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Drunken_Weasel

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I think I need to get on some med for Anti-med... I keep being told by people to do it.. I have a few questions though...

Would it help or hinder my drive to lose weight.. would it give me the energy to just keep going? if not.. would it atleast not make it any worse....

Prices.. how much a month am I gonna be payin for this stuff.. im not rich by far. 52 cents in my bank account right now...
 
Heres what they'll do. They'll kill your sex drive, and kill your ambition. While flattening your wallet. And they'll turn you into a lard ass.
 
Paulos said:
Fuck Anti-Ds homie, what you need is some Halotestin.

Well fuck.. wtf is Halostin?

Necrophagia said:
Heres what they'll do. They'll kill your sex drive, and kill your ambition. While flattening your wallet. And they'll turn you into a lard ass.

What the fuck do I need a sex drive for? I'm a virgin, and going to stay that way.. Im already a lard ass.. and my wallet's already flat... What the fuck am I supposed to do about being so down that I sleep ~12 hours a day.. and feel like suicide the majority of every day?
 
GET LAID!



First get your ass in shape. Then get some new threads. Then bang some chicks dude.


If ya need help go take Martial Arts. It'll get your ass in shape and cure the depression.
 
mylife said:
What exactly do you have to be depressed about? Ever asked yourself that?

Yes.. I do.

I'm fat.
I'm ugly.
I'm to shy to even ask a girl out.. and the majority of girls are way to fine for me to even aproach because of the 2 above reasons.
My self esteem sucks.
I'm poor.
I'm stupid.. getting into college.. but WTF for.. I don't know what I want to do with my life.
I try to lose weight.. depression gets in the way.
I try to run, I got sick as a dog, and am still suffering from the sickness..
Friends are straying away.. all got gf's.. while I sit at home and either lift weights or chat, or listen to music...

They are all stupid reasons.. but they all get to me.. I do have reasons for being depressed.. and the whole sickness thing brought all of this out worse.. I'm in a 12 foot hole right now.. and can't jump high enough to get out of it. or to even grab the edge.
 
Necrophagia said:
GET LAID!



First get your ass in shape. Then get some new threads. Then bang some chicks dude.


If ya need help go take Martial Arts. It'll get your ass in shape and cure the depression.

Getting laid.. much easier said than done.. im shy, fat, and ugly

Get into shape? I'm halfway their.. but this depression is a bitch.. can't get much done with work, and sleeping around 12 hours a fucking day.. I set the fucking alarm clock.. but sleep through it. Martial arts costs money aswell..
 
I used to be like you. Takes work but it's changing. You can change, just takes effort. Maybe anti-D's are a temporary fix. I don't know.
 
Necrophagia said:
Maybe anti-D's are a temporary fix.

I've gone 6+ years without Anti-D's... figure I would ask about them, and maybe try and see a doctor.. but so far, It seems most people think I should stay depressed.. and try to get myself in better shape while being depressed... which doesnt make sense to me.. but whatever.
 
Necrophagia said:
Heres what they'll do. They'll kill your sex drive, and kill your ambition. While flattening your wallet. And they'll turn you into a lard ass.

I totally agree and I speak from experience.
 
Drunken_Weasel said:


Yes.. I do.

I'm fat.
I'm ugly.
I'm to shy to even ask a girl out.. and the majority of girls are way to fine for me to even aproach because of the 2 above reasons.
My self esteem sucks.
I'm poor.
I'm stupid.. getting into college.. but WTF for.. I don't know what I want to do with my life.
I try to lose weight.. depression gets in the way.
I try to run, I got sick as a dog, and am still suffering from the sickness..
Friends are straying away.. all got gf's.. while I sit at home and either lift weights or chat, or listen to music...

They are all stupid reasons.. but they all get to me.. I do have reasons for being depressed.. and the whole sickness thing brought all of this out worse.. I'm in a 12 foot hole right now.. and can't jump high enough to get out of it. or to even grab the edge.


What about your parents? Do you still live with them? Where do they stand on all this? I take it they're not financially secure enough to help you out right now?

You're fat because you allow yourself to be fat. Your self-esteem sucks because you're fat. So take care of the whole fat thing and things will look up. yeah, cardio sucks but you gotta deal with it.

