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Well, when you are better rested, please shaer your opinion on those 5 statements. I am curious....you could change my mind.
Hope to hear from you.
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Well, when you are better rested, please shaer your opinion on those 5 statements. I am curious....you could change my mind.
Hope to hear from you.
PURE EXTRACT
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Code said:
Well, that land is originally theirs. And YES I AM CORRECT, this is a exactly what they say, a "holy war" because if you read in the Bible, the land was basically stolen from them.
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Caesar_wv said:
Exactly...a dumbass. False god? Since I don't believe in their god yes he is a false god, but that doesn't mean we can dismiss their beliefs. But the way they go about spreading their beliefs...is pretty fucked up don't ya think. Believe me if it were up to me, I'd just launce a full scale invasion on their land. I mean EVERYONE: USA, CANADA, our buddies in Europe. Just take over that shit. But anyway, Bin Laden is like that dude that made all those people drink that kool-aid. Joe something or James I can't remember. Jim Jones??? aah shit my memory is shot...hey guess what? I just bought some fina
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PURE EXTRACT said:
That's absurd -- if you're going to start honoring 2000 yr. old claims on land, then we should give all of Europe, N. Africa, and Mesopotamia back to Italy, being that the Romans owned all of it. The Greeks might object, but let them figure that out between the two.
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Dude...did you read what I just wrote?? HELLLLOOOOOO. To them this is where all of this originated from...I myself am NOT claiming this to be true. It is simply what they (Jews and Palestinians) believe. That's absurd lol
And those are completely different issues with Europe, Africa, and Mesopotamia. They were conquered. The Jews were supposedly robbed from their land. Ok I'll make it really simply:
Blind Father----has 2 sons
Son #1 is supposed to be blessed by his father and afterwards will receive the land.
Son #2 outraged by his father's decision. Steals his brother's clothes and goes to their father
Blind Pops over here is tricked into thinking that #2 is #1. He blesses him and he takes the land.
Thus war for all this time. Read it for yourself.
And those are completely different issues with Europe, Africa, and Mesopotamia. They were conquered. The Jews were supposedly robbed from their land. Ok I'll make it really simply:
Blind Father----has 2 sons
Son #1 is supposed to be blessed by his father and afterwards will receive the land.
Son #2 outraged by his father's decision. Steals his brother's clothes and goes to their father
Blind Pops over here is tricked into thinking that #2 is #1. He blesses him and he takes the land.
Thus war for all this time. Read it for yourself.
clusterfoxtrot
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Ahhhh...It's good to see my old pal DBaller back in the melee again. We'll keep it nice, right?
I will be the first to admit that I am not versed enough on religious history to make statements about the Talmud, Bible, Koran, etc.
I do know, however, a little a bit about intelligence operations, warfare, and strategic planning. Let me throw a few additional points out there:
1) Israel's missile strike which killed the leader of the militant wing of Hamas incurred collateral damage. Read civilians and kids. Intelligence reporting can be only so real-time when you are targeting an individual who moves locations 3X daily, has told his wife that they will be targeted, and willingly puts himself in the middle of children.
2) Notice how quickly the press buried the attack in Afghanistan several weeks ago which killed 40+ civilians at a wedding. How is this different? If anything, it is more egregious. Was there a AAA site in the middle of the village? Who knows?
3) Much of our first strike capability in the Mid-East is through Israel. They are our eyes and ears to Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Syria, etc. Without their intel gathering capabilities and language skills, we would be near blind. Case in point: Iraq's nuclear reactor at Osiraq. Israel went in and destoyed the reactor before it came online in '81. Could the US have handled that operation so cleanly?
4) If you wan't to point the finger for Sep. 11, point it at the Clinton administration. The eviscerated our intelligence analysis capabilities. Not saying that we would have caught the comm in time, or even been able to interpret properly, but we are still flying in the dark. We let this whole Al Qaeda network grow under our nose. We had years of L-band intercepts from bin Laden himself and knew what he was up to. The fact that our arms have been bound, preventing us from tactical assasinations for decades has kept us from taking preemptive measure.
5) Israel provides us with a place where we can actually interrogate suspects. Because of candy-ass liberals, we cannot properly obtain information from suspects on US soil. When the caught the #4 al Qaeda guy a month or so ago - they took him to an "undisclosed location" for interrogation. Israel.
