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Güclü_oglan

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Heya guys i've really been tempted to do a 30-50 week cycle of test enanthate at 500mg a week and sometimes cycle some tren acetate or tren enanthate during that cycle, and yes i will use hcg during the cycle (i will use 500iu e2d for one week every 7th week.

I got some questions for u guys who have been on for a long time:
1. Do your gains stagnate after a while or is there mojo all the way?
2. Will hcg help after such a long cycle? i don't wanna crasch too bad on the end
3. How are your blood-fat levels on such a long cycle? i'm not gonna use any orals at all only test and some tren but i'm still concerned about my blood-fats :worried:

Do you have any other experiences from a long cycle?

i'm homebrewing all my stuff that's why i got a very big stash atm. If i get employed during next week i will probadly add 3-4 ius of gh a day for the whole period

take care :heart:
 
Güclü_oglan said:
Heya guys i've really been tempted to do a 30-50 week cycle of test enanthate at 500mg a week and sometimes cycle some tren acetate or tren enanthate during that cycle, and yes i will use hcg during the cycle (i will use 500iu e2d for one week every 7th week.

I got some questions for u guys who have been on for a long time:
1. Do your gains stagnate after a while or is there mojo all the way?
2. Will hcg help after such a long cycle? i don't wanna crasch too bad on the end
3. How are your blood-fat levels on such a long cycle? i'm not gonna use any orals at all only test and some tren but i'm still concerned about my blood-fats :worried:

Do you have any other experiences from a long cycle?

i'm homebrewing all my stuff that's why i got a very big stash atm. If i get employed during next week i will probadly add 3-4 ius of gh a day for the whole period

take care :heart:
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Bro thats what I am planing on doing right now.I think as long as you run the HCG in there the rest can be handled.Also depending on how side prone you are will decide if its cool or not.I am not side prone at all.I dont ever really get any sides,so thats why I chose to go this long also to get the best benefits out of the gh I am going to be runing all year. :coffee:
 
hi its my first time ever to use steroids - im 18. i have some dianabol, and clomid to go along with it? i start on 15mg a day and end up on 40mg ad day in the 8th week. will i be ok on this or is it too much? much chances of gettin bad acne? thanks
 
mish12345 said:
hi its my first time ever to use steroids - im 18. i have some dianabol, and clomid to go along with it? i start on 15mg a day and end up on 40mg ad day in the 8th week. will i be ok on this or is it too much? much chances of gettin bad acne? thanks
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dont ramp the doses, eat 10mg of dbol each morning for 1-2 months and take the clomid at 50mg a day for a few weeks after the cycle. Not a very good cycle but you'll get the feel of using steroids and it can give you some strengthgains and a little extra mass then you would have gotten by training clean
 
Güclü_oglan said:
Heya guys i've really been tempted to do a 30-50 week cycle of test enanthate at 500mg a week and sometimes cycle some tren acetate or tren enanthate during that cycle, and yes i will use hcg during the cycle (i will use 500iu e2d for one week every 7th week.

I got some questions for u guys who have been on for a long time:
1. Do your gains stagnate after a while or is there mojo all the way?
2. Will hcg help after such a long cycle? i don't wanna crasch too bad on the end
3. How are your blood-fat levels on such a long cycle? i'm not gonna use any orals at all only test and some tren but i'm still concerned about my blood-fats :worried:

Do you have any other experiences from a long cycle?

i'm homebrewing all my stuff that's why i got a very big stash atm. If i get employed during next week i will probadly add 3-4 ius of gh a day for the whole period

take care :heart:
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hey man,
I've been on since October (an 8 month cycle) and I'm starting pct on Tuesday (did my last injection this friday : 100mg masteron, 150mg test prop and 50mg npp). During this cycle I used test (both as prop and enanthate) and nandrolone (both as npp and deca) as a base and on top of that I alternated things like dbol, winstrol, anadrol, then winstrol again, then winstrol + masteron (this phase). Dosages of winstrol were around 150mg /day (orally). I didn't stick with a very strict dosage scheme (only thing that was constant was the enathate at 500mg/wk), but I guess total amount must have been around 1200mg of injectables per week and as I said orals were about 150mg/day (except for the dbol - I used 'only' 30mg/day but next time I'll use more).

Now let's answer your questions :

1. Do your gains stagnate after a while or is there mojo all the way?

YES , after the fifth month or so (I can't remeber exactly) you stop growing. You can try increasing the dosages, but after awhile your growth will stop again. Even when I added the anadrol at 150mg I felt like a gorilla in the first 3 days but then it just disappeared and I ended up gaining nothing from it. I basically got all my gains in the first few months. That's why I won't do such a long cycle again in the future.