Why don't you get a job besides the video store? quit that and get yourself in a job where you'll meet more people and make more $. There has to be something near you that pays at least $9 an hour.
 
DW don't listen to these jokers.I've been on prozac for the last year or so without any of my family/friends being aware,and they have all said I've changed for the better(for reasons unknown to them).I have no plan on getting off,and I'm happy I started.No sides,no hinders,just content.I know your walking in my old footsteps.You should get a doc to perscribe it for you.
 
sermon_of_mockery said:
DW don't listen to these jokers.I've been on prozac for the last year or so without any of my family/friends being aware,and they have all said I've changed for the better(for reasons unknown to them).I have no plan on getting off,and I'm happy I started.No sides,no hinders,just content.I know your walking in my old footsteps.You should get a doc to perscribe it for you.


Wouldn't that be expensive though? I believe you have to be a full time student to be covered my family health insurance and I'm guessing DW doesn't have his own.
 
Antidepressants would probably help but if they cause weight gain then they should be out of the question. I gained a fuck load of fat on paxil. But I know some who gained nothing on celexa.
 
mylife said:



What about your parents? Do you still live with them? Where do they stand on all this? I take it they're not financially secure enough to help you out right now?

You're fat because you allow yourself to be fat. Your self-esteem sucks because you're fat. So take care of the whole fat thing and things will look up. yeah, cardio sucks but you gotta deal with it.

Why don't you get a job besides the video store? quit that and get yourself in a job where you'll meet more people and make more $. There has to be something near you that pays at least $9 an hour.

I live with my mom.. I pay all my bills though.. She probobly would laugh if I told her I wanted to get some anti-deps.. she doesnt pay attention.. she is totally unaware of the fact that I have been in depression since the 7th grade... coming home with self inflicted cuts and teachers complaining that all I did was sit in the corner with my head down every day didn't show her anything but that I was lazy.. I guess...

I have been fat since I was about 7 or so.. I am working on the fat thing.. I have come from 280ish to 220 or so.. (last time I weighed in).. and from a 42 waist.. to a 36... (6'2)... but this depressions getting in the way when I need to clamp down harder.. because the slacked.. semi trying isn't going to shed anymore like it did before.

I work at the video store for the easyness.. I had quit a 8.84 an hour job, because it was constant overtime, constant lifting, under apreciation, and under pay for what I was doing (stocking diary at a huge grocery market, that was very understaffed in the grocery/dairy department). and while they begged me to stay, they did not offer a raise, or any other incentive.. I went back to the vid store so that I could train more regularly, which I had bought freeweights, bench, ect.. with the money from the dairy job. I am also working on enlisting in school, and finding a full time job would in the future, get in the way of school.. beyond that.. their arent jobs around here that pay 9+... its all 5.15-7ish..
 
mylife said:



Wouldn't that be expensive though? I believe you have to be a full time student to be covered my family health insurance and I'm guessing DW doesn't have his own.
Yeah it could be $$,luckily I have insurance.
DW you need this shit man,make it a priority,seriouslly.
 
sermon_of_mockery said:
DW don't listen to these jokers.I've been on prozac for the last year or so without any of my family/friends being aware,and they have all said I've changed for the better(for reasons unknown to them).I have no plan on getting off,and I'm happy I started.No sides,no hinders,just content.I know your walking in my old footsteps.You should get a doc to perscribe it for you.

What kind of money are we talking here?... I have health insurance thru my moms state job.. since im still 18.. how much monthly/bi-monthly.. however you go about it.
 
Drunken_Weasel said:


What kind of money are we talking here?... I have health insurance thru my moms state job.. since im still 18.. how much monthly/bi-monthly.. however you go about it.
depends on the insurance,but I pay like 10 bucks for a big ass bottle,100qty I think.
 
honeslty join the military or forever live in a world of shit.
 
sermon_of_mockery said:
depends on the insurance,but I pay like 10 bucks for a big ass bottle,100qty I think.

Thanks sermon.. I'll see what I need to do to go to the doctor.. and then ill see what I need to do to go about geting anti-deps..
 
HighIntensity said:
honeslty join the military or forever live in a world of shit.
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HighIntensity said:
honeslty join the military or forever live in a world of shit.

