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I'm ALMOST 190, 5'8'', 19 years old. I have around 16 percent bf? I dont really know im guessing. My question is, I;ve never done a cycle... Once I do a couple bulkers and a cutter, wont I be big enough to win some shows? Enter into the IFBB. I'll be heavier than some of the past Mr.Olympias!!! It's jsut I hear all the time "its almost impossible" well for damn sakes I think it's possible and I will.

Won't that be awesome, your own IFBB member on Elite? Just comment on w/e.
 
You could be 5'10" or 6'0" by the time your 21, but if you do gear now, thats it, you will stay at 5'8"

Wait 5 years before you do gear
 
Bro get in shape first. A couple cycles and you wont even place in a local show. 16% BF? That's just fat. especially at your age. You should be able to stay sub 10% year around in your teens.
 
if your to get down to 4%bf you need to lose 25lbs of fat then you will only be 165lbs in shape for a show.

i doubt a few cycles will get you from 165lbs 4% bf up to 225lbs to even compete at a state level . your gonna have to put on 60lbs of muscle.

a few cycles my ass . more like 5 years prob never comming off roids.

belive me bro you feel big at the gym at 190 and prob could blow up to 225lb with some fat and muscle .building 60lbs of lean muscle to put you at 225lbs rock hard 4% bf .Your gonna have to inject alot of anabolics.


its taken dexture jackson 10 years to get from 185lbs in 1995 to 215lbs in 2005
thats only 30lbs of muscle gained or 3lbs a year and im sure dexture is juiced to the max.
 
... Once I do a couple bulkers and a cutter, wont I be big enough to win some shows? Enter into the IFBB. I'll be heavier than some of the past Mr.Olympias!!! It's jsut I hear all the time "its almost impossible" well for damn sakes I think it's possible and I will.

^^^

At least you have a good attitude about it being possible but the whole idea about a couple of cycles is way off. I know alot of people who don't know about steroids and think it easy to turn into a monster once you take them. I use to hear in highschool that people gained around 70 pounds a cycle, this is just not reality. We would all be running for Mr.O .
 
Funny, I make a comment on a thread just like this one, about how stupid it was and that it was a waste of space, because it was obvious it was fake plus the guy has been on here for a while. He gets mad, but my point is that we already have stupid posts like this to laugh at, we don't need guys making up shit.
 
Ok honestly I might even be 14%, I just didn't want to undershoot it, heck is i was 12% I wouldnt be suprised. Anyways, I cant WAIT to show you guys before and after pics after my first cycle. I'm telling you guys, tonight i was almost 190lbs. In 14 months I've gained 55lbs. If I don;t have superb genetics, what the f are superb genetics?
 
shit man, i think you could win likely a state show and maybe a national for sure right now

cough cough

you think guys winning shows just do a few bulkers and then a cutter huh, thats all you think there is to it?
 
drrman said:
shit man, i think you could win likely a state show and maybe a national for sure right now

cough cough

you think guys winning shows just do a few bulkers and then a cutter huh, thats all you think there is to it?
Not really, I practice posing quite abit.
 
Is this serious??? Ive read it a few times to see if I missed anything...

Bro, all the power to you.. But with an attitude like that I am afraid you will fall short and give up.. The road to competition is a VERY long and difficult trek.. More than I want to go through.. Phsically and emotionally..
 
I'm willing to do whatever it takes. Ill eat pounds of meat a day. down the oatmeal til i puke, inject w/e, lift w/e. It's my passion, my dream and my goal.
 
just dont start gear for a few years bro, u have a chance of growing a few inches the next few years and that will help out with show etc.

the way you are looking at all of this is pretty retarded
 
Well thanks for that. How many people actually grow after they are 19?
 
Just because you see your body stop growing in the sense of getting taller doesnt' mean your testosterone production has stopped. If you are implying you want to go straight into cycling then you are completely missing the point.
 
BeautifulBiceps said:
Well thanks for that. How many people actually grow after they are 19?

r u serious?
i grew at least 3 inches from 17-20
i know people that hit a major growth spurt in college
 
I stopped growing at 18. go for it man! but its fuckin HARD work. And you will get better gains with a workout partner cause you can always lift heavy every workout
 
I guess I deleted my last thread.. Anyways...

When I was 18-21 I thought I was done growing.. I thought the same way you did.. Even with AAS I wasnt done growing... I thought I was thick at 18, 19 hell even 21.. I wasn't.. It wasn't till I hit 24-25 that I started to loose that college boy body and really thicken out.. I put on a good 10 pounds between 23-25 naturally.. Your body changes as you get older.. You are still a kid.. Look at the pro bodybuilders you look up too.. They are all mid 30's and up..... Rome wasn't built in a day.. have patience bro.. Honestly, you arent done growing...
 
does anyone recommend going to the doctors to see if the bone has infact fused?
 
