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Any Big Guy diets???

diamonddiceclay said:
A MEAL=EATING SOMETHING. a SHAKE=DRINKING SOMETHING.

now that i totally do not agree wiht, so your saying while i am cutting i can go out each night and drink 12 beers b/c it is drinking something, i dont need to worry about the nutritional info cuz that doesnt count. sorry man i dont agree wiht that statement at all.
 
OK, to stop any unnecessary flaming on the meal/shake stuff, if you want to include the shake as a meal, then use it as a meal. I will personally use it as a supplement b/c that what it is. The protein is too fast digesting, so that's why it's a bad choice to use as a meal. But do whatcha gotta do to get your protein..
 
6 Pack Man said:
. I will personally use it as a supplement b/c that what it is. The protein is too fast digesting, so that's why it's a bad choice to use as a meal. But do whatcha gotta do to get your protein..

Ok, not flaming, but are you saying that you eat real food 5 or 6 times a day and have shakes?

ND
 
NateDogg said:


Ok, not flaming, but are you saying that you eat real food 5 or 6 times a day and have shakes?

ND

I eat 6 real meals a day, and 1 shake post workout, which is actually 2 servings of my protein powder. I then will also add 1 scoop of protein powder to my oatmeal, but I do this for flavoring b/c I'm about sick of plain oatmeal. But the added protein doesn't hurt either.
 
Lets be honest here, 1 tin of tuna has about 35grams of protein in it, one protein shake of say 75 grams of whey has 75grams of protein... BUT... I bet my life that you will see more gains from the Tuna than the shake.

Try getting 250 grams of protein a day from food as opposed to 400 grams a day from shakes, you see better gains from the food - simple fact, well for me anyway, I've done it several times.

Shakes just go through you, there is no replacement for real food. 18 eggs a day, 4 tins of tuna a day (200gram tins), 3 chicken breasts a day and you are growing. All these shakes just go in one end and out the other in my opinion. All the advertising is hype and bullshit, I have stopped drinking shakes, period, I just get my protein from food and I am growing faster than when I spent $100 a week on whey. Only supplements I take are creatine and vitamins/minerals.

Pete
 
impakt said:
I spent $100 a week on whey.
Pete

Dude, what kind of whey were you using? Is it possible to eat that much in a week? I just ordered 10lbs for 50 bucks, so you were eating about 20 lbs a week, HOLY SHIT! I believe that there is a happy medium, do not get 400 grams from shakes and none from real food, try 350 from food and 50 from a postworkout shake or something like that.

ND
 
impakt said:


Shakes just go through you, there is no replacement for real food. 18 eggs a day, 4 tins of tuna a day (200gram tins), 3 chicken breasts a day and you are growing. All these shakes just go in one end and out the other in my opinion. .

Pete


even if my main goal here is to drop body fat, eating like this would be ok for me?
 
NateDogg, I live in the UK, here Prolab Whey is £29.99 for 2lb, thats about $45. I'm just speaking as I find, maybe others have had better results with Whey, I just find real food to be far better.

CongoJoe, for me reducing carbs and doing 3 x 45mins of cardio a week helps me lose fat as well as ephedrine/caffeine and aspirin. You will need to workout your best calorie intake and alter carbs. If you are getting weak in the gym then add some more carbs on training days, its trial and error. Personally I wouldn't try reducing bodyfat without using some gear, even 400mg Deca weekly will help prevent muscle loss.

Pete
 
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