that they haven't even discovered or that they do not understand their function. All I know is that Nolvadex works very well for me. Thank God! And since it is supposed to be most effective at binding and competing with estrogen in the breast tissue, I would never substitute it with an anti-aromatase but maybe only add an anti-aromatase with Nolva to see how it makes a difference. Nolva is cheap and available. Real Arimidex is VERY expensive. I can handle a little water retention so long as I do not get gyno. So, I'll stick with Nolvadex. And I don't know how SOLID got gyno while taking Nolva and L-dex. I would think that 40mg of Nolva alone would've done the trick. I already asked this, but has anyone ever tested L-dex to see if it is real?

 

[SOLID]

bump, I'm with BB...has anyone had it tested?

 

[Guey]

GH can cause gyno if it was bunk and nothing more than relabeled HCG. Food for thought.....

 

[getgo]

This if particular interest to me. I'm on my 5th cycle of Test E 500mg/wk, EQ 400mg/wk, Winny 50mg wk 1 - 4 and GH 2IU 6 days on 1 day off wk 1 - 14. I was also on 1mg ED Liqudex and 50mg Proviron. After about 2 weeks, I noticed tender nipples and pea-size lumps underneath the areolas. I have never had gyno before even at Test 750mg/wk and Fina 70mg ED. I started Nolvadex at 40mg/day but it's been about 11 days and my nipples are still slightly tender.

I have been trying to figure out what could have caused gyno this time around and even though I have completely stopped Test ( continuing with EQ 40mg/wk & 300mg Primo). After reading this post, I'm wondering if GH could possibly be causing it. I was about to up my GH dose to 4IU from today but now I'm not sure if I should. Can anyone explain if GH can in fact cause gyno?

 

[SOLID]

This if particular interest to me. I'm on my 5th cycle of Test E 500mg/wk, EQ 400mg/wk, Winny 50mg wk 1 - 4 and GH 2IU 6 days on 1 day off wk 1 - 14. I was also on 1mg ED Liqudex and 50mg Proviron. After about 2 weeks, I noticed tender nipples and pea-size lumps underneath the areolas. I have never had gyno before even at Test 750mg/wk and Fina 70mg ED. I started Nolvadex at 40mg/day but it's been about 11 days and my nipples are still slightly tender.

I have been trying to figure out what could have caused gyno this time around and even though I have completely stopped Test ( continuing with EQ 40mg/wk & 300mg Primo). After reading this post, I'm wondering if GH could possibly be causing it. I was about to up my GH dose to 4IU from today but now I'm not sure if I should. Can anyone explain if GH can in fact cause gyno?

high levels of IGF-1 bro. Where's the guru's on this one...

 

[getgo]

Hey Solid - I posted this on another board and this is one of the replies I got....

Yes absolutely it GH can and will cause gyno in some people!
I used it for a long time for like a year staight. Then the next time I got it while just bridging with GH alone (all real gh).
My opinion on gyno is;once you gete it you are always more succeptable to it.

I think the main culprit in GH induced gyno is IGF-1 & maybe 2. Anti-aromatase arimidex nor aromasin did shit to counter. In the case of gyno from GH clomid helped more. I would imagine form just blocking the receptors and. I've never tried nolavadex but imagine it would work as well or better though slightly negating the GH's growth properties.

I had my gyno removed and am still sensetive as hell to even test if I don't use anti-aromatase's.
All the shit about itch nipples and warning signs are bullshit!
Sometimes a person will get a warning and sometimes the shit just creeps up on you.
Sometimes you don't know you have hormonal resistent breast tissue fat(not the glandular tissue) until you diet down and the shit just won't go away. Gyno can be a 2 fold happening. Some people just get glandular swelling, others breast fat accumulation, while some get both.
Another reason people tend to notice gyno in the area of too much breast fat tissue is they do cycles where they cut calories at the same time they're cutting out the juice. This leave the testo to estro in favor of estrogen at the same time muscle loss is occuring. So post cycle gyno kicks in.
Make take/my experince/ my friends & aquaintances who've juiced and do juice.

My questions is:

1. On the assumption that it is GH induced gyno, should I stop taking GH? Right now my nipples are only slighty tender and don't look any different just that I can feel small lumps under the areolas.

 

[hitmeoff]

I would think Nolva would do the trick since Nolve decreases IGF-1 production.

 

[haxedout]

bump, I'm with BB...has anyone had it tested?

the shit needs to be.. i used it with my last test cycle and i was bloated and had gyno out the ass, i was using up to like 3-4 mg at one point just to stop the shit.. never did work.. then i went to arimidex and nolva and the gyno slowly progressed away.. ill never buy l-dex again...

 

[haxedout]

I would think Nolva would do the trick since Nolve decreases IGF-1 production.

thats not what your looking for if your on gh.. gh and nolvadex doesnt go togethor too well..

 

[Spidey]

thats not what your looking for if your on gh.. gh and nolvadex doesnt go togethor too well..

Please clarify. WHY doesn't Nolva and GH go together well?

-Spidey