6) Why isn't anybody squawking about that little prick John Walker Lindh? The bastard is jailed up 4 miles from my house. I drive by him every day. He had info on the uprising that killed Mr. Spann. The should have interrogated him, given him a field trial for treason, and shot the little bastard on the spot.
Instead of trying to theorize about how "the Jews are evil" and how they are the reason for Sep. 11, and they control the media, ad nauseum - how about thinking about standing behind the only voice of reason in the Mid-East and standing up for the United States. We, the US, is to blame for Sep. 11.
Who really gives a crap about stories laid to parchment 1000-2000 years ago. There is no proof or historical accuracy in any of the documents. The fact that anyone would try and relate the equivalent of a fictional publication to current events/facts indiciates that they really don't have enough control and self-confidence to drive their own destiny.
Preemptively, I will answer the inevitable questions:
-Yes, I am Jewish;
-Yes, I am American;
-No, I do not consider myself religious, but rather spiritual - my relationship with God is my business, no one else's;
-Yes, I have been to the Mid-East and seen first hand what is going on;
-Yes, I know the story of the USS Liberty, don't bother going there.
Enjoy kids....
CF
I will be the first to admit that I am not versed enough on religious history to make statements about the Talmud, Bible, Koran, etc.
I do know, however, a little a bit about intelligence operations, warfare, and strategic planning. Let me throw a few additional points out there:
1) Israel's missile strike which killed the leader of the militant wing of Hamas incurred collateral damage. Read civilians and kids. Intelligence reporting can be only so real-time when you are targeting an individual who moves locations 3X daily, has told his wife that they will be targeted, and willingly puts himself in the middle of children.
2) Notice how quickly the press buried the attack in Afghanistan several weeks ago which killed 40+ civilians at a wedding. How is this different? If anything, it is more egregious. Was there a AAA site in the middle of the village? Who knows?
3) Much of our first strike capability in the Mid-East is through Israel. They are our eyes and ears to Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Syria, etc. Without their intel gathering capabilities and language skills, we would be near blind. Case in point: Iraq's nuclear reactor at Osiraq. Israel went in and destoyed the reactor before it came online in '81. Could the US have handled that operation so cleanly?
4) If you wan't to point the finger for Sep. 11, point it at the Clinton administration. The eviscerated our intelligence analysis capabilities. Not saying that we would have caught the comm in time, or even been able to interpret properly, but we are still flying in the dark. We let this whole Al Qaeda network grow under our nose. We had years of L-band intercepts from bin Laden himself and knew what he was up to. The fact that our arms have been bound, preventing us from tactical assasinations for decades has kept us from taking preemptive measure.
5) Israel provides us with a place where we can actually interrogate suspects. Because of candy-ass liberals, we cannot properly obtain information from suspects on US soil. When the caught the #4 al Qaeda guy a month or so ago - they took him to an "undisclosed location" for interrogation. Israel.
6) Why isn't anybody squawking about that little prick John Walker Lindh? The bastard is jailed up 4 miles from my house. I drive by him every day. He had info on the uprising that killed Mr. Spann. The should have interrogated him, given him a field trial for treason, and shot the little bastard on the spot.
Instead of trying to theorize about how "the Jews are evil" and how they are the reason for Sep. 11, and they control the media, ad nauseum - how about thinking about standing behind the only voice of reason in the Mid-East and standing up for the United States. We, the US, is to blame for Sep. 11.
Who really gives a crap about stories laid to parchment 1000-2000 years ago. There is no proof or historical accuracy in any of the documents. The fact that anyone would try and relate the equivalent of a fictional publication to current events/facts indiciates that they really don't have enough control and self-confidence to drive their own destiny.
Preemptively, I will answer the inevitable questions:
-Yes, I am Jewish;
-Yes, I am American;
-No, I do not consider myself religious, but rather spiritual - my relationship with God is my business, no one else's;
-Yes, I have been to the Mid-East and seen first hand what is going on;
-Yes, I know the story of the USS Liberty, don't bother going there.
Enjoy kids....
CF
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clusterfoxtrot said:
Everyone here is versed on these as well.
Everyone is also 225 pounds @4% bodyfat.
Stop watching the History Channel, it doesn't make you an honorary member of Mossad.
Prometheus
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PURE EXTRACT said:Dude...did you read what I just wrote?? HELLLLOOOOOO. To them this is where all of this originated from...I myself am NOT claiming this to be true. It is simply what they (Jews and Palestinians) believe. That's absurd lol
And those are completely different issues with Europe, Africa, and Mesopotamia. They were conquered. The Jews were supposedly robbed from their land.