Right now would be exactly the WRONG time to join the military... If war weren't possible.. I would, it would help me mentally, physically, and emotionaly.
 
They say freak
When your singled out
The red...
It filters through

So lay down
The threat is real
When his sight
Goes red again

Seeing red again

This change
He won't contain
Slip away
To clear your mind
When asked
What made it show?
The truth
He can't send to most

Seeing red again

They say freak
When your singled out
The red....
It filters through
 
Holy fucking christ DW.

Get off your fucking computer for a change and get outside and smell fresh air, smell the flowers, smell fucking anything.

If you spent half the energy it takes to be negative and actually used it to think positively and get off your ass and stop feeling sorry for yourself, you'd be skipping and whistling all over town.

If you told me you had terminal cancer or lepracy i'd feel for you.

But sorry if i don't feel badly for people who think poorly of themselves. Life is what you make of it. It's your FUCKING choice buddy. That's right, you have a choice in this matter. Right now, the choices you're making are fucking shithouse.

Turn it around, you know it's that easy.
 
sermon_of_mockery said:

No Sermon. There are millions in this world who don't have choices, kids born as heroin addicts, kids born with AIDS, people living in Afghanistan, political prisoners, land mine victims, i could go on and fucking on.
 
Drunken_Weasel said:


Right now would be exactly the WRONG time to join the military... If war weren't possible.. I would, it would help me mentally, physically, and emotionaly.

wait so you think about killing yourself, but are scared to die for your country?
 
Drunken_Weasel said:


I'm fat.
I'm ugly.
I'm to shy to even ask a girl out.. and the majority of girls are way to fine for me to even aproach because of the 2 above reasons.
My self esteem sucks.
I'm poor.
I'm stupid.. getting into college.. but WTF for.. I don't know what I want to do with my life.
I try to lose weight.. depression gets in the way.
I try to run, I got sick as a dog, and am still suffering from the sickness..
Friends are straying away.. all got gf's.. while I sit at home and either lift weights or chat, or listen to music...




Bro I am to be serious for once, there was a time I felt exactly the same way.

After moving to California from Arizona I had a very hard time making friends at the High School I was at, I did not tough it out and dropped out because I was lonely among other things. I was so self conscious and depressed that I had trouble even talking to people, be it male or female. I sat at home doing nothing but playing video games and eating junk food for 8 months. I got up to 300 pounds, about 50% bodyfat, on a 5'8" frame. My Bench press was 95 pounds. I was beyond lonely, my mother was the only family I have and I did not even get to see her except for a couple hours a day because she worked constantly.

I was suicidal and I hated absolutely everything about myself. The only exercise my fatass got was walking to Jack in the Box, which was even hard being such an out of shape piece of shit.
I could not even picture myself with a girl because what girl would want a fat piece of shit like me, Right? I decided one night after eating an entire Pizza by myself, having not showered for a few days, and not having any social contact for a good few months I would do two things.

The first thing I was going to do was make an honest, whole hearted attempt to get my fucking life in order and do something about the disgusting state I let myself slip into. If that did not work, I was going to buy a pistol, put it in my mouth, and kill myself, because I was not going to spend the rest of my life laying in bed at night wishing I was something else.


The next day I got up at 8 a.m. , I had not gotten up before 2 p.m. in a good six months. I took my fatass out for a walk. I think I made it around the block once before I was exhausted. I knew nothing of nutrition, so reading a food Label I saw that 2000 Calories was a normal diet. I figured if I wanted to lose weight I should keep it at 1000 calories. My determination allowed me to eat 1000 Calories for a good six months, and I had seen on TV somewhere that carbs were what made you fat, so I decided not to eat them. How I had the willpower to do that I have no idea, because I sure as hell could not do it now. Unbeknown to me I slipped in and out of Ketosis constantly, which made me feel like shit, but I sucked it up and kept at it. I slowly dropped down weight weekly, Eventually getting down to 270. I re-enrolled in High School, I had a few extra credits from my dropout so I decided to take two weight training classes. One-Third of my day was spent training, my grades were atrocious but my self image was improving daily. It didn't take long and before I knew it I was down to 205.

