any advice first timer cycle?

[jdubbster]

Okay guys I'm new so don't bash me too hard bro's . This will be my first cycle so I'm looking for some pretty good gains.. I'm 27 ( 6-2) 200lb and about 10 % bf. I've been training really hard all through college and to current day. My goals are to put on some hard muscle and become vascular as fuck; "to put it lightly" . I don't want to bloat but my frame can probably hold another 25 lbs with ease. I'm running winstrol tabs ( 50mg for the first four weeks and was thinking of starting some test 200cc a week for 6 weeks for the end of my first cycle? What do you guys think ? Is this any good?

 

[sweed]

what kind of test would you bew running? prop, enanthate, cypionate? if the later 2 then 6 weeks would be too short, at least 8 weeks and preferably 10. the last 4 week the winny could be incorpoated. this would yeild some good gains.

 

[jdubbster]

Mr. Sweed,

your right I will run the test for a 10 weeker and I'm not really sure as to which variety of test that I'll be running? Any suggestions? I'm running the winstrol tabs first just because I think it will get me going for the injects later with the test. I'm sure once I see myself getting vascular as fuck ; I won't mind the stab. ... I'm really looking to put on about 15-20 of hard muscle.. As long as i'm hard as fucking nails bro-

 

[justaskme]

EQ @ 400/wk or Deca @ 300/wk for 10 weeks and run the winny last 4 wk

 

[swordfish151]

test wks 1-10
Winny wks 6-10

that would be a good way to go

 

[sweed]

test wks 1-10
Winny wks 6-10

that would be a good way to go

could bring the winny out to week 11... bring it right out the day before starting pct.
dubbster- go with enanthate or cypionate for this cycle.
I ran dbol for a kick start for my firt cycle ( i just finished) and that worked great, but do not run those.. only 1 oral is enough for this first cycle. You can front load the test the first few weeks to get it to kick off sooner.
btw, what do u have for pct?

 

[jdubbster]

Mr. Sweed .

I don't have shit yet for the pct( post cycle therapy)? I'm up for suggestions?

 

[sweed]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376177
read up on that. great post by a greaty member. everything u need in there.

 

[a-bomb5083]

you don't want to bloat, yet you want to take 200cc/test per week? never heard of anybody on 40grams of test per week, thats pretty ruff.

in all honesty, i think you ned a little more reserach before you go poking yourself. read up on proper PCT, what to run during your cycle, afterwards and so on and so forth. i'm pretty sure there is a PCT forum on here.

if your going to run winny, (which i hope your not already doing) you want to go with test propionate. its a faster acting ester, which means to really get the full effects of it will only take maybe 2 weeks, as with the other esters, like 4-5 weeks. you could run the prop for 8 weeks and needs to be shot at least EOD. and run your winny at the end.

and keep on researching bro, nobody ever knows EVERYTHING about what we do. even the oldest vet and most experienced mod's dont' have the answers to everything. so the best thing to do inyour case is to keep on reading and learn all the basics and just soak up all info you can bro, and good luck.

 

[jdubbster]

you don't want to bloat, yet you want to take 200cc/test per week? never heard of anybody on 40grams of test per week, thats pretty ruff.

in all honesty, i think you ned a little more reserach before you go poking yourself. read up on proper PCT, what to run during your cycle, afterwards and so on and so forth. i'm pretty sure there is a PCT forum on here.

if your going to run winny, (which i hope your not already doing) you want to go with test propionate. its a faster acting ester, which means to really get the full effects of it will only take maybe 2 weeks, as with the other esters, like 4-5 weeks. you could run the prop for 8 weeks and needs to be shot at least EOD. and run your winny at the end.

and keep on researching bro, nobody ever knows EVERYTHING about what we do. even the oldest vet and most experienced mod's dont' have the answers to everything. so the best thing to do inyour case is to keep on reading and learn all the basics and just soak up all info you can bro, and good luck.

ABOMB

SORRY DUDE, I was at work and I meant to say 200 mg of test a week not 200cc! Oh and I'm still researching daily on the pct side of the cycle . No worries bro I'm quite a avid researcher but I'm learning a great deal as I go . Thanks for the input I guess I did sound like a jackass...