Evidently I misunderstood your post... Obviously, THEY (Jews and Palestinians) believe they each have a valid 2000 year old claim on tribal land -- at least I hope so, otherwise they are blowing up each other's children for no reason at all...
As for conquering or stealing - don't get it. There seems to be little distinction between the claims of people who are driven off of land by a pillaging army and people that are tricked off their land by deception - they both lost the land involuntarily.
some of you are so fucking stupid...
oh the israelis are keeping the palestinians from being educated...?
thats why the schools were decent when israel also have civil rule ...now that they take care of their own education they suck ass.
Now,
The ARABS are the dirtiest, most pathetic, and have the worse inferiority complex ...in the world. get over your resentment that you look like shit and wear a fucking dishrag over your head....they are ugly motherfuckers too...for the most part. and they know that they are the lowliest people in the world and the most depraved society...in the world. more people would hate them if they were actually good at anything and weren't such ulgy motherfuckers. why do the vast majority look like dirty fuckers? and the reason jews are resented is becuase they are very succesfful and powerful for their size, not any other reason. Get over your jealosy and inferiority complex. its pathetic, when a man can't admit that he is just jealous.
they treat their people like total garbage...Muslims are the most hateful people in the world...please...stop the nonsense...if jews gave them anything the fucking arabs would ...go lets kill all the jews, they are weak...allahuakbar...whatever that fucking stupid shit they say...
I fucking rejoice, when i see the squalor that the palestians...live in...
Funny as hell when israel blows up...a car with missiles or a house. they are some tough motherfuckers, if they didnt have to worry about the world opinion they would just eliminate all the palestinians. they bring it upon themselves. they "elect" their leaders , and therefore they pay the price.
lets not forget that there is only one country in muslim world that is democratic, turkey. and it is a crappy one at that. coincidence. human rights, nope. womens rights, nope. religious freedomn, nope. political rights, nope. dignity, nope.
ARABS TREAT EACH OTHER SHITTITER THAN OTHERS.
Stop the moral equivalancy arguments. they are lame and stupid.
Arabs will always be the least integrated minority and for good reason. they will NEVER be accepted as a real American. ...thank fucking GOD...
oh the israelis are keeping the palestinians from being educated...?
thats why the schools were decent when israel also have civil rule ...now that they take care of their own education they suck ass.
Now,
The ARABS are the dirtiest, most pathetic, and have the worse inferiority complex ...in the world. get over your resentment that you look like shit and wear a fucking dishrag over your head....they are ugly motherfuckers too...for the most part. and they know that they are the lowliest people in the world and the most depraved society...in the world. more people would hate them if they were actually good at anything and weren't such ulgy motherfuckers. why do the vast majority look like dirty fuckers? and the reason jews are resented is becuase they are very succesfful and powerful for their size, not any other reason. Get over your jealosy and inferiority complex. its pathetic, when a man can't admit that he is just jealous.
they treat their people like total garbage...Muslims are the most hateful people in the world...please...stop the nonsense...if jews gave them anything the fucking arabs would ...go lets kill all the jews, they are weak...allahuakbar...whatever that fucking stupid shit they say...
I fucking rejoice, when i see the squalor that the palestians...live in...
Funny as hell when israel blows up...a car with missiles or a house. they are some tough motherfuckers, if they didnt have to worry about the world opinion they would just eliminate all the palestinians. they bring it upon themselves. they "elect" their leaders , and therefore they pay the price.
lets not forget that there is only one country in muslim world that is democratic, turkey. and it is a crappy one at that. coincidence. human rights, nope. womens rights, nope. religious freedomn, nope. political rights, nope. dignity, nope.
ARABS TREAT EACH OTHER SHITTITER THAN OTHERS.
Stop the moral equivalancy arguments. they are lame and stupid.
Arabs will always be the least integrated minority and for good reason. they will NEVER be accepted as a real American. ...thank fucking GOD...
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dballer
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Mr. Foxtrot.. I hope that book you posted back there was not directed at me totally???
remember... I am anti-Israel... that has nothing to do with your gefelta eating ass!!! remember.. we are all pretty much the same until it boils down to this. Israel is a country.. not a race.
so stop yelling at me
remember... I am anti-Israel... that has nothing to do with your gefelta eating ass!!! remember.. we are all pretty much the same until it boils down to this. Israel is a country.. not a race.
so stop yelling at me
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