For the first time in my teenage life I was actually happy. I wasn't fat. I was a normal, happy kid. I wasn't disgusted with myself for once, I was pleased and proud of what I had accomplished. Everything turned around from that single moment where I decided that I was tired of the way things were going and I was going to change it, no matter what happened or what obstacles lay in my way. No bullshit, No whining, No Excuses. I decided things would change for me and there would be no stopping it, period.



Now I know this sounds like a fucking afterschool special or something, but I wanted you to understand that I am not just some person giving you advice, I have been where you have been, perhaps worse. I am telling you that the only way to turn things around is to man the fuck up and decide nothing will stop you. Bullshit pills are not going to do anything, I don't give a fuck what a doctor says. I could have taken all of the fucking pills in the world and it wouldn't have changed shit until I had decided that in my heart I would do no matter what it takes.


Four years later I am a happy, well adjusted, confident person, and I have a bright future. I shudder even thinking where I would be right now if I had not turned things around in that single moment. Decide what you want bro, you can wake up tomorrow and remain the way you are, or you can go to sleep tonight knowing that this is the last night of your old mindset. You can be a motherfucking unstoppable machine, nothing can stand in your way, you just have to realize it. It's already inside you, and the only person who's going to activate it is you, not your family or friends, and especially not some stupid fucking pill.


There's a quote that I like, sums shit up well homie.

"In the depths of winter I finally learned there was in me an invincible summer."
-Albert Camus



You are an unstoppable motherfucker that can achieve whatever he wants, not a quivering little bitch. Act like it.
 
Paulos said:




Bro I am to be serious for once, there was a time I felt exactly the same way.

After moving to California from Arizona I had a very hard time making friends at the High School I was at, I did not tough it out and dropped out because I was lonely among other things. I was so self conscious and depressed that I had trouble even talking to people, be it male or female. I sat at home doing nothing but playing video games and eating junk food for 8 months. I got up to 300 pounds, about 50% bodyfat, on a 5'8" frame. My Bench press was 95 pounds. I was beyond lonely, my mother was the only family I have and I did not even get to see her except for a couple hours a day because she worked constantly.

I was suicidal and I hated absolutely everything about myself. The only exercise my fatass got was walking to Jack in the Box, which was even hard being such an out of shape piece of shit.
I could not even picture myself with a girl because what girl would want a fat piece of shit like me, Right? I decided one night after eating an entire Pizza by myself, having not showered for a few days, and not having any social contact for a good few months I would do two things.

The first thing I was going to do was make an honest, whole hearted attempt to get my fucking life in order and do something about the disgusting state I let myself slip into. If that did not work, I was going to buy a pistol, put it in my mouth, and kill myself, because I was not going to spend the rest of my life laying in bed at night wishing I was something else.


The next day I got up at 8 a.m. , I had not gotten up before 2 p.m. in a good six months. I took my fatass out for a walk. I think I made it around the block once before I was exhausted. I knew nothing of nutrition, so reading a food Label I saw that 2000 Calories was a normal diet. I figured if I wanted to lose weight I should keep it at 1000 calories. My determination allowed me to eat 1000 Calories for a good six months, and I had seen on TV somewhere that carbs were what made you fat, so I decided not to eat them. How I had the willpower to do that I have no idea, because I sure as hell could not do it now. Unbeknown to me I slipped in and out of Ketosis constantly, which made me feel like shit, but I sucked it up and kept at it. I slowly dropped down weight weekly, Eventually getting down to 270. I re-enrolled in High School, I had a few extra credits from my dropout so I decided to take two weight training classes. One-Third of my day was spent training, my grades were atrocious but my self image was improving daily. It didn't take long and before I knew it I was down to 205.

For the first time in my teenage life I was actually happy. I wasn't fat. I was a normal, happy kid. I wasn't disgusted with myself for once, I was pleased and proud of what I had accomplished. Everything turned around from that single moment where I decided that I was tired of the way things were going and I was going to change it, no matter what happened or what obstacles lay in my way. No bullshit, No whining, No Excuses. I decided things would change for me and there would be no stopping it, period.



