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I think the purpose of this thread is quite obvious. I've been asked to take a class in anger management by a cop who works out at my gym...lol

I kinda hit someone...hard and since I'm cool with the cop, he asked me to take a class in anger management before I get my self in real trouble....

Anyone has experiences with those?

I did a class when I was still back home because I always used to be angry and used to get into fights all the time...

Now being "juiced" doesnt really help, I suppose....that's why I've been off the juice for 7 months....can I take anything to calm down without effecting my workout intensity?

I do take high blood pressure pills...
 
Not a cheap shot Alcatraz, but I think this would be an EXCELLENT idea based on how you are so defensive on chat.

Take your friends' advice.
 
A lot of people have told me that I need to take anger management classes...

...I tell them that the classes would just piss me off though.
 
The doctor that I was seeing back home was also a sports doctor.
He said that a lot of my anger is because I have high blood pressure and it effects my "nerves?" I don't neccessarily know what that means. My blood pressure ranges anywhere between 80-90 low and 155-170 high.

You think this could really be a reason?

I have a pretty good life and no problems, but it really does seem that I get pissed off a lot....and I mean so pissed off to the point where I have to break something or get a "rush" to be calm again.... :worried:

BIKINIMOM said:
Not a cheap shot Alcatraz, but I think this would be an EXCELLENT idea based on how you are so defensive on chat.

Take your friends' advice.
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lol....they used to piss me off too...

I wanted to hit the doctor also...more than once...

canadianhitman said:
A lot of people have told me that I need to take anger management classes...

...I tell them that the classes would just piss me off though.
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Dooood, that's not good. This is going to sound worse than meditation but breathing. Learn how to "breathe". Ok, flame on
 
NEO1 said:
Dooood, that's not good. This is going to sound worse than meditation but breathing. Learn how to "breathe". Ok, flame on
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umm....not going to flame....I would try to onceive every little bit at this point

Explain.
 
Meditation and breathing techniques are a great way to calm down, but before I suggest anything else, when was the last time you had a full blood work up or full physcial?!
There are many times rages are caused by a phycial ailment.
Do you rage at the smallest things?
 
Usually I rage at issues that are important to me, but it doesn't require a lot to get me pissed....

I really don't want to get any blood work done at this point because I just started dbols...only going for 4 weeks

The problem persists even when I'm off, so I know it's not from the juice...

blueta2 said:
Meditation and breathing techniques are a great way to calm down, but before I suggest anything else, when was the last time you had a full blood work up or full physcial?!
There are many times rages are caused by a phycial ailment.
Do you rage at the smallest things?
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i used to be that way growing up on the streets of new york but then again i think it was a defense mechanism to survive being jumped. get them before they get you. but after i left new york when i was 17 i realized i cant be like that anymore and my stress went way down and life got better. you truly need to figure a way to cage the beast because one day you will find yourself in jail and then you have a lot more problems than some dude pissing you off.
 
How long should this be done?
How many times a week?
How well has it worked for you, and did you do it because you get pissed off too?

juiceddreadlocks said:
sorry, meditate. I guess that would actually be a form of mediating your situation, but I meant meditate.

http://www.insightmeditationcenter.org/imc-medinstruct.html vipassana is the method someone turned me onto. I'm not sure I've even ever done it right, but it's relaxed me.
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well before you waste your time in anger managment, you need to get a full work up
Tere are some illnesses than effect cognative functions which can lead to rage/anger
 
will do them after my next cycle...

prb is, i've been like this all my life....

blueta2 said:
well before you waste your time in anger managment, you need to get a full work up
Tere are some illnesses than effect cognative functions which can lead to rage/anger
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Anger is very much about control, or the loss of control. You see the world a certain way and if someone doesn't conform to your "thinking" you react in anger thinking anger can control the issues.

Juice is right, you need to learn how to meditate. Meditation should/could be done a few times a day for 5-10 mins.
There are many techniques to redirecting anger.
I'm one to internalize my anger which hurts me, but you're the opposite to where you need to lash out.
Anger and rage though are quite different. If you're raging, like I said, you need to get a full work up.
Rage is not a normal physh reaction to stress, anger is.
 
please explain the difference between anger and rage.
I'm not sure which one describes what I have.

blueta2 said:
Anger is very much about control, or the loss of control. You see the world a certain way and if someone doesn't conform to your "thinking" you react in anger thinking anger can control the issues.