BeautifulBiceps said:
does anyone recommend going to the doctors to see if the bone has infact fused?

ya go to the doc and ask him if it is ok to start taking AS, see what he says. lol
get the fucking point, patience is your friend
 
NickyE3 said:
ya go to the doc and ask him if it is ok to start taking AS, see what he says. lol
get the fucking point, patience is your friend
Ok, so what exact date should I start taking, I'm serious.
 
JuicedAthletics said:
I guess I deleted my last thread.. Anyways...

When I was 18-21 I thought I was done growing.. I thought the same way you did.. Even with AAS I wasnt done growing... I thought I was thick at 18, 19 hell even 21.. I wasn't.. It wasn't till I hit 24-25 that I started to loose that college boy body and really thicken out.. I put on a good 10 pounds between 23-25 naturally.. Your body changes as you get older.. You are still a kid.. Look at the pro bodybuilders you look up too.. They are all mid 30's and up..... Rome wasn't built in a day.. have patience bro.. Honestly, you arent done growing...

That is SO, so true... the way the look of your muscle changes as you get older is astonishing... Im only 26, but i can see HUGE differences in the appearance of my muscle from the time i started lifting seriously (circa 17 y/o) to now

I have also noticed that I can tell the effects of different diet changes a lot more now than I ever could before

As for teh growth issue... I didnt grow a half fucking inch after 15 y/o
 
BeautifulBiceps said:
Ok honestly I might even be 14%, I just didn't want to undershoot it, heck is i was 12% I wouldnt be suprised. Anyways, I cant WAIT to show you guys before and after pics after my first cycle. I'm telling you guys, tonight i was almost 190lbs. In 14 months I've gained 55lbs. If I don;t have superb genetics, what the f are superb genetics?
So this shows you"ve been serious for 14 mounth natural, give it another
five years natural to biuld a good base and then think about it ,
good luck bro and learn what to eat to keep your bf down cause
at 19 you should be lower .
Brad.
 
hesnobradpitt said:
So this shows you"ve been serious for 14 mounth natural, give it another
five years natural to biuld a good base and then think about it ,
good luck bro and learn what to eat to keep your bf down cause
at 19 you should be lower .
Brad.
Ya i eat alright I just need to do some cardio.
Honestly If I wait that long, I cant imagine how large ill be by the time im 30. I may sound cocky, but I will be in the Mr.Olympia Before I'm 30, I cannot fathom how I wont be. On that note thanks for the possitive feedback.
 
BeautifulBiceps said:
Ok, so what exact date should I start taking, I'm serious.

give yourself time to develop your training and food, learn your body
you are still developing - whether it be your bones or your brain
im 21 and im not going to touch anything until im 23 or so
 
NickyE3 said:
give yourself time to develop your training and food, learn your body
you are still developing - whether it be your bones or your brain
im 21 and im not going to touch anything until im 23 or so
Thanks bro, I appreciate it.
 
BeautifulBiceps said:
Ya i eat alright I just need to do some cardio.
Honestly If I wait that long, I cant imagine how large ill be by the time im 30. I may sound cocky, but I will be in the Mr.Olympia Before I'm 30, I cannot fathom how I wont be. On that note thanks for the possitive feedback.


Can you fathom paying for all the AAS to get there? How do you plan to do it?
 
nisser512 said:
Can you fathom paying for all the AAS to get there? How do you plan to do it?
Im actually unaware of the amount pro bbers take. And the cost of them. Anyone want to fill me in?
 
At 19 bro you should be as tall as you're going to be. However, your shoulder girdle/clavicles may still be growing, up to about 20+/- years. You're not getting taller at your age, just possibly wider...
 
ok you want to hear it so i'll say it. if you want to be in the olyimpa before age 30 your gonna have to start a cycle right now drop the computer and start injecting. Will you stunt your growth ofcoarse.Doing cycles at a young age will help you build gains that you will carry with you the rest of your life . Steroids help build bone mass with mineral absorbtion but the down side is stunted growth.
Your gonna have to start selling roids to pay for your own supply. Get a personal certification at a weekend work shop. Then live in the gym every morning for 1 hour working out cardio then 8 hours training your steroid user clients that you make the pay roll from then train after they all go home. Be sure to have a cooler big enough to fit 6 meals for you to eat at work every day for the next 7 years.

also set aside money for side effects surgery.Your gonna have to get your gyno removed (you will eventually get gyno almost every pro does)You will have to prob end up gettinga few abcess cut out of your ass and shoulders.
Like you hair ? Oh well kiss it good bye by age 35 its will all be gone . Look at shawn ray, ronnie coleman,dexture jackson,flex wheeler,kevin leverone and just about every other body builder over 35 the hair is pretty much gone with a few excpetions.
Dont forget to have 150,000$ extra in the bank for a liver transplant,kidney transplant maybe ever a new lung who the fucks knows what 3 grams of steroids will do a day to your body.