Now I know this sounds like a fucking afterschool special or something, but I wanted you to understand that I am not just some person giving you advice, I have been where you have been, perhaps worse. I am telling you that the only way to turn things around is to man the fuck up and decide nothing will stop you. Bullshit pills are not going to do anything, I don't give a fuck what a doctor says. I could have taken all of the fucking pills in the world and it wouldn't have changed shit until I had decided that in my heart I would do no matter what it takes.


Four years later I am a happy, well adjusted, confident person, and I have a bright future. I shudder even thinking where I would be right now if I had not turned things around in that single moment. Decide what you want bro, you can wake up tomorrow and remain the way you are, or you can go to sleep tonight knowing that this is the last night of your old mindset. You can be a motherfucking unstoppable machine, nothing can stand in your way, you just have to realize it. It's already inside you, and the only person who's going to activate it is you, not your family or friends, and especially not some stupid fucking pill.


There's a quote that I like, sums shit up well homie.

"In the depths of winter I finally learned there was in me an invincible summer."
-Albert Camus



You are an unstoppable motherfucker that can achieve whatever he wants, not a quivering little bitch. Act like it.


tear





















nah that shit was deap., damn fonz would be proud.
 
Vinylgroover - I know its my choice.. I know its all in my head.. thing is.. why the fuck is it so hard for my stupid mind to like myself? I try and I try.. and then I come back deeper in depression, looking at all the lies I told myself.

HI - dying for my country? I have no problem.. but you see is.. I would like to kill myself If I stayed this way.. but If I were in the armed services.. I would get a better attitude, better physical shape, and better emotional basis.. so why would I want to die after acheiving what I didn't have before? You must have a little bit of a clue of my reasoning here.

Paulos - Bro... seriously, that is something I never knew of you, and I now respect you in a whole diffrent way. I try .. I try .. hopefully my depression will lighten up as soon as this flu, or cold.. or whatever I have thats making me feel like more shit goes away so I can continue the drive that is in me.. I want to continue on.. I want to.. but when I feel sick to my stomach for the large part of the day, and feel like crap, coughing all day.. its hard to run.. atleast its keeping my eating down.. I know I can do it.. the thing is my mind is so weird.. it will be fine at one time.. and then dip back down into depression.. almost like bi-polar.. but im not gonna go that far, I knwo I can fix it... with time.. with time..

in regards to your taking weight lifting at your HS.. im actually looking into getting into some college lifting courses... I'm not sure if they offer 8 week classes.. but hopefully I can atleast get into a summer class...
 
Like my main man Yoda says, Do or do not, there is no try.

If you have a hard time running then walk. I lost all my weight walking because I could not run for shit.

I am not trying to be a dick at all, but time is not going to help. There is today only, because tomorrow hasn't started yet. You do what you need to do today, reguardless of the difficulty.

If you try to rely on time you are going to wake up and be 40 years old, still fat, unhappy, still disgusted with life, wondering what the fuck happened.

Another thing, When I did this I had none of the resources Elitefitness offers, you do. Any question you have there is someone on this website that has the correct answer.


Like I said bro, Man the fuck up or you're already defeated. Quit the bitch act and do something about it. If not I am going to setup a paypal account for EF to buy me a plane ticket to go wipe the floor with you.


P.S. No more whiney threads about how you're fat, ugly, life sucks, etc. Wallowing in your own self disgust isn't going to do anything positive. You can do it, just have faith in yourself.
 
Paulos said:
Like my main man Yoda says, Do or do not, there is no try.

If you have a hard time running then walk. I lost all my weight walking because I could not run for shit.

I am not trying to be a dick at all, but time is not going to help. There is today only, because tomorrow hasn't started yet. You do what you need to do today, reguardless of the difficulty.

If you try to rely on time you are going to wake up and be 40 years old, still fat, unhappy, still disgusted with life, wondering what the fuck happened.

Another thing, When I did this I had none of the resources Elitefitness offers, you do. Any question you have there is someone on this website that has the correct answer.


Like I said bro, Man the fuck up or you're already defeated. Quit the bitch act and do something about it. If not I am going to setup a paypal account for EF to buy me a plane ticket to go wipe the floor with you.


P.S. No more whiney threads about how you're fat, ugly, life sucks, etc. Wallowing in your own self disgust isn't going to do anything positive. You can do it, just have faith in yourself.