Juice is right, you need to learn how to meditate. Meditation should/could be done a few times a day for 5-10 mins.
There are many techniques to redirecting anger.
I'm one to internalize my anger which hurts me, but you're the opposite to where you need to lash out.
Anger and rage though are quite different. If you're raging, like I said, you need to get a full work up.
Rage is not a normal physh reaction to stress, anger is.
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Ok, well the only way that I can explain it (ya know without googling it) is to relate it to smoking. If you have ever smoked you know it is "relaxing". It has nothing to do the nicotine or tobacco as they are stimulants. It has to do with the breathing. The inhaling, taking a large breath, through your mouth, holding it for a second or two and then releasing it, again through your mouth. Seriously has helped me a lot and made me feel like an idiot for not trying it sooner, something so easy.
 
I use to have the same problem, in a non-violent way.
Therapy greatly helped me.

Now I save all my rage for Elite Fitness C&C
 
the_alcatraz said:
I thought ghettos take the connotation of being black ghettos by default?
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not sek-c!!
 
You can't go wrong with AM class, but since you've always been like this, it maty be worth looking into some therapy sessions. Going to a therapist may help you out a lot in figuring why you're like this and how to control it. If you know why, then you'll know what to do to alleviate it. Talking to a therapist will help you feel a heck of a lot better too.

The information you get from the therapist, may help you throughout the rest of your life. It will stay with yiou forever. Just 'winging it' will not really keep you out of trouble if this has been your history.

The good thing is that you've acknowledged there is a problem. good luck.
 
I know this is going to sound bad, but isn't going to a therapist looked at as a last resort? i.e. when you've reached rock bottom.

gonelifting said:
You can't go wrong with AM class, but since you've always been like this, it maty be worth looking into some therapy sessions. Going to a therapist may help you out a lot in figuring why you're like this and how to control it. If you know why, then you'll know what to do to alleviate it. Talking to a therapist will help you feel a heck of a lot better too.

The information you get from the therapist, may help you throughout the rest of your life. It will stay with yiou forever. Just 'winging it' will not really keep you out of trouble if this has been your history.

The good thing is that you've acknowledged there is a problem. good luck.
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the_alcatraz said:
I know this is going to sound bad, but isn't going to a therapist looked at as a last resort? i.e. when you've reached rock bottom.
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Sure, but why reach rock bottom? Therapists help you understand what is happening to you that you may have missed because you just don't have the training. Something is happening to you. What is it? Do you know? Neither do I, but maybe a therpaist will know after speaking to you. Is it worth trying to find out? It's up to you. Life's too short, get answers.
 
the_alcatraz said:
I know this is going to sound bad, but isn't going to a therapist looked at as a last resort? i.e. when you've reached rock bottom.
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In all honesty, my wife and I go see a therapist maybe 2 or 3 times a year even though nothing wrong whatsoever.

Sometimes the best defense is a good offense. Nothing wrong with being proactive.
 
75th said:
In all honesty, my wife and I go see a therapist maybe 2 or 3 times a year even though nothing wrong whatsoever.

Sometimes the best defense is a good offense. Nothing wrong with being proactive.
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a wife can make you crazy, I understand that.
 
MightyMouse69 said:
a wife can make you crazy, I understand that.
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We go as a couple, dick.

But yes, youre correct.
 
Do therapists gurantee that no one will know. I mean, it would suck if people at work knew I'm seeing a therapist because I have anger issues. Don't you think?

75th said:
In all honesty, my wife and I go see a therapist maybe 2 or 3 times a year even though nothing wrong whatsoever.

Sometimes the best defense is a good offense. Nothing wrong with being proactive.
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the_alcatraz said:
Do therapists gurantee that no one will know. I mean, it would suck if people at work knew I'm seeing a therapist because I have anger issues. Don't you think?
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Confidential bro. The only way other people would know is if you told them.
 
the_alcatraz said:
I think the purpose of this thread is quite obvious. I've been asked to take a class in anger management by a cop who works out at my gym...lol

I kinda hit someone...hard and since I'm cool with the cop, he asked me to take a class in anger management before I get my self in real trouble....

Anyone has experiences with those?

I did a class when I was still back home because I always used to be angry and used to get into fights all the time...

Now being "juiced" doesnt really help, I suppose....that's why I've been off the juice for 7 months....can I take anything to calm down without effecting my workout intensity?

I do take high blood pressure pills...
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This is good bro. If you hit someone out of anger, then you need to seriously do this. I know it is against your beliefs, but have you though about smoking a little ganja once in a while. Just a little bit of the good stuff can really help to mellow you out. It beats wellbutrin or paxil. Good luck broly.
 
SouthernLord said:
This is good bro. If you hit someone out of anger, then you need to seriously do this. I know it is against your beliefs, but have you though about smoking a little ganja once in a while. Just a little bit of the good stuff can really help to mellow you out. It beats wellbutrin or paxil. Good luck broly.
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Try eating some pork too, you fag.

