Anti-Est? if no Gyno Why

[caddy44]

Just a ? if a person has no Gyno problems while on Test why would he want to take Anti-Est. other than water retention I cant think of any. Am I wrong on this.

And if it is still needed does Liq. Dex work as well as pill form.

There is so many diff. ideas as to what works best its real confusing
Nolva is it a thing of the past
Adex is it the best and why
Liq-adex does it work like the tabs

I've read and asked many of my co-muscle heads and its all over the board as to what is what.

Am I the only one who is left with a headake trying to sort all of this out?

Thanks


Would like some input on this

 

[training700]

No pretty much it and also good idea go into pct without really high estrogen levels for recovery.

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[caddy44]

Thanks for the reply.

 

[Tectime]

Any time you inject tes into your body some will atomi into estrogen. All Males have alittle estrogen in their system, but you don't want to add any additional. Estrogen blockers do just that, keep est from building up, causing many sides, bloating,
Mood swings, and the sooner est blockers are started the better, you can roll into pct with little, and if done properly no est build up, also copper and zinc supps help to curb eat build up but it takes 200mg zinc and 14 mg of copper divided into 4 doses. 50mg zinc no problem to find copper in 2 mg tabs so like 8 a day. Anastrozole is the best if you can get it ( rx only). But def take some preventive est meds, along with fish oil, milk thistle, vit e.
Iive strong live long

 

[Zyglamail]

Just like test has a normal range, so does estrogen. Typical when on HRT your test is in the very high normal range and along with it your E will also be in the high normal range.

We like our T to be at the high end we would like our E to be at the low end. So even if you dont have gyno problems an anti-e is not always a bad thing.

That being said, nolva is not an ANTI-E, its actually an estrogen in and of itself but is very weak so it binds to the E receptor without really activating it. It does NOTHING to prevent the buildup of estrogen, it only combats some of the high estrogen side effects. Anastrozole actually prevents the creation of estrogen in the first place.

 

[caddy44]

Thanks for the info.

 

[XMAN.]

Just a ? if a person has no Gyno problems while on Test why would he want to take Anti-Est. other than water retention I cant think of any. Am I wrong on this.

And if it is still needed does Liq. Dex work as well as pill form.

There is so many diff. ideas as to what works best its real confusing
Nolva is it a thing of the past
Adex is it the best and why
Liq-adex does it work like the tabs

I've read and asked many of my co-muscle heads and its all over the board as to what is what.

Am I the only one who is left with a headake trying to sort all of this out?

Thanks


Would like some input on this

u may have anxiety mood swings depression from high E even if it doesn't show physically.
like Zyg said nolva is a synthetic estrogen that competes with ur body's estro on the receptor but it won't prevent any buildup but instead it may worsen things up in terms of mood.
real anti-e's are AI's (letro , adex, aromasin)
dunno about liquid adex personally never tried it but never heard a positive statement on it, many anecdotes say that it's a waste.

and another thing anti-e's lowers SHBG too and free more testosterone and render it active.

 

[Sherk]

Liquidex is fine as long as the source is good. I always use it. I'm on cycle now and use .25mg eod of Liquidex. All it is is anastrozol in a liquid form. You can get under dosed pills just like you can get under dosed liquid. It all depends on the source.