I can run just fine.. the thing is whatever I have right now.. (flue, or cold.. not sure).. If I go out there.. im gonna puke within 3-4 mins..

This thread wasn't even supposed to be a whine thread.. It was a honest question about Anti-Depressants.. because I had a few friends tell me they have known me for a long time, and said I should probobly get on some.
 
one more post for tonight...


I would like to thank both Sermon, and Paulos for their input..., aswell as everyone else (except for HI, the bastard :p).
 
DW, that's the whole point. You don't need that shit.

The ability or desire to think positively is far more powerful than any anti-depressant.

We were all ugly. When each of us came out of our respective mothers, we all pretty much were covered in cum and blood and looked alike.

Well, same shit now, just some us are bigger, skinnier, red hair, brown hair whatever.

Turn it around now my man.....you have alot of good things ahead of you.
 
It seems to me as you base your self worth on the approval of others.

Bad thing to do,work on yourself for you,not anybody else,sure it is nice to have a gf and money but believe me they arent needed,I have been without money for so long I dont need it anymore,I get by with just the basics my parents survive.

and about college sit down and think about what you may want to do,write out the pros and cons of each and if one has more pro's then con's jump in. but dont do something you can love doing,you must be able to live for it
 
The Canadian Oak said:
and about college sit down and think about what you may want to do,write out the pros and cons of each and if one has more pro's then con's jump in. but dont do something you can love doing,you must be able to live for it

the thing is... I have no idea what I'm good at, what I would like to do the rest of my life.. ect.. NO IDEA.. I used to want to get into game programming, or digital graphics.. but thats when I was a total fatass computer nerd...
 
Paulos said:




Bro I am to be serious for once, there was a time I felt exactly the same way.

After moving to California from Arizona I had a very hard time making friends at the High School I was at, I did not tough it out and dropped out because I was lonely among other things. I was so self conscious and depressed that I had trouble even talking to people, be it male or female. I sat at home doing nothing but playing video games and eating junk food for 8 months. I got up to 300 pounds, about 50% bodyfat, on a 5'8" frame. My Bench press was 95 pounds. I was beyond lonely, my mother was the only family I have and I did not even get to see her except for a couple hours a day because she worked constantly.

I was suicidal and I hated absolutely everything about myself. The only exercise my fatass got was walking to Jack in the Box, which was even hard being such an out of shape piece of shit.
I could not even picture myself with a girl because what girl would want a fat piece of shit like me, Right? I decided one night after eating an entire Pizza by myself, having not showered for a few days, and not having any social contact for a good few months I would do two things.

The first thing I was going to do was make an honest, whole hearted attempt to get my fucking life in order and do something about the disgusting state I let myself slip into. If that did not work, I was going to buy a pistol, put it in my mouth, and kill myself, because I was not going to spend the rest of my life laying in bed at night wishing I was something else.


The next day I got up at 8 a.m. , I had not gotten up before 2 p.m. in a good six months. I took my fatass out for a walk. I think I made it around the block once before I was exhausted. I knew nothing of nutrition, so reading a food Label I saw that 2000 Calories was a normal diet. I figured if I wanted to lose weight I should keep it at 1000 calories. My determination allowed me to eat 1000 Calories for a good six months, and I had seen on TV somewhere that carbs were what made you fat, so I decided not to eat them. How I had the willpower to do that I have no idea, because I sure as hell could not do it now. Unbeknown to me I slipped in and out of Ketosis constantly, which made me feel like shit, but I sucked it up and kept at it. I slowly dropped down weight weekly, Eventually getting down to 270. I re-enrolled in High School, I had a few extra credits from my dropout so I decided to take two weight training classes. One-Third of my day was spent training, my grades were atrocious but my self image was improving daily. It didn't take long and before I knew it I was down to 205.

For the first time in my teenage life I was actually happy. I wasn't fat. I was a normal, happy kid. I wasn't disgusted with myself for once, I was pleased and proud of what I had accomplished. Everything turned around from that single moment where I decided that I was tired of the way things were going and I was going to change it, no matter what happened or what obstacles lay in my way. No bullshit, No whining, No Excuses. I decided things would change for me and there would be no stopping it, period.