A few pieces of nice crispy bacon goes a long way to calm my nerves.
 
Anger= getting pissed, swearing a bit, being a little self destructive, pissing someone off etc
Rage = hitting walls, hitting peole, throwing things, losing reality for a minute or two etc.

Therapy= great idea. It's confidential and even if it wasn't, who cares. There is nothing shameful about needing guidance. Everyone is faulted.

smoking weed= VERY BAD IDEA! Messing with your brain chemicals can put you into a worse rage when your high is over.

You will also mello with age. You're still a young dude with lots to figure out about life.
LB, I'm sure can relate. Hopefully he can give you some more advice
 
Do you know how much a session with a good therapist would usually go for? I mean is there a range, cause I dnt wanna be robbed!

75th said:
Confidential bro. The only way other people would know is if you told them.
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Oh I def. have rage....two days ago I pulled out a chunk of my hair with my hand....my scalp still hurts :(

blueta2 said:
Anger= getting pissed, swearing a bit, being a little self destructive, pissing someone off etc
Rage = hitting walls, hitting peole, throwing things, losing reality for a minute or two etc.

Therapy= great idea. It's confidential and even if it wasn't, who cares. There is nothing shameful about needing guidance. Everyone is faulted.

smoking weed= VERY BAD IDEA! Messing with your brain chemicals can put you into a worse rage when your high is over.

You will also mello with age. You're still a young dude with lots to figure out about life.
LB, I'm sure can relate. Hopefully he can give you some more advice
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the_alcatraz said:
offcourse she does....

I can be an asshol when I'm pissed....I dnt mean too though :(
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You just have to think before you speak that is all. I admit when I was moody during that time of the month it caused lots of arguments with hubby and me. It got to the point where I was real upset with myself for getting so worked up over small stuff. Hormones can really screw with you. He and I have NO issues anymore at all. He knows when I am on that time of the month so he doesn't pick as much. I don't get grouchy either if I feel myself getting that way I just relax and tell myself to calm down. Life is too short to fight over bs!

If you feel yourself getting worked up over something then just walk away and cool off. Then you can come back later and discuss what is bugging you when you are calm.
 
the_alcatraz said:
Do you know how much a session with a good therapist would usually go for? I mean is there a range, cause I dnt wanna be robbed!
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hun, you can get it on medicare (OHIP) if your GP can give you a ref.
There has to be mental health care clinics assocaited with TO General
Paying out of pocket can cost anywhere from 65-120$ an hr
Do you have private insurance through work?
 
silverstar1025 said:
You just have to think before you speak that is all. I admit when I was moody during that time of the month it caused lots of arguments with hubby and me. It got to the point where I was real upset with myself for getting so worked up over small stuff. Hormones can really screw with you. He and I have NO issues anymore at all. He knows when I am on that time of the month so he doesn't pick as much. I don't get grouchy either if I feel myself getting that way I just relax and tell myself to calm down. Life is too short to fight over bs!

If you feel yourself getting worked up over something then just walk away and cool off. Then you can come back later and discuss what is bugging you when you are calm.
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It's deeper than that. His brain cannot process the function of backing off.
It's like telling an Autistic or kid with Asperger to focus.
Calmness has to be taught in certain people.
 
I tried the whole counting till 10 thing...

this is how it went..

1...2...3....4....ah fuck this shit....fuck....fuck....fuck....

silverstar1025 said:
You just have to think before you speak that is all. I admit when I was moody during that time of the month it caused lots of arguments with hubby and me. It got to the point where I was real upset with myself for getting so worked up over small stuff. Hormones can really screw with you. He and I have NO issues anymore at all. He knows when I am on that time of the month so he doesn't pick as much. I don't get grouchy either if I feel myself getting that way I just relax and tell myself to calm down. Life is too short to fight over bs!

If you feel yourself getting worked up over something then just walk away and cool off. Then you can come back later and discuss what is bugging you when you are calm.
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the_alcatraz said:
I tried the whole counting till 10 thing...

this is how it went..

1...2...3....4....ah fuck this shit....fuck....fuck....fuck....
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lol maybe get doctor to give you some xanex then ;)
 
ah fuck me..... :(

blueta2 said:
It's deeper than that. His brain cannot process the function of backing off.
It's like telling an Autistic or kid with Asperger to focus.
Calmness has to be taught in certain people.
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Just chill the fuck out!
 
I did a anger class when I was younger after a fight I got in. I thought it was a joke, it's all done by the state and I went in with a bad attitude to begin with. It's something YOU will have to learn to deal with, no class or person is going to be able to help you with an anger episode. They might have ideas to help, but you need to incorporate those into your daily life.

