Anti aromatise

[johny_45]

During a test Dbol cycle is it worthwhile throwing in some anti aromtise?

or best to wait till after cycle?

 

[johny_45]

During a test Dianabol - methandrostenolone - cycle is it worthwhile throwing in some anti aromtise?

or best to wait till after cycle?

Just dont want bitch tits at the end

 

[johny_45]

Just dont want bitch tits at the end

bitch tits i mean

 

[erix23]

Aifm

 

[njmuscleguy]

not just "worthwhile", but a must in most cases... you'll bloat up like a balloon from the estrogen build-up. A-dex or aromasin, though I'd personally go with aromasin.

 

[needtogetaas]

Aifm gave people burns and rashes

gives people a rash...thanks for telling us bro.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Add it. 1/2 mg of dexx eod.

Don't mess with AIFM. For a good natty supp run some UNLEASHED and Dermacrine to boost T back up and keep estro in balance after you finish the cycle.

 

[needtogetaas]

Add it. 1/2 mg of dexx eod.

Don't mess with AIFM. For a good natty supp run some UNLEASHED and Dermacrine to boost T back up and keep estro in balance after you finish the cycle.

nice follow up....

 

[stressman13]

Add it. 1/2 mg of dexx eod.

Don't mess with AIFM. For a good natty supp run some UNLEASHED and Dermacrine to boost T back up and keep estro in balance after you finish the cycle.

I have an always have had great luck with AIFM as an anti-E. I would run it throughout the cycle, not just during PCT. You can develop sides during and after the cycle.

 

[stressman13]

gives people a rash...thanks for telling us bro.

i think an early batch gave one person a rash. I rotate application sites and know a bunch of others who use it and never got a single irritation, or anything even close. I also use Femera - letrozole - when needed. But I think it serves a purpose. Enough with the sponsor wars bro. If you havent used it then dont get into it. Theres people on here who say dermacrine sucks and others who love it. Im going to give it a try because some guys on here, who seem like they tell it as it is, liked it. Same went for AIFM. Was what it was. Its gots its place as an anti-e.

 

[needtogetaas]

i think an early batch gave one person a rash. I rotate application sites and know a bunch of others who use it and never got a single irritation, or anything even close. I also use Femera - letrozole - when needed. But I think it serves a purpose. Enough with the sponsor wars bro. If you havent used it then dont get into it. Theres people on here who say dermacrine sucks and others who love it. Im going to give it a try because some guys on here, who seem like they tell it as it is, liked it. Same went for AIFM. Was what it was. Its gots its place as an anti-e.

bro I have used aifm.I have used almost all sponsors products with in the last 2 years....just so you know though aifm gave more then a few people a rash and yes it even gave people 3rd degree burns.if you like I can do the foot work for you and pull up the "one thread they forgot to delete"that talks about it.also I had my own spin of board of ef for a long time and got many threads about it there.....I am not "in a sponsor war bro"because aifm "is not a sponsor"of ef so theres no one left to fight with.I am just stating a fact that happened and a fact that I can very much prove...when I make a claim like this you better beleive I am always ready to be called on it.

 

[Nelson Montana]

i think an early batch gave one person a rash. I rotate application sites and know a bunch of others who use it and never got a single irritation, or anything even close. I also use Femera - letrozole - when needed. But I think it serves a purpose. Enough with the sponsor wars bro. If you havent used it then dont get into it. Theres people on here who say dermacrine sucks and others who love it. Im going to give it a try because some guys on here, who seem like they tell it as it is, liked it. Same went for AIFM. Was what it was. Its gots its place as an anti-e.

True. It's very hard to know what works and what works for everybody. There are some theories why aifm has been partially "succesful" ranging from a possible diuretic effect to using other anti e's along with it to maybe not needing anything at all!

I'm all for low dose anti-e drugs mixed with a natty anti e. The problem is, aifm isn't really natural. It's a chemical compound, and if I'm going to take that, I'll take a real pharaceutical drug. If I'm going to take a supp, I want it to be a natural extract or herb or nutrient that's effective. Why use some untested chemical that who knows who mixed with who knows where?

 

[njmuscleguy]

Nelson, in your opinion, what OTC product is a good alternative to Adex for someone who's on HRT? Basically, someone who might need light anti-estrogen protection

 

[stressman13]

bro I have used aifm.I have used almost all sponsors products with in the last 2 years....just so you know though aifm gave more then a few people a rash and yes it even gave people 3rd degree burns.if you like I can do the foot work for you and pull up the "one thread they forgot to delete"that talks about it.also I had my own spin of board of ef for a long time and got many threads about it there.....I am not "in a sponsor war bro"because aifm "is not a sponsor"of ef so theres no one left to fight with.I am just stating a fact that happened and a fact that I can very much prove...when I make a claim like this you better beleive I am always ready to be called on it.

Fine. Allergies aside, as I dont have this problem, it helps with my gyno issues. I am not a chemist or anything so i do not know about anything in it or how it works< just from personal use and hearing others experiences> i have used letro with succcess although its too strong to tinker around with the doses> what did you think of aifm < aside from the allergy issues?