2. Will hcg help after such a long cycle? i don't wanna crasch too bad on the end

Like I said, I'm starting pct on Tuesday (I'm gonna follow drjmw's protocol). I'll let you know what happens.

3. How are your blood-fat levels on such a long cycle? i'm not gonna use any orals at all only test and some tren but i'm still concerned about my blood-fats

I have no idea. I could care less about the orals, the only thing that I didn't like about this cycle was the frequent injections I had to do because of the short esters. Frankly, I hate injections. I'm sick of them. Next time it's gonna be long esters only.

Please keep in my mind that what I did was only an experiment to evaluate the effectiveness of a very long cycle and that in no way do I recommend that anyone stays on for such a long time or uses the amounts I did.
 
I was once on test 600mg once a week for 3 years. now just eq, and throw some winny every now and then. Blood work every 4 months to watch the estrogen levels and test levels.
Nov 10mg a day. Good slow gains for the three years but when I eat bad it showed( water etc)
Güclü_oglan said:
Heya guys i've really been tempted to do a 30-50 week cycle of test enanthate at 500mg a week and sometimes cycle some tren acetate or tren enanthate during that cycle, and yes i will use hcg during the cycle (i will use 500iu e2d for one week every 7th week.

I got some questions for u guys who have been on for a long time:
1. Do your gains stagnate after a while or is there mojo all the way?
2. Will hcg help after such a long cycle? i don't wanna crasch too bad on the end
3. How are your blood-fat levels on such a long cycle? i'm not gonna use any orals at all only test and some tren but i'm still concerned about my blood-fats :worried:

Do you have any other experiences from a long cycle?

i'm homebrewing all my stuff that's why i got a very big stash atm. If i get employed during next week i will probadly add 3-4 ius of gh a day for the whole period

take care :heart:
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Güclü_oglan said:
thanks for the answers guys! i'm thinking about going 30 weeks instead of 50 then

anyone else with experiences from longer cycles?
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I haven't done any, but a friend has. He basically does two compounds for 12 weeks, then switches to another 2 compounds for 12 weeks, and then again. In there, he cycles orals.
 
Do you think the gains will stangnate if change up the compounds used every 12 months or so..... like go test 500 mg first 12 then 250 test and some deca. etc. etc
 
it helps to switch up the compounds - as well as cycling your diet and training between strength and size emphasis, to pumping and cutting
 
I will be bulking/cruising/cutting for a whole year during the bulking phases I will use slin at 10-15 ius per day pwo only and 4-6ius gh the whole year.First bulk then cruise while keeping calories high and lifting heavy to keep what you gained from the bulking then do 8 week cutters to shredd up any added bf from bulking wich shouldnt be too much as I like to bulk clean.
 
mish12345 said:
hi its my first time ever to use steroids - im 18. i have some dianabol, and clomid to go along with it? i start on 15mg a day and end up on 40mg ad day in the 8th week. will i be ok on this or is it too much? much chances of gettin bad acne? thanks
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First off your to young to be using anything . lift and eat right for a few years and see what happens before u jump into anything.
 
silverbackn said:
My question is why do you want to run a cycle this long? Do you compete?
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not yet i'm planning to in 2 years

edit- not bodybuilding, i'm moving to the states for playing baseball so i need to add alot of strength until then
 
Güclü_oglan said:
not yet i'm planning to in 2 years

edit- not bodybuilding, i'm moving to the states for playing baseball so i need to add alot of strength until then
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You can't rush strength and mass gains. I played baseball in college. Your connective tissues will not gain strength at the same rate as your skeletal muscle, as a baseball player this will increase your chance of injury. In my opinion you are going about this wrong. I played with a guy who used in college, he was hurt all the time. I'm not saying this is indicative of everyone who uses drugs, i'm just saying I think that it's an oft overlooked valid concern. Be careful brother. I would rather see you put together a few shorter cycles and allow your body to assimilate the new mass slower with concurrent gains in functional strength and connective tissue integrity.
 
silverbackn said:
You can't rush strength and mass gains. I played baseball in college. Your connective tissues will not gain strength at the same rate as your skeletal muscle, as a baseball player this will increase your chance of injury. In my opinion you are going about this wrong. I played with a guy who used in college, he was hurt all the time. I'm not saying this is indicative of everyone who uses drugs, i'm just saying I think that it's an oft overlooked valid concern. Be careful brother. I would rather see you put together a few shorter cycles and allow your body to assimilate the new mass slower with concurrent gains in functional strength and connective tissue integrity.
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Thanks for the reply bro, the thing is that i haven't had that much power in my hitting and now i will focus 150% on my batting for the next 2 years, with alot of technique and adding as much strength as possible. I've tought about the connective tissue thing that's why i didn't chose tren for this cycle i tought test at 500mg a week would increase my recovery a little and help me add the strength at a better pace of course i'm very careful not getting unecassary injuries. But i will shorten it down to 20 weeks then and do 2x 20 weekers 3 times in 2 years instead then

thanks
 
I am right in the middle of a 21 week cycle.
the key with mine is making a mgor shift in the middle from bulk compounds and no diet, to cutting w/ stricter diet. so far, so good...