Good luck bro~
 
the_alcatraz said:
The doctor that I was seeing back home was also a sports doctor.
He said that a lot of my anger is because I have high blood pressure and it effects my "nerves?" I don't neccessarily know what that means. My blood pressure ranges anywhere between 80-90 low and 155-170 high.

You think this could really be a reason?

I have a pretty good life and no problems, but it really does seem that I get pissed off a lot....and I mean so pissed off to the point where I have to break something or get a "rush" to be calm again.... :worried:
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It's your anger causing the blood pressure. Not the other way around.

If your bp is that high while on meds and at your age, you need help because you're a stroke or heart attack waiting to happen.

The top number represents the pressure when your heart contracts and pushes blood out (systolic) and the bottom number is the lowest pressure when the heart relaxes between beats (diastolic).

Blood pressure that is consistently more than 140 / 90 mm Hg is considered high, but if you have diabetes, 130 / 80 mm Hg is high. Normal blood pressure is below 120 / 80 mm Hg.
 
Thank you

How did you deal with it?

SaladFork said:
I did a anger class when I was younger after a fight I got in. I thought it was a joke, it's all done by the state and I went in with a bad attitude to begin with. It's something YOU will have to learn to deal with, no class or person is going to be able to help you with an anger episode. They might have ideas to help, but you need to incorporate those into your daily life.

Good luck bro~
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the_alcatraz said:
Do you know how much a session with a good therapist would usually go for? I mean is there a range, cause I dnt wanna be robbed!
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Couldn't tell ya as I live in a real country where people are responsible for their own medical expenses...to a certain extent anyway. With my insurance it usually costs me a bill per session.
 
Shit!

That's not cheap....

75th said:
Couldn't tell ya as I live in a real country where people are responsible for their own medical expenses...to a certain extent anyway. With my insurance it usually costs me a bill per session.
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My marriage is worth at least $300 per year...but thats just me.

Keep in mind thats for couples. Not sure what yours will be.
 
on a scale of 1-10, how helpful would you say these session were to you?

75th said:
My marriage is worth at least $300 per year...but thats just me.

Keep in mind thats for couples. Not sure what yours will be.
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We don't fight like I hear others do. The extent of our disagreements starts and ends with petty stuff.

Honestly we did it starting right after we got married so I have nothing to compare it to.
 
How long you been doin it? just curious....

I will look into this...

75th said:
We don't fight like I hear others do. The extent of our disagreements starts and ends with petty stuff.

Honestly we did it starting right after we got married so I have nothing to compare it to.
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the_alcatraz said:
How long you been doin it? just curious....

I will look into this...
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Since about 6 months after we got married...so about 5 years now. Maybe more.
 
the_alcatraz said:
Thank you

How did you deal with it?
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I learned life is to short to get pissed at things I have no control over. I guess I grew up and grew out of it. I have been on edge these last few weeks from PCT with being so tired, but learn to deal with it and not take it out on others around me. It's hard somedays but once you learn that YOU do have a problem it makes it easier.
 
FUCK THAT SHIT!!! Made me more angry. A bunch of new age foowee owwee crap talk. Just take care of your aggressions in a controlled inviroment. Do things you like and stuff that makes you laugh. Laughing works best for me. I use to be angry when i was young and classes didn't do shit for me.
 
the_alcatraz said:
Do therapists gurantee that no one will know. I mean, it would suck if people at work knew I'm seeing a therapist because I have anger issues.
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the_alcatraz said:
Do you know how much a session with a good therapist would usually go for? I mean is there a range, cause I dnt wanna be robbed!
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the_alcatraz said:
ah fuck me..... :(
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Anger, fear, aggression; the dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will.

Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you.
 
ceo said:
Anger, fear, aggression; the dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will.

Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you.
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note: anger, fear and hate all lead to suffering

anger can be used as one of the most powerful positive forces in the universe if one can use it correctly
 
ok even though I don't like you I will give you some advice..

it's from high blood pressure, slice your wrists and let some bleed out to let the pressure off.
 
the_alcatraz said:
Oh I def. have rage....two days ago I pulled out a chunk of my hair with my hand....my scalp still hurts :(
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Bro you have some serious deep problems!! You def need help and maybe should be on antidepressants or something. I use to have anger problems also and after going to jail a few times and seeing my friends in prison I knew I needed to control my anger. Getting older, having kids, and then being saved and going to church has really controlled my anger. I never pulled a chunk of my hair out or tried to hurt myself though so you should go to a therapist!
 
ortiz34 said:
I use to have the same problem, in a non-violent way.
Therapy greatly helped me.