Your also peak should be around age 30 so in 2017 expect to weight around 300lbs ripped and shredded to ever place in the top 5.

Then when its all over you get to slap your face on a protien bottle and tour around sighning pics at shows back when you were roided to the max.

here is a example of a basic pro cycle.
2 grams of test a week .
1 grams of deca a week
800mg of eq a week
ran for the next 10 years.

then before a show add in another 5-6 drugs like winnie,primo,tren,anavar and gh to get leaner.
thats only if you want the coleman look or cutler look.

well good luck see ya in 10 yrs. come back and post your results at the olyimpia
 
chazk said:
well good luck see ya in 10 yrs. come back and post your results at the olyimpia

:FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol:

Well said. I thought this was another bad joke at the beginning, but now it seems that it is not. Amazing. To be honest, if you want to be a pro you need to start juicing. Is that smart, NO. Will you ever become a pro bodybuilder, probably NOT. If you become a pro, will you be rich, VERY UNLIKELY. Are you stupid, do I really have to say YES (but I think you already know this).

Funny thing how everyone keeps saying wait to you stop growing, maybe thats why every bodybuilder is at about 5'9 or shorter. Coleman being the exception at 5'11. Most pro's are not much more than 5'7, except for about 5 that I can think of right now. Coleman, Gunter, Ruhl, Freeman and Quincy Taylor (I'm sure there are more). I wonder if they are shorter because they started their steroid usage before they had maxed their height out. Kind of funny, but unfortunately we will never know. Its almost to a person's advantage to be about 5'9 to bodybuild. Shorter stature makes it easier for them to gain quicker.
 
Fuck it, im jsut going to stop working out now then, I didnt really want to in the first place. Peeeace.
 
mlong23 said:
:FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol:

Well said. I thought this was another bad joke at the beginning, but now it seems that it is not. Amazing. To be honest, if you want to be a pro you need to start juicing. Is that smart, NO. Will you ever become a pro bodybuilder, probably NOT. If you become a pro, will you be rich, VERY UNLIKELY. Are you stupid, do I really have to say YES (but I think you already know this).

Funny thing how everyone keeps saying wait to you stop growing, maybe thats why every bodybuilder is at about 5'9 or shorter. Coleman being the exception at 5'11. Most pro's are not much more than 5'7, except for about 5 that I can think of right now. Coleman, Gunter, Ruhl, Freeman and Quincy Taylor (I'm sure there are more). I wonder if they are shorter because they started their steroid usage before they had maxed their height out. Kind of funny, but unfortunately we will never know. Its almost to a person's advantage to be about 5'9 to bodybuild. Shorter stature makes it easier for them to gain quicker.
Don't come in my thread and call me stupid. Just wait.a few years.
 
i know a lot of guys with sick genetics but just dont care about competeing...then you got people who work real hard but just dont have the frame
 
if you have he balls, post your pic, ill give you my honest oppinion weather or not I think you have what it takes to compete.
 
Hey buddy, my biggest advice to you is to get your diet in check. 16% body fat isn't really what your looking to be at in a competition. Hit the protein hard, eat your vegetables, and lift hard. :)
 
BadReligion6699 said:
Hey buddy, my biggest advice to you is to get your diet in check. 16% body fat isn't really what your looking to be at in a competition. Hit the protein hard, eat your vegetables, and lift hard. :)
I'm bulking, I don't think ill be competing for over a year.
 
i could see you being mr olympia in a few years.....

but youde better drop what you are doing and hit the creatine and andro-poppers hard.
 
NickyE3 said:
from the looks of it, you dont seem too intelligent or rational.
you may want to focus on your academics.
And why is that? From a few simple posts on my goals?
 
BeautifulBiceps said:
And why is that? From a few simple posts on my goals?

not ur goals bro
being mr. o is a high goal but it is your personal goal, nothing wrong with that.
your approach and view of this goal is basically out of impulse
make some small goals and see if you achieve those first, patience is a must
 
NickyE3 said:
not ur goals bro
being mr. o is a high goal but it is your personal goal, nothing wrong with that.
your approach and view of this goal is basically out of impulse
make some small goals and see if you achieve those first, patience is a must
I have plenty of goals. Every day to push a bit more in the gym, every month to gain some weight, learn more about anabolics and bodybuilding. I have plenty long and short term goals.
 
