Anti-Israel Thread

[curling]

Ok. but you said before - that Satan hates God, the Jews are God's chosen people, therefore Satan hates the Jews, therefore people of Satan hate the Jews.

So where does a non-chosen person stand in this - does being a lesser person (i.e., not "chosen") necessarily put one in Satan's group? Or can the lesser person go to the other side, even though God has deemed him unworthy of being "chosen"?

Sadly it does put you in Satan's hands even if a person doesn't want to be. Because the Bible says you are either in Christ's hands or you are of the world which puts you in Satan's hands. btw The post you put on the UN are so true. They are definetely setting the stage for the end times. They are the catalyst for the Anti Christ. You should read the Left Behind series if you haven't. It shows how the U.N. is pure evil.

 

[parasiticide]

All I know is the moron who decided to give the holocaust victims their own nation IN THE MIDDLE OF A LAND THAT HATES JEWS is a moron.

The UN should be disbanded just for that!!
<Sarcasm>
What a brain-trust!!
</Sarcasm>

I thought all the Holocaust victims were dead.

 

[chesty]

Well, I don't give too much credence to a history book. In fact more people have been killed in the name of god than for any other reason.

 

[parasiticide]

my dry cleaner was a holocaust victim and he is still alive.

You see dead people?

 

[Code]

I thought all the Holocaust victims were dead.

Many people who were forced to live in concentration camps are still alive today.

 

[dballer]

Naw, I am not Jewish. And what you brought up is very interesting about the Jews denying God's son. I too have wondered about that. But you have to remember the first Christians were Jews even Chirst was a Jew. Also the Bible mentiions that God blinded the Jews from the truth about Christ. Why I can only guess because I guess He was dissappointed they killed His son. But it was God's will that it all happened. Anyway what is Talmud and the Baba Meza?

I will e-mail you some of the stuff tonight. The Jews were claimed as Gods chosen people. That was before the Romans.. remember.. what it said on the cross??? King of The Jews...

Jesus was the King of the Jews... that is when The Jews of old became the Christians of new. You must not have read the whole Bible or payed attention to that part. Skip to the end and begin reading Revelations.

 

[Steroid_Virgin]

wow.. this turned into a good thread.. keep it going

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

God would not support those who deny his son.

in the Talmud there are many passages in Baba Meza (sp) that talk about killing Christians. I can produce these tommorow.. if you would like to see them. I am guessing with all of the Israel talk you are Jewish.. so I will give you the passages.. you can look them up.

TYhe first Christians were Jews. Prestige among early Christians was based on how much "jew" you could trace back in your lineage.

When St Ppaul went on his way converting Greeks (or trying to) he initially had little success. Greeks at the time were not big believers in life after death so the resurrection was a tough sell.
Paul startedt to bend the truth about Jews in order to faciltiate more converts.

Several hundred years later, Christianity was made the official religion of the Roman Empire by COnstantine in a very political move. This widened the rift between Christians and Jews.

COnstantine, along with his mother, arbitrarily picked out a lot of what are today's "holy" sites in christianity. She just assigned sites to historical events randomly.

Jews were resistant to the roman empire. Not all were kicked out of Israel, and those that were there did not care for occupation. rome began to vilify Jews (to galvanize Christian support) and pitted Chrisitan against Jew in a manner that stuill persists today.


Throughotu hsitory, Christians have used the "you killed Jesus" line: the Crusades (which involed considerable jew-butchery) the Inquistion, and the Holocaust (the SS was overwhlmingly roman Catholic)

A lot of that "denied his son" stuff is .

1. remnants of roman propaganda.
2. Rome's and St Paul's bastardization of christianity
3. A legacy of 1. and 2. above


We thank you for continuing to spread it. Jews were not energetic about their denial, just not interested. Christain leaders made it seem oterhwise, askin to what Musliml eaders do now. Same shit, different day.

I am not Jewish.

 

[MrDbol]

Jesus was labeled "King of the Jews" on the cross b/c the Jews were mocking him, it was not out of respect.

As far as why the world hates the Jews and wants them dead, the reason is very clear.

Despite all of the evil deeds they have done since the beginning of time, I will not get into that, one need not look further then one of their holy books, the Talmud.

The Talmud teaches Jews to hate non-Jews and treat them like beasts, unhuman creatures. It teaches that its ok to steal, kill, rape, and abuse non-Jews.

Here are some quotes from the Talmud concerning non-Jews:

Cheat Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a. A Jew need not to pay a cuthean (gentile) the wages owed him for work.

Lie to Non-Jews

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use subterfuges (lies) to circumvent a Gentile.

Kill, rob and steal Non-Jew

Baba Mezia 24a. If a Jew finds an object lost by a heathen (gentile) it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a cuthean (gentile)...
Sanhedrin 57a. When a Jew murders a gentile, there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a cuthean (gentile) he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the the law and God has exposed their money to Israel.
[ Remember this when you seek the advice of Jewish lawyer ]

Non-Jews are Sub-humans

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
Baba Mezia. Jews are human beings ; the other peoples of the world are not human beings, but beasts.
Abodah Zorah 22a-22b. Non-Jews prefer do sex with cows.

Hitting a Jew deserves death

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

Preparing for a crime

Moed kattan 17a. If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

Blasphemy against Jesus Christ

Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is being boiled in hot excrement.

Blasphemy against the blessed Mary
Jewish names for the blessed Mary in Talmud

A prostitute, and an adulterer.

Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament

[ Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis burned hundreds of New Testament Bibles in Occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish religion, p.21 ). ]

 

[2Thick]

Is this a religious discussion or a geopolitical one?