Now I save all my rage for Elite Fitness C&C
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And the fucking Yankees!!!!!!
 
oololololololo

Nice! :evil:

ceo said:
Anger, fear, aggression; the dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will.

Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you.
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I see the deep thought behind this thread. I wonder if anyone else has figured it out yet.....
 
That's what surprises me!!!

I'm a very happy person, I just get pissed very easily at times....I get enrged...fuck.....I serioisly get like FUCK PISSED!

Beachboy6294 said:
Bro you have some serious deep problems!! You def need help and maybe should be on antidepressants or something. I use to have anger problems also and after going to jail a few times and seeing my friends in prison I knew I needed to control my anger. Getting older, having kids, and then being saved and going to church has really controlled my anger. I never pulled a chunk of my hair out or tried to hurt myself though so you should go to a therapist!
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the_alcatraz said:
The doctor that I was seeing back home was also a sports doctor.
He said that a lot of my anger is because I have high blood pressure and it effects my "nerves?" I don't neccessarily know what that means. My blood pressure ranges anywhere between 80-90 low and 155-170 high.

You think this could really be a reason?

I have a pretty good life and no problems, but it really does seem that I get pissed off a lot....and I mean so pissed off to the point where I have to break something or get a "rush" to be calm again.... :worried:
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High stress levels can contribute to this too. High bp affects your nerves simply because it impedes your ability to relax. It's a double whammy when you get pissed. That class might help you find an anger outlet.
 
my highschool wrestling teacher let me hit the lockers after the workouts because he said you still had anger and aggression in you even after your workouts....the only thing that used to calm me downwas fighting, and I can't do that anymore because I'm married....

At first, I didn't use to care about what happens to me, but after I got married...I cnt imagine how my wife would react if I got hurt fighting :worried:

So I'm left without an outlet like you said....

Do you have any suggestions for good anger outlets?

hanselthecaretaker said:
High stress levels can contribute to this too. High bp affects your nerves simply because it impedes your ability to relax. It's a double whammy when you get pissed. That class might help you find an anger outlet.
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the_alcatraz said:
my highschool wrestling teacher let me hit the lockers after the workouts because he said you still had anger and aggression in you even after your workouts....the only thing that used to calm me downwas fighting, and I can't do that anymore because I'm married....

At first, I didn't use to care about what happens to me, but after I got married...I cnt imagine how my wife would react if I got hurt fighting :worried:

So I'm left without an outlet like you said....

Do you have any suggestions for good anger outlets?
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You can still go to the gym and hit the bags and get in the ring to burn off some steam I do and it works for me.
 
I tried that and ended up in the ring with a boxer....he tried to show me some moves and ended up on the mat....face flat.

I posted that about 3 months ago on the sports forum when I asked for advice on whether or not I should take up boxing...

Beachboy6294 said:
You can still go to the gym and hit the bags and get in the ring to burn off some steam I do and it works for me.
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AztecWarrior said:
Just tell people don't start nothing there won't be nothing! ;D
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"If you don't give a damn, we don't give a fuck!"

Yeeeaaaaahhhhh! Ohhhh Kaaayyy!!
 
Dude, if you have a problem with me, say it. I'll knock you down the fucking street, you scrawny ass bastard.

You think you're tough? Let's go. PM me and I'll send you plane tickets.


Oh wait, I gotta go empty the dishwasher. But when I get back, you're fucking dead.

OK Putting the kids to bed too. But THEN you're fucking dead. I'm serious this time.

Seriously, go to a therapist for ONE visit. If you don't like it, just never go back. The initial consultation will probably reveal a lot. It can't hurt man. Do it.


and THEN I'll fucking kill you. This time I'm serious.
 
I don't hit senior citizens.

:lmao:

gonelifting said:
Dude, if you have a problem with me, say it. I'll knock you down the fucking street, you scrawny ass bastard.

You think you're tough? Let's go. PM me and I'll send you plane tickets.


Oh wait, I gotta go empty the dishwasher. But when I get back, you're fucking dead.

OK Putting the kids to bed too. But THEN you're fucking dead. I'm serious this time.

Seriously, go to a therapist for ONE visit. If you don't like it, just never go back. The initial consultation will probably reveal a lot. It can't hurt man. Do it.


and THEN I'll fucking kill you. This time I'm serious.
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the_alcatraz said:
"If you live to be one hundred, you've got it made. Very few people die past that age."
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I'm sure they ALL die past that age. So what happens, they turn 100 and become immortal after that?

Do you have health insurance? I think mine charges $30/visit for a therapist.
 
and you're a freaking postaholic. Holy shit!
 
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