Do you think all the Olympia competitors had full support when they said they wanted to enter the Olympia?
 
BeautifulBiceps said:
Do you think all the Olympia competitors had full support when they said they wanted to enter the Olympia?

what i think is... thank the lord i never acted like u r acting on the net or otherwise... when i was 19

it isnt that u dont have great genetics or that u cant do it... its the fact that you come off like a fucking dickwad, that is why people are responding to u they way they are... slow ur roll, hang around and learn and maybe people will be a bit more supportive.
 
get456 said:
what i think is... thank the lord i never acted like u r acting on the net or otherwise... when i was 19

it isnt that u dont have great genetics or that u cant do it... its the fact that you come off like a fucking dickwad, that is why people are responding to u they way they are... slow ur roll, hang around and learn and maybe people will be a bit more supportive.
I agree. I have a VERY humourous personality, where on message boards, I'm pretty sure it's interpreted differently. I'll just have to do my best.
 
where do u get ur inspiration from buddy? every1 has dreams and goals, but i think u should just take it 1 cycle at a time and see how u fair out after 10 years. mr O is probably a long way away from all the pros on this board.

good to see ur pleased with ur progress tho. keep up the good work!
 
big.nad said:
where do u get ur inspiration from buddy? every1 has dreams and goals, but i think u should just take it 1 cycle at a time and see how u fair out after 10 years. mr O is probably a long way away from all the pros on this board.

good to see ur pleased with ur progress tho. keep up the good work!
Thanks a lot! I get my inspiration from so many places. I mean, my parents and friends support it, which might be a hard area for some people. I was always small and skinny my whole life, and knowing how to change my body and add muscle and get strong/big, it's so amazing in itself. Going to the gym and outlifting yourself time and time again. I love it and don't think I can ever stop, I'm an addict.
 
Seriously I posted pics, at least acknowledge I put some up, someone.
 
Dude, i have the feeling you are going to make it man, seriously though. you are the future mr O, i just know it!!
 
Yeah actually I do. I have been around and have known a few guys in my day that had good genetics, but definately not good enough to be pro. Some of these guys weren't even very motivated yet are always shredded, they eat like shit and maybey work out every so often.
 
boyer said:
Yeah actually I do. I have been around and have known a few guys in my day that had good genetics, but definately not good enough to be pro. Some of these guys weren't even very motivated yet are always shredded, they eat like shit and maybey work out every so often.
Ok well, will you all be happy in 5 years when I cant win a show to go pro? Wil that make you happy.
 
what are you looking for in this thread? is it approval? it is motivation to hit the weights because people are giving you lip??? im lost....

youlook good in your pics.. for a 19 year old kid you have a good starting point.. but it is what it is.. a starting point... id guess a good 10 years of serious training, diet and anabolics to even compete in state shows....
 
JuicedAthletics said:
what are you looking for in this thread? is it approval? it is motivation to hit the weights because people are giving you lip??? im lost....

youlook good in your pics.. for a 19 year old kid you have a good starting point.. but it is what it is.. a starting point... id guess a good 10 years of serious training, diet and anabolics to even compete in state shows....
I'm just sick of hearing its impossible, I just want someone to say "ya if done right its possible". Well I pretty much made this thread just so you guys can get to know me on a personal basis before I make it big ;). But on a serious note, I would like for you to get to know me, and remember my progress throughout these years, I think it will be really cool.
 
OMFG Your a cocky little prick who thinks he's all that! You may have hi hopes but you shoudnt come on this board and say something so stupid like "I will win the O by the age of 30" all that does is prove you have no idea or your 1 cent short of a dollar (maybe both)

BTW even if you do turn pro, I wouldnt want to know you, I wouldnt shake your hand at a show and I probably wouldnt even piss on you if you were on fire.
 
rg78 said:
OMFG Your a cocky little prick who thinks he's all that! You may have hi hopes but you shoudnt come on this board and say something so stupid like "I will win the O by the age of 30" all that does is prove you have no idea or your 1 cent short of a dollar (maybe both)

BTW even if you do turn pro, I wouldnt want to know you, I wouldnt shake your hand at a show and I probably wouldnt even piss on you if you were on fire.
Hey there, roid rage is taking you over.
Ps. Believe me, I wouldn't want to know YOU. Mouthy. :theshadow
 
hey I think its great you have goals. But i dont want you to work out with roids and 3-4 years look at the cover of as muscle mag and give up becuase you still dont look anything like a pro that has been lifting for 10 years with lots of cycles under his belt.