Now I know this sounds like a fucking afterschool special or something, but I wanted you to understand that I am not just some person giving you advice, I have been where you have been, perhaps worse. I am telling you that the only way to turn things around is to man the fuck up and decide nothing will stop you. Bullshit pills are not going to do anything, I don't give a fuck what a doctor says. I could have taken all of the fucking pills in the world and it wouldn't have changed shit until I had decided that in my heart I would do no matter what it takes.


Four years later I am a happy, well adjusted, confident person, and I have a bright future. I shudder even thinking where I would be right now if I had not turned things around in that single moment. Decide what you want bro, you can wake up tomorrow and remain the way you are, or you can go to sleep tonight knowing that this is the last night of your old mindset. You can be a motherfucking unstoppable machine, nothing can stand in your way, you just have to realize it. It's already inside you, and the only person who's going to activate it is you, not your family or friends, and especially not some stupid fucking pill.


There's a quote that I like, sums shit up well homie.

"In the depths of winter I finally learned there was in me an invincible summer."
-Albert Camus



You are an unstoppable motherfucker that can achieve whatever he wants, not a quivering little bitch. Act like it.

Assumming this story is real(i think it is...but you guys have fooled me many times...lol ). I'm going to out this on the A board and in the Best of Elitre Fitness.

Should be very inspiring to a lot of people.

Fonz
 
You will probably gain weight on anti-d's. Plus prozac (the cheapest anti-d) costs about $1 a pill for a generic pill. Perhaps you can join a discount pharmacy plan, they are about $8 a month.

I know you already exercise, but exercise is supposed to be just as effective for depression as anti-d's (look up the phrase 'exercise and depression' on google, there are too many studies for me to post them).

http://www.coloradohealthsite.org/CHNReports/exercise_depression.html

Even if you can't run, at least try to walk 30 minutes a day.
 
If you are looking for natural anti-depressants, I've found that banging my girlfriend, having my helmet sucked or getting paid has made me feel much better.
 
You said three things that scare me: sleeping 12 hrs, cutting yourself, and thoughts of suicide.
You need to take this seriously, and see a doctor.
It's entirely possible you might be able to get thru this on your own with exercise alone.
But it's also entirely possible you have a chemical imbalance that needs attention.
It's also possible the meds could help temporarily until you get things together and could then stop.

Personally I don't see it as some personal flaw/failure if you seek medical help from the doctor.
I just don't understand how "toughing it out" on your own is somehow heroic or manly.
Your statements sound like a friend of mine, totally depressed until a doctor put him on Lithium, and his life totally turned around for the better.
Idiots on a chat board (myself included) aren't qualified to give medical advice.
Get professional help.
 
vinylgroover said:


No Sermon. There are millions in this world who don't have choices, kids born as heroin addicts, kids born with AIDS, people living in Afghanistan, political prisoners, land mine victims, i could go on and fucking on.
we're talking about depression,which is a chemical imbalance.You think people have a choice over that?:rolleyes:
 
sermon_of_mockery said:
we're talking about depression,which is a chemical imbalance.You think people have a choice over that?:rolleyes:

I'm talking about DW Sermon. He hasn't got clinical depression, just a poor opinion of himself and low self esteem......big difference.

I don't deny that there are many who have clinical depression, but there are just as many who use it as an excuse for low self confidence and self esteem. Those are things that can be turned around WITHOUT anti-depressants.
 
DW, do yourself a favor and get on some anti's. They can and will work wonders for you. Six years is a long time to hang in there. They won't make you fat. They will make you happy and energetic and excited about life.
 
Yeah, actually fuck my advice DW.

Pump yourself full of happiness in a pill. Anti-depressants will help you pull women, turn you into a ripped mofo, give you all that confidence you've been lacking, get you that kick ass job you're looking for.

When people ask you how you're feeling you can say 'just wait a minute, i'll pop some prozac and let you know'.

:rolleyes:
 
Fonz that story is real bro, I have the stretchies to prove it.

