andospray and androgel -> BIG SCAM !!!

[NYC BOY]

hey guys,
i asked one chemist guy about androspray and androgel. he is kinda big researcher here in NYC, so he said to me that andogel and androspray does not work !
he said to me that is a big scam !

but he told me prohormones work when u know how to use it ! --> big dose works !

Q:
I read your response to the question about transdermal andro creams. What about the sprays? I have seen one called a "Tonic" that contains isopropyl alcohol and 4-androstene-3,17-diol. Will this be effective?

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A: No! It absolutely will not be effective. It simply will not work. It will not permeate the skin. The andro molecule will never make it into the bloodstream. It will simply dry on the skin surface. I bet the company selling this didn't tell you that did they?

Don't mistake reddening of the skin as an indication of absorption. Isopropyl alcohol will cause erythema (redness of the skin) due to surface capillary dilatation. Isopropyl will not carry the andro molecule through the skin.

That's about the same as mixing up a protein drink and instead of drinking it just rub it all over your skin and think it's going to get absorbed. Not gonna happen.

 

[PencilNeck]

The blood tests show otherwise...here is an excerpt from t-mag.com. Also a graph showing the blood test results.

"So, this is what happens when you apply Androsol: as the alcohol evaporates, much of the 4-AD transfers into the skin, saturating it. The remainder dries to an extremely light, essentially invisible amorphous film. This film tightly adheres to the skin, and readily resupplies 4-AD to the top layer of the skin, keeping it saturated as the prohormone diffuses down through into the deeper layers.

The result is a sustained, very high total flux for at least 16 hours. The scientific literature shows sustained flux for 24 hours for a similar method using testosterone and ethanol, and from personal use, I can definitely tell that 4-AD is still at high levels after 24 hours."

 

[RealDeal]

NYC BOY - do a search bro. Transdermals are, for the most part, considered to work better than orals according to the guys on these boards, it just depends on which brand you get and how you use it.

I believe Androsol's base is primarily water & isopropyl alcohol, both of which evaporate quickly. On the other hand, AndroSpray and Avant Labs' gel formula contain other ingredients to aid transdermal absorption. I am not affiliated with any company, this is just from what I've read about the products and from other guys' results.

Check out the info on Avant Labs site.

 

[zen42]

NYC Boy,

Your friend should spend some time reading up on Transdermal theories and applications.

Androgel is a prescription medication that has been approved by the FDA and has studies to back it up.

Andro Spray uses ethanol which is both hydrophilic and lipophilic which helps move the 4-AD through the dermal layers. It also has Isopropyl Myristate which helps keep the ethanol from drying too quickly. Isopropyl Myristate also acts as a penetration enhancer to open up pathways through the skin. There are plenty of studies to back up the transdermal effects of both of these ingredients.

Androsol, which you didn't mention, uses isopropyl alcohol which is lipophilic helping the dosage get through the first dermal layer. Studies back this up also.

Avant Labs uses a combination of several ingredients to help transfer dosages through the skin. Par Deus has referenced numerous studies to come up with his combination.

Transdermal can only get "so" much drugs into the system, the amount depending on a large number of factors. However, for prohormones it has the capability of delivering more usable amounts than in equivalent oral doses.

 

[-{ GODZILLABOL }-]

Nyc boy you suck big time!!!

This is a question that was asked on www.ast-ss.com. That for sure that he said that transdermal don't work because AST DON'T make any transdermal prohormones.

Bitch

a supposed friend.......

 

[John G]

That isn't cool

Wow, Nyc-Boy that isn't cool. Whats the point in doing that?

 

[NYC BOY]

well i was stupid before and spent money on s*** supplements .

so i continue tradition and want to educate people here/

 

[SteadyGains]

Transdermals work, that's really all there is to say about it.

 

[-{ GODZILLABOL }-]

bump for NYC-BOY!!!!!!

 

[RealDeal]

well i was stupid before and spent money on s*** supplements .

so i continue tradition and want to educate people here/

You're not educating people if you're providing false or inaccurate info bro. When you hear something like that, research the facts first and if you find it's legitimate THEN post. That or phrase the info in the form of a question rather than, like you did here, tell people transdermals suck.

Just a head's up...do that and avoid being flammed.