Your better off just taking it one step at a time, mro the long term goal . But for closer goals maybe a local novice show next spring. Then take it from their you might decide to keep going or step on stage say hey its not for you.

I would just say get some kind of higher education .Maybe a tech degree to make money and live on if the bodybuilding thing does not work out or even after your retired from bodybuilding.

I rember hoisting 100lbs of plastic wieghts over my head at age 17 and thinking I wanted to be jack lalanne becuase I saw him do 1000 push ups on tv and swim across a channel with a boat of people tied to his waiste he pulled them for a few miles.Its good to see amazing people do amazing things.Even if its not the mr.o just give it all you have got anyways and be the best you can.

I was kinda tough on you at first .But you got heart kid and might be able to take it pretty far . :ryanh: just keep on reading and researching your in the right place alot of good guys are here to help you out. If your gonna want the drugs at a better price then your gonna have to hit the more " underground" bodybuilding boards where the action really takes place.

But its all about time .Time is all you have so dont worry about that.
 
chazk said:
hey I think its great you have goals. But i dont want you to work out with roids and 3-4 years look at the cover of as muscle mag and give up becuase you still dont look anything like a pro that has been lifting for 10 years with lots of cycles under his belt.

Your better off just taking it one step at a time, mro the long term goal . But for closer goals maybe a local novice show next spring. Then take it from their you might decide to keep going or step on stage say hey its not for you.

I would just say get some kind of higher education .Maybe a tech degree to make money and live on if the bodybuilding thing does not work out or even after your retired from bodybuilding.

I rember hoisting 100lbs of plastic wieghts over my head at age 17 and thinking I wanted to be jack lalanne becuase I saw him do 1000 push ups on tv and swim across a channel with a boat of people tied to his waiste he pulled them for a few miles.Its good to see amazing people do amazing things.Even if its not the mr.o just give it all you have got anyways and be the best you can.

I was kinda tough on you at first .But you got heart kid and might be able to take it pretty far . :ryanh: just keep on reading and researching your in the right place alot of good guys are here to help you out. If your gonna want the drugs at a better price then your gonna have to hit the more " underground" bodybuilding boards where the action really takes place.

But its all about time .Time is all you have so dont worry about that.
Thanks bro. I appreciate it. I love to learn, I spend most of my days reading about bodybuilding. Thanks again.
 
might as well go get surgery for the gland that is responsible for gyno and have it taken out since u want to be like the pros and will eventually be taking grams upon grams of gear
 
NickyE3 said:
might as well go get surgery for the gland that is responsible for gyno and have it taken out since u want to be like the pros and will eventually be taking grams upon grams of gear
I love how you're so encouraging!
 
BeautifulBiceps said:
I'm just sick of hearing its impossible, I just want someone to say "ya if done right its possible". Well I pretty much made this thread just so you guys can get to know me on a personal basis before I make it big ;). But on a serious note, I would like for you to get to know me, and remember my progress throughout these years, I think it will be really cool.

ok... yeah if it's done right its possible... but you didnt ask that to begin w/ did you? you wanted everyone to tell you that you have incredible genes and potential and that after a cycle or two you'd be the next great bodybuilder on the cover of every muscle mag. and that shit just simply isnt the truth. so maybe you should be a little more humble and ask for advice rather than get on here and make an ass of yourself. you'll find things will be easier this way and maybe... JUST MAYBE... not everyone will hate you at the end of the day. just my two cents.
 
lol... if there was an acronym for "laughing out loud so hard that i stubbed my toe on the computer desk and kept laughing" i'd use it:

lolshtismtotcdakl!!!!!!!
 
The Rage said:
ok... yeah if it's done right its possible... but you didnt ask that to begin w/ did you? you wanted everyone to tell you that you have incredible genes and potential and that after a cycle or two you'd be the next great bodybuilder on the cover of every muscle mag. and that shit just simply isnt the truth. so maybe you should be a little more humble and ask for advice rather than get on here and make an ass of yourself. you'll find things will be easier this way and maybe... JUST MAYBE... not everyone will hate you at the end of the day. just my two cents.


4 pages, looks like a contender for thread of the week.... :evil:
 
Ok, I've been thinking about this a lot. And I think I'm going to cycle test E, before I'm 20. 500mg for 10 weeks. You guys have done a lot to tell me wait for a few more years. But in all honesty, How big can one get naturally? Can anyone show me someone truely natural, at around my high whos pretty big?
Ps. Im not going to grow another inch.
 
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