Not like the subway diet. :D


As far as it being "Manly" to tough it out or whatever, I don't see it that way. You have to be able to realize that you are strong enough to accomplish your goals IMO, it has to come from within.
 
vinylgroover said:
Yeah, actually fuck my advice DW.

exactly.Why would he take advice from someone who does NOT understand?Would you?
Fact is,you obviouslly have no problems with depression(good for you,and don't think for one second it's because your "strong willed").
We learn from experience,not blind faith(unless your christian):D
And I have have experience in this matter.Done.
 
No offense but as someone who has also been there I have to side with Vinylgroover. Just because you are reliant on pills to be happy does not mean everyone else with "Depression" is too.
 
Paulos said:
No offense but as someone who has also been there I have to side with Vinylgroover. Just because you are reliant on pills to be happy does not mean everyone else with "Depression" is too.
which is the exact reason I told him to see a doctor.
 
You're missing my point though bro. I do not take anything away from Clinical Depression because it is currently tearing my mom to shreads before my eyes. I understand it's a real thing.

That being said I do not think Drunken Weasel is Clinically Depressed. I think he has poor self image and low self esteem, just like I did. I used to self inflict wounds also because I just could not deal with my self loating.

Pills are not the answer for someone like him...He has nothing to be depressed over. He's got a roof over his head and food at home. The problems he has he has constructed for himself, and it is up to him to take them down. I think putting him on medication would be be a mistake right now, it would simply mask the problem, not address it.

If some time goes by and he can look himself in the mirror and in his heart of hearts tell himself that he gave 110% to getting his shit together and still failed, then it is time to see a Doctor.
 
vinylgroover said:
Yeah, actually fuck my advice DW.

Pump yourself full of happiness in a pill. Anti-depressants will help you pull women, turn you into a ripped mofo, give you all that confidence you've been lacking, get you that kick ass job you're looking for.

When people ask you how you're feeling you can say 'just wait a minute, i'll pop some prozac and let you know'.

:rolleyes:


If anti-d's help D_W, then i say go for it. But they do carry risks like weight gain. Whatever works is what he should do, no matter how 'weak' or 'improper' it appears to others.

I do agree that D_W's problems seem partially due to a low self image & traumatic past. Have you looked into REBT (rational emotive behavior therapy) or CBT (cognitive behavior therapy) for self image enhancement DW? They can be really useful if you try hard enough at them.
 
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well bro look at all your interests,and pick the one you love to do most and make a career out of it,even if the pay is just enough to live on you will be happy. you have made great changes in your life and body,dont stop now,keep busting your ass,take a course to be a pt,you like to lift so share what you know

if you need anything at all just drop me a pm and I will help as much as I can
 
Bro there is a fine line between what is low self esteem and what is depression. I know. Been there. A real chemical depression CANNOT be beaten with any amount of counseling or reinforcement via positive experiences. Why? Because no positive experience will help because the depression will cause you to twist and contort the experience into something negative. Point is, this is not you. Believe me. When the depression lifts via the right meds(and it will take some time and trial on different ones)
but when you find it and it works, you will finally find yourself and your confidence will grow rapidly. There are so many clinics that deal with this today. Talk with one, im sure they can work something with the finances. NOT all antidepressants are the same. IMO the SSRI have too many cons-wt gain, lethargy, sex problems. The tricyclic antid's taken at bedtime dont have the sides you mention being afraid of for me. PM me anytime. Id like to help.

Marky
 
sermon_of_mockery said:
how can tell him how he's feeling,are you a doc?Are YOU on meds?

YES. Have tried many before being on one for just such experiences as Spunky is relating. I am on a med now that for 18 years has allowed me to be
depression and anxiety free. No counseling in this world helped
and actually the fkn shrinks plug thought into your head that dont
fkn exist just to make things worse. When the meds work, all
fears gradually dissappear as you find yourself, and get on with your life. Man, how many people waste a good portion of their time in life proudly denying treatment believing they are stronger BS! I made a decision to find the cause and improve my life before i turned 60 with the same anxietys and depression. I wanted to get better and didnt let an attitude get in the way.

Do I know exactly what he's feeling? What a stupid remark.
Do I know your sisters bra size? Well maybe I do. The whole point of this board is to make comments regarding anyones posts on this board. Its his decision not yours whether it can be hepful or not.
N'uf said
 
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