Any further advice?

[magman1]

27 years old 210lbs about 11% bf. Haven't done aas in about 2 yrs.

Planning to run winny 50mg ed (inj) weeks 1-4 and var weeks 3-10. So four weeks of winny, 8 weeks of var, ten weeks total. Don't want to incorporate test as I'm having a bit of a gyno issue and not sure the cause, and primarily, I want as smooth a post cycle as possible. No desire for water weight and go down big time in strenght post cycle. Looking to cut the fck up.

Any advice? What should I have on hand besides liver support and trs / dermacrine for post cycle?

 

[2evil]

27 years old 210lbs about 11% bf. Haven't done aas in about 2 yrs.

Planning to run winny 50mg ed (inj) weeks 1-4 and var weeks 3-10. So four weeks of winny, 8 weeks of var, ten weeks total. Don't want to incorporate test as I'm having a bit of a gyno issue and not sure the cause, and primarily, I want as smooth a post cycle as possible. No desire for water weight and go down big time in strenght post cycle. Looking to cut the fck up.

Any advice? What should I have on hand besides liver support and trs / dermacrine for post cycle?

The way I look at that it you're still going to shut down your HTPA so you might as well do a proper cycle. You could run those compounds with a low test base and as long as you have adex on hand have no real gyno worries. You could shoot prop 3 times per week and have little to no bloat as well.

As for a smooth landing - I've been really impressed with the HCG 250iu 2 x pw with the TRS for PCT. Very smooth.

I've also had good success with AI Cycle support and Liv52. No elevated liver values 4 weeks post cycle even after running Superdrol for 6 weeks.

 

[magman1]

Thanks for the thoughts. Anyone else? My number 1 priority is keepable gains as I do not really believe in back to back cycling for my goals.
Recovery is number one concern. Would I be better doing var weeks 1-8 and winny weeks 1-4, or is it fine how I initially mentioned?

 

[2evil]

Are you wanting to avoid pinning also?

 

[magman1]

No, not doing so to avoid pins. Actually using inj winny to reduce liver stress

 

[2evil]

No, not doing so to avoid pins. Actually using inj winny to reduce liver stress

Then maybe some primo. No estrogen issues but you'd need to run it longer...

 

[magman1]

While cost isn't a huge issue, var and primo pushes it over the top. Was originally going to do ox only, but looking to throw in winny

 

[joe d]

just do the var solo for 8 weaks.

 

[magman1]

just do the var solo for 8 weaks.

Joe D....thanks for info dude, can tell by other posts your a knowledgeable bro....what makes you say to drop the 4 weeks of winny in this cycle?

Thanks bro

 

[joe d]

i think the winny is a waste combined with var. i think ir really adds to the sides while adding verry little to the desired effects. thats just me though.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Id just run the ox , nice gains in hardens and strenght that hangs around more after cycle .


Brad.