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BennyGunnz

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What do you guys think about. it isnt really that hardcore but that is fine by me. i like it cause it doesnt have that many side effects! All input appreciated!
 
Anavar only cycle? if that is what you're asking, what is your logic behind it?

On the other hand, adding anavar to your cycle is a good idea.
 
BennyGunnz said:
what do you suggest I stack with it? I am a newbie when it comes to gear
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stats? years training? diet? and cycles? (newbie as in 1 cycle or 0 cycles)

Let's go over all that, it will help me help you :coffee:
 
cyrex said:
0 cycles
160 lbs
6'1"
19 years old


I should start a karma bookie event...
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This could be possible, but let's see what he says first. :)
 
BennyGunnz said:
20, 191lbs, 0 cycles, 5' 9'', i have been training seriously for about 2 years
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Tell me more about your goals, and go ahead and post your DIET here (what you're eating).
 
My goals: Well as you can tell by my weight i am happy with my size right now. I would just like to slim down for summer. I have always had some extra weight on me and now i am starting to realize that i want it off lol.

My Diet:
Everymorning:
6 eggwhites
1 orange
1 bowl kashi
2 bottles of water

Snack:
1 oats and honey granola bar

Lunch:
Sushi usually spicy tuna roll or something similar.
or
grilled chicken sand on whole wheat with lettuce tomato and mustard

LIFT

Snack:
muscle milk shake

dinner:
steak, fish, or chicken
plain grilled or broiled
large salad
small baked potato

snack: muscle milk shake
 
ive read thats its possible to get about 12 lb of lean muscle on an var only cycle(some only get around 4lb gain), at 50mg a day for 8 weeks. because your new to aas, you might get great gains. they say the first cycle is like no other. you have to train hard, eat correctly and nomatter what youve read, do a proper pct. also, ive read that you shed off alot of body fat in the process. hope that helps. + dont forget about the strenght gains... oh yeah, its really expensive, lol.
vic
 
Anavar is very safe. Most will tell you that you must add test, but I have run var only cycles in the past with great results.

PCT not necassary, decent strength gains, next to no sides.

I would recommend var to any beginner that wants to start off slow and see what AAS can offer them.

Seems like many will just say your a pussy, stick yourself. I use both and I say go for it. Don't let others pressure you.
 
d_o_c_ said:
Anavar is very safe. Most will tell you that you must add test, but I have run var only cycles in the past with great results.

PCT not necassary, decent strength gains, next to no sides.

I would recommend var to any beginner that wants to start off slow and see what AAS can offer them.

Seems like many will just say your a pussy, stick yourself. I use both and I say go for it. Don't let others pressure you.
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hey bro,
without pct, did u lose any gains? pct with var is kinda controversial, but i figured to be on the safe side pct would be needed since vas is supresive. tell us how it went for you, what gains? thanx alot!
 
Why anavar? it's expensive. While you say money isn't an issue. money is ALWAYS an issue. How much of an issue depends.
While most might not recommend this for a first cycle. For the goals you are looking at you might want to do something like the following:

Test Cyp 250mg/wk wk1-14
EQ 800mg wk1
EQ 600mg wk2
EQ 400mg wk3-12
Anavar 50mg ED wk1-6

the lower dose of test is still well above natural levels so for a noob it should give good gains by itself. Also the lower dose will lessen any bloat you might experience. EQ should give good hard gains with some vascularity. Anavar for the first 6 weeks will help boost strength and kickstart with some nice dry gains. Frontloading EQ allows you to get your levels up quickly while keeping the cycle relatively short. Stop the EQ a week and a half to two weeks before you stop the test since the half life is about half a week longer and it will take more time to drop than the test. keep you diet around 3000 Cal/day and you should be able to gain some very lean muscle. I wouldn't be surprised if you put on 15 lbs of solid muscle and no more than 1 lbs of fat.
Don't forget PCT either. I'll leave that for your research or another reply.
 
BennyGunnz said:
is primo and var on the same
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The site listed below will give you the basic info you need and answer many of your questions. From this knowledge base, you can then make a full spectrum plan for muscle gains.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=441371

Anavar alone will provide you with some lasting gains with little risk.
It will also give you just a little preview of aas sides. 15 mg p/d (3 x 5) over 6 weeks is plenty.

