Another cycle critique!

[Fat_Sumo]

Tell me what you think!

Goal: cutting
Weight: 200lbs
Previous history: have tried a few different things but never ran anything properly or included proper PCT, I never knew about these boards and did not know what I know now.

Weeks 1-14 - 100mg prop/EOD
1-12 - 500mg EQ/week
7-14 - 50mg winstol tabs/ED
All oribt products!

HCG will be run throughout cycle at 500 IU's ever 5 days.
PCT will be HCG and nolvadex. I know the nolva might get a rise out of some but I don't liket the sides with clomid and feel that nolvadex works just as well. Will also run clen in PCT.

Let me know if there is a better way to run the previous compounds.

 

[Fat_Sumo]

Shame less bump!

 

[VictorBR]

Hey , it is very similar to miny , check out my thread I just created it .

I am not sure but I think you don't need that much HCG ....I could be wrong ..

Anyway , I will not use clomid or nolva . I will run FEMARA because it is suposed to a much better anti-e . Or you can use arimidex which is also very good I heard .

I could be wrong AGAIN but I also don't plan on using clomid after cycle . I might use femara and HCG after cycle but that is it

BTW - my cycle will be EQ , winny , test prop and HGH ....


later

Victor

 

[Fat_Sumo]

Hey , it is very similar to miny , check out my thread I just created it .

I am not sure but I think you don't need that much HCG ....I could be wrong ..

Anyway , I will not use clomid or nolva . I will run FEMARA because it is suposed to a much better anti-e . Or you can use arimidex which is also very good I heard .

I could be wrong AGAIN but I also don't plan on using clomid after cycle . I might use femara and HCG after cycle but that is it

BTW - my cycle will be EQ , winny , test prop and HGH ....


later

Victor

I don't think it is wise to run arimidex or femara for PCT. Stick with clomid or nolvadex!

 

[Mavy]

Eh bro you are right about PCT. Use your aromatase inhibitors during the cycle, not for PCT. HCG for PCT and a SERM like Nolva, then continue with nolva or Clomid for another 2-3 wks. See my post on Victor's post for some more info, very similar to yours/

 

[VictorBR]

yep , I am not an expert at Pct ...I still gotta learn a lot about this thing ..

but I do know that I don't like clomid .

For PCT , since you guys are saying that femara is not good ...I will run HCG and nolva. You think this is ok Mavy ? Could it be HCG and arimidex also ...what would be better ?


Victor

 

[Mavy]

Unless your cycle has been particularily long or potent, I would run the HCG PCT for about 2-3 wks, and continue with the anti-es after for 2-3 wks. Run the anti-es with the HCG to combat the suppressive effects of estrogen as your T levels start to go back up.

Try it like this.

Wk1
HCG: 3500IU
Nolva: 20mgs/day

Wk2
HCG: 3500IU
Nolva: 20mgs/day

Wk3
HCG: 2500IU
Nolva: 20mgs/day

Wk4-6
Continue with Nolva or Clomid

I also like to throw in herbal PCT drugs as well to hit every angle, and creatine to help keep muscle gains and strength.

 

[Fat_Sumo]

How about the cycle critique mavy?

Thanks

 

[Mavy]

Looks decent bro ... Cant see anything wrong with it. Personally if I was running test that long, I would use a long acting ester just for less frequent injections. But if you dont mind prop is the way to go.

 

[Fat_Sumo]

Unless your cycle has been particularily long or potent, I would run the HCG PCT for about 2-3 wks, and continue with the anti-es after for 2-3 wks. Run the anti-es with the HCG to combat the suppressive effects of estrogen as your T levels start to go back up.

Try it like this.

Wk1
HCG: 3500IU
Nolva: 20mgs/day

Wk2
HCG: 3500IU
Nolva: 20mgs/day

Wk3
HCG: 2500IU
Nolva: 20mgs/day

Wk4-6
Continue with Nolva or Clomid

I also like to throw in herbal PCT drugs as well to hit every angle, and creatine to help keep muscle gains and strength.

Are the HCG doses run/day for each week or is that only 1 shot/week?
What herbs do you suggest mavy?

Thanks for your time!

 

[magman1]

fatsumo...how fat are you? not a flame, but IMO winny is almost pointless if you are not already at a pretty low bf

 

[Fat_Sumo]

fatsumo...how fat are you? not a flame, but IMO winny is almost pointless if you are not already at a pretty low bf

Hey, bro thanks for the input! I totally agree about the winny being good only at a low body fat%! That is why I am adding it in at the end of the cycle as by then my bodyfat will be very low from dieting. I am currently at about 11-12%!

Cheers