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zeplin7464

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ive been on winni for the past 12 days per say in addition to 125 mg of deca which was just dropped down from 250 on wk # 7 which is when i started the stan. ive put on a good 15 pounds of lean mass so far and have extreemly increased my stregnth, even more so with the addition of winni, BUT....i started noticing extremely increased anxiety/panic which i already had a little of pre cycle, some dizziness/head aches, and depression. Has any one had any of these sides from winni or do you guys think its the fact that its been about 13 days since i lowered my deca dosage?

And yes i know i shouldve used test w/ this cycle but it wasnt an option:(...post cycle im planning on using clomid and some hcg.

i would ask my doc, but he is on vacation for the next week so im wondering what u guys think i should do/ whats causing it/ or related side effect experiences.
thanks bros
 
There comes a point in our anabolic supplement career (if you will) where we realize some compounds are just not for us.

Deca is one of them for ME, and it appears it is for you as well.

Without getting into detail, you need to drop the deca altogether. Take some aromasin and dostinex for 3 weeks, see how you feel at that point.

Clomid and HCG? No. HCG will make you even more estro sensitive which I think is your issue here. Clomid will have you feeling worse.

My suggestion - drop deca once you have the following on hand. Take 10mg aromasin EOD and .5mg dostinex twice per week for 3 weeks. See how you feel.

Next time try something like test/mast or test/primo. You'll feel like a million bucks.

OR replace the test with dermacrine and run that with primo or mast for 8 weeks.

You good?
 
ive been on winni for the past 12 days per say in addition to 125 mg of deca which was just dropped down from 250 on wk # 7 which is when i started the stan. ive put on a good 15 pounds of lean mass so far and have extreemly increased my stregnth, even more so with the addition of winni, BUT....i started noticing extremely increased anxiety/panic which i already had a little of pre cycle, some dizziness/head aches, and depression. Has any one had any of these sides from winni or do you guys think its the fact that its been about 13 days since i lowered my deca dosage?

And yes i know i shouldve used test w/ this cycle but it wasnt an option:(...post cycle im planning on using clomid and some hcg.

i would ask my doc, but he is on vacation for the next week so im wondering what u guys think i should do/ whats causing it/ or related side effect experiences.
thanks bros

Winny gave me anxiety attacks as well. I did a solo Winny Depot cycle at 100 mg/EOD for 6 weeks and barely made it to the end. I started getting the anxiety attacks about 3 weeks into it. Once I realized what was going on I was able to tough it out with some yoga breathing exercises. It took a bit of concentrating but once I got it down I was able to control it. Haha, I remember the first one made me think I was having a heart attack or something. I can laugh about it now but when I was going through it, I thought I was dying.
 
I definetly know what youre talking about...anxiety SUCKS bad...so hard to concentrate

I cant say for the winni, but deca seems to give me mild anxiety attacks....
 
There comes a point in our anabolic supplement career (if you will) where we realize some compounds are just not for us.

Deca is one of them for ME, and it appears it is for you as well.

Without getting into detail, you need to drop the deca altogether. Take some aromasin and dostinex for 3 weeks, see how you feel at that point.

Clomid and HCG? No. HCG will make you even more estro sensitive which I think is your issue here. Clomid will have you feeling worse.

My suggestion - drop deca once you have the following on hand. Take 10mg aromasin EOD and .5mg dostinex twice per week for 3 weeks. See how you feel.

Next time try something like test/mast or test/primo. You'll feel like a million bucks.

OR replace the test with dermacrine and run that with primo or mast for 8 weeks.

You good?

+1
Take Swole's advice. It's right on the money, bro.
 
There comes a point in our anabolic supplement career (if you will) where we realize some compounds are just not for us.

Deca is one of them for ME, and it appears it is for you as well.

Without getting into detail, you need to drop the deca altogether. Take some aromasin and dostinex for 3 weeks, see how you feel at that point.

Clomid and HCG? No. HCG will make you even more estro sensitive which I think is your issue here. Clomid will have you feeling worse.

My suggestion - drop deca once you have the following on hand. Take 10mg aromasin EOD and .5mg dostinex twice per week for 3 weeks. See how you feel.

Next time try something like test/mast or test/primo. You'll feel like a million bucks.

OR replace the test with dermacrine and run that with primo or mast for 8 weeks.

You good?
yea i was thinking that i had increased sensitivity to estrogen as well...the problem is i bought the clomid and all this other shit and dont have the funds right now to get any aromasin or dostinex...so all i hvae is the clomid, i cant get anything else; yah i should have thought about this sooner but whats done is done and i need help out.:( how willthe clomid make me feel worse? and should i drop the winni as well?

also no HCG because of the negative feedback loop so my body will up the estro even more?
 
yea i was thinking that i had increased sensitivity to estrogen as well...the problem is i bought the clomid and all this other shit and dont have the funds right now to get any aromasin or dostinex...so all i hvae is the clomid, i cant get anything else; yah i should have thought about this sooner but whats done is done and i need help out.:( how willthe clomid make me feel worse? and should i drop the winni as well?

also no HCG because of the negative feedback loop so my body will up the estro even more?

Hey Zeplin,

While this situation sucks, it is NOT life threatening.
I know it's not easy, but you have to chill. Clomid has a bad reputation for causing the exact symptoms you are having. Anxiety, mood swings, emotional roller coster. It's like having PMS. It's the Estrogen bro, you are not losing your mind.:heart:
DO NOT take clomid. I would contact your Dr. ASAP. If he is out, he has an on call Dr. to handle his patients. CALL HIM, and tell him what's going on. Let us know how you make out.
 
I have heard of rare small % having problems..but typically only anxiety with TREN
 
I used tren/eq/winny/var/test together and sometimes felt I wanna die or kill somebody,got infection too.. but just got over it and got the body I always wanted and everybody jealous of it. There is no victory without sacrifice.
 
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