 

[johny_45]

Fine. Allergies aside, as I dont have this problem, it helps with my gynecomastia issues. I am not a chemist or anything so i do not know about anything in it or how it works< just from personal use and hearing others experiences> i have used Femera - letrozole - with succcess although its too strong to tinker around with the doses> what did you think of aifm < aside from the allergy issues?

ok so you guys are suggesting i hit nolva or clom durign cycle now?

so how much a day?

cheers

 

[jcdc71]

Nelson, in your opinion, what OTC product is a good alternative to Arimidex - anastrozole - for someone who's on HRT? Basically, someone who might need light anti-estrogen protection

bump

 

[needtogetaas]

Fine. Allergies aside, as I dont have this problem, it helps with my gynecomastia issues. I am not a chemist or anything so i do not know about anything in it or how it works< just from personal use and hearing others experiences> i have used Femera - letrozole - with succcess although its too strong to tinker around with the doses> what did you think of aifm < aside from the allergy issues?

I wont lie I thought it was ok bro....I used it on cycle as a light ai and now I use dermacrin sustain on cycle as a light ai and I have to say I like sustain better.not because I think it dos a better job as a ai but because of the other benefits that also come with dermacrin sutain.powerful LH & FSH release,improve erectile function and libido,enhanced fertility and sperm production,and thereis also the sense of well being that comes with it.its also all natural

 

[stressman13]

I wont lie I thought it was ok bro....I used it on cycle as a light aromatase inhibitor and now I use dermacrin sustain on cycle as a light ai and I have to say I like sustain better.not because I think it dos a better job as a ai but because of the other benefits that also come with dermacrin sutain.powerful lh - leutenizing hormone - & FSH - follicle stimulating hormone - release,improve erectile function and libido,enhanced fertility and sperm production,and thereis also the sense of well being that comes with it.its also all natural

Thanks. As Ive already mentioned Im going to give Derma a try coming off a 17 weeker with some pretty good doses. Would I be better off using it along with clomid? Or drop the clomid altogether?? I used HCG for the first 10 weeks once a wk and will throw in some more right after last shot.

 

[johny_45]

Thanks. As Ive already mentioned Im going to give Derma a try coming off a 17 weeker with some pretty good doses. Would I be better off using it along with clomid? Or drop the clomid altogether?? I used HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - for the first 10 weeks once a wk and will throw in some more right after last shot.

so how much do i take a day of nolva or clom?

 

[bigmodean]

i think an early batch gave one person a rash. I rotate application sites and know a bunch of others who use it and never got a single irritation, or anything even close. I also use Femera - letrozole - when needed. But I think it serves a purpose. Enough with the sponsor wars bro. If you havent used it then dont get into it. Theres people on here who say dermacrine sucks and others who love it. Im going to give it a try because some guys on here, who seem like they tell it as it is, liked it. Same went for AIFM. Was what it was. Its gots its place as an anti-e.

Agreed,AIFM is a good product.Though I am open to trying Sustain,used AIFM on last test e. cycle,did its job,no problems to report during or after cycle,will continue to use.

 

[johny_45]

Agreed,AIFM is a good product.Though I am open to trying Sustain,used AIFM on last testosterone enanthate. cycle,did its job,no problems to report during or after cycle,will continue to use.

not really getting an answer lol

anyone know or have any idea how much nolva or clomid to take on a dian, test cycle?

and is Gaspari Novedex XT ok to use? or just stick to nolv/clo?

 

[stressman13]

not really getting an answer lol

anyone know or have any idea how much Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - or clomid to take on a dian, test cycle?

and is Gaspari Novedex XT ok to use? or just stick to nolv/clo?

you can throw in nolva for gyno and excess E but its not gonna do much for bloat. You would be better off with arimidex or aromasin. Or aifm even, I use little nolva with some aifm (i have gyno issues). 10mg a day should be good preventatively.

 

[motorhumper]

This is stritcly my opinion but If your going to use gear, the real deal, dont waste your money on stuff life AFIM or whatever the new trend of "natural" supplements are. Thats BS. You are taking serious shit(steroids) so use serious anti e's like aromasin, armidex, Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - etc. I think its funny how most of the guys around here justify steroids yet when it comes to anti'es they suggest some shit from a store that they are sponsered by or that is the big vendor at the time. If you are going to use the real shit then use the real shit all the way. My 2 cents.....and yes keep the change.

 

[needtogetaas]

Thanks. As Ive already mentioned Im going to give Derma a try coming off a 17 weeker with some pretty good doses. Would I be better off using it along with clomid? Or drop the clomid altogether?? I used HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - for the first 10 weeks once a wk and will throw in some more right after last shot.

ya should have kept up the hcg all the way threw...start it back up again now till the end....2 weeks after last shot start dermacrin sustain for 4 weeks 5 pumps ed..some people like to stack it with 25mg clomid ed but you dont have to.......

 

[njmuscleguy]

not really getting an answer lol

anyone know or have any idea how much Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - or clomid to take on a dian, test cycle?

and is Gaspari Novedex XT ok to use? or just stick to nolv/clo?

use an A-I such as arimidex or aromasin during cycle.... save the no-lva or cl-omid for P C T...