1-11 = sus500mg, eq400mg
12-21 = primo600mg, eq400, winny25mg ed

i ran 1000i.u once a week 1-11 and will do 5000u.i shot in 10 days
then i will keep running 500u.i p/week while on the primo, 3000u.i every 2 days (4 shots) when coming off.

i have been doing 20mg of Nolvadex ED so far. will do 60MG ED for 2 weeks in 10 days (trying to time as sus wears off)
 
Sounds like a crapass idea for someone in your position.
 
I used to never really be off. I would take a 2 week hiatis here and there. But I was on for about 3 years staight. A total of 3 months off
 
wtlftr said:
I used to never really be off. I would take a 2 week hiatis here and there. But I was on for about 3 years staight. A total of 3 months off
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That doesn't tell us anything. What were your results? Would you do it again? I'm sure recovery was murder.
 
wtlftr said:
I started at 180 (5'11") and I am now 240 same height. Yes I would do it again
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Did you have any bloodwork done during that time? How much did your values change?
 
wtlftr said:
I started at 180 (5'11") and I am now 240 same height. Yes I would do it again
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hey, was that 60 pounds mostly muscle? If it was wow what a transformation. Cause I mean if it was 30 fat 30 muscle that'd be different. What age were you and any things bad go wrong what would you change if you could have? What are you doing now as far as AAS goes.
 
Güclü_oglan said:
Heya guys i've really been tempted to do a 30-50 week cycle of test enanthate at 500mg a week and sometimes cycle some tren acetate or tren enanthate during that cycle, and yes i will use hcg during the cycle (i will use 500iu e2d for one week every 7th week.

I got some questions for u guys who have been on for a long time:
1. Do your gains stagnate after a while or is there mojo all the way?
2. Will hcg help after such a long cycle? i don't wanna crasch too bad on the end
3. How are your blood-fat levels on such a long cycle? i'm not gonna use any orals at all only test and some tren but i'm still concerned about my blood-fats :worried:

Do you have any other experiences from a long cycle?

i'm homebrewing all my stuff that's why i got a very big stash atm. If i get employed during next week i will probadly add 3-4 ius of gh a day for the whole period

take care :heart:
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I've been on HRT, 200mg Upjohn testosterone cypionate every 10 days for 5 years now and man am I freaking hairy. Even my dick has hair on it now. After I shave down I can make a wig out of my body hair.
 
wtlftr said:
I started at 180 (5'11") and I am now 240 same height. Yes I would do it again
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Hey that is an awesome gains bro please give us more details.What were sides like what was bf% at the begining and at the end and did you run gh or slin in there.
 
I started out at 180 12%. As my wt increased I had to gain some BF. I was at my biggest at 250 15%. For about a year and a half I used HGH and test. I am about 15% BF now and have been clean for awhile. I think that HGH was a big benefit (however expensive). My workout switched from BB workouot for 6 weeks followed by PL workout for 6 weeks. I did things right. My results are not typical.. My background is a speacialty in nutrition, certifications in CSCS, ACE, and ACSM. And I have a Masters degree. I did not do this just by the seat of my pants
 
dont u want to be big and cut though why did you let yourself get up to 15 percent body fat, and why do you stay that high?
 
mish12345 said:
hi its my first time ever to use steroids - im 18. i have some dianabol, and clomid to go along with it? i start on 15mg a day and end up on 40mg ad day in the 8th week. will i be ok on this or is it too much? much chances of gettin bad acne? thanks
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Talk about hijacking a post.
 
Just got off of a 36 weeker about a month ago. Gained about 14 pounds of good muscle. I posted a lot about it on AR.
 
chef J were did you post a lot about it? Can anyone figure out how much LBM wtlfter put on over the 3 year period of time? Im way to dumb haha
 
wtlftr said:
I started out at 180 12%. As my wt increased I had to gain some BF. I was at my biggest at 250 15%. For about a year and a half I used HGH and test. I am about 15% BF now and have been clean for awhile. I think that HGH was a big benefit (however expensive). My workout switched from BB workouot for 6 weeks followed by PL workout for 6 weeks. I did things right. My results are not typical.. My background is a speacialty in nutrition, certifications in CSCS, ACE, and ACSM. And I have a Masters degree. I did not do this just by the seat of my pants
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I'm rocking the CSCS too, that shit is the real deal baby!
 
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