Oral only is not heavily supported here. Injections are for many reasons including safety and results.

At 20 years old, you should have very high natural test levels. This positions you for a deca and dbol stack if you are ready for a bigger step.

There are some ebooks for sale on this site that will spell all this out for you if you really want to learn.
 
bro's you should read this article on anavar.. very good !!

Generic Name: Oxandrolone

Oxandrolone has often been used as a growth-promoting
agent in the therapy of boys with growth delays in
adolescence. In fact, according to one Italian study,
oxandrolone was as effective as GH in promoting growth
in these individuals. One French study found it superior
to GH in treating girls affected with Turner's syndrome,
another growth-delay ailment. In obese individuals,
oral oxandrolone has been shown to decrease
subcutaneous abdominal fat more than testosterone
enanthate or weight loss alone, and it also tended
to produce favorable changes in visceral fat.

Oxandrolone works specifically by amplifying the
amount of growth hormone (GH) released per burst
without altering GH secretory burst duration, frequency,
or the GH half-life.

Dosage

As little as 2.5 mg of the drug can positively
shift nitrogen balance. Dosages used by bodybuilders
range from 0.125 mg to 2.5 mg per kilogram of bodyweight.
Studies do not support any benefits to dosages over
1.1 mg/kg, and European bodybuilding coaches consider
0.25 to 0.5 mg/kg to be the optimal dosage. Most male
bodybuilders have reported significant improvements
in strength and recovery ability from dosages varying
between 30 mg and 80 mg per day. Female bodybuilders
use about half of the male dosage.

Beneficial effects

Oxandrolone is a multipurpose drug, as it is used
during both off and in season for competitive
bodybuilding, many weight-class regulated sports,
track and field, cycling, and strength sports. In
strength-training circles, Oxandrolone has been
reported as the most efficient strength-inducing
drug on a per-mg basis.

It is believed to be one of the best inducers of
creatine phosphate synthesis in muscle tissue.
However, there are no scientific studies to
support this statement.

Its low androgenicity makes it very popular with
many female athletes, such as bodybuilders.

It has virtually no liver toxicity, even at doses
as high as 80 mg a day. It's even been given to
patients suffering from liver cirrohsis.

Oxandrolone will not shut down a man's pituitary-gonadal
axis. There is no evidence that it suppresses testosterone
or sperm production, which is why it's the oral of choice
when pyramiding off steroids. Many bodybuilders have
tapered off anabolic usage by switching to Oxandrolone
at 30 mg per day and slowly reducing the dosage by 2.5 mg
every five days until endogenous testosterone production
is back to normal.

Bodybuilders rate it as an excellent hardening drug
for physique contests.

Athletes report that with Oxandrolone, they have the
highest retention of gains upon cessation of use when
compared with other steroids.

It's one of the only anabolics that does not cause
premature closure of bone epiphyses in children.

Since it doesn't aromatize, there's no need to take
Tamoxifen, Proviron, or Cytadren when using oxandrolone.

Negative side effects:

It has more negative effects on blood lipids than reported
originally in scientific literature.

In females, dosages above 15 mg a day can cause facial
hair, deepening of the voice, clitoral hypertrophy, and
acne.

With Oxandrolone, a very limited number of individuals
have reported gastrointestinal problems ranging from a
sensation of stomach fullness to appetite suppression,
nausea, and diarrhea.
 
I'm on anavar/test right now and my strength is going through the roof. I was working out hard before my cycle and I wasn't peaked but it was VERY slow going. My bench is going up every chest workout it seems. I don't quite have "guns" yet but 1" growth in my arms is nice too. This is all before the test should have really kicked in
 
Var is great..Keepable gains no sides..Awesome. I stacked it with winny first cycle and got a Big bump in strength and shed some fat without really trying to cut at all. Kept 90% of the gains, and ran a more conservative dose than most advised. I am gonna stack it with some sust this time and see what happens. 3wks can't wait ;) I had a bro that ran Var only 50mg e/d and said it kicked ass. Take it with some creatine and glutamine for best results. At your age no cycles go Var only costs alot but that cause it's good!
 
50mg ED of Anavar gives me pumps that scare the little kids when I walk next to the kiddie room, on my way to the water foutnain.....Their moms get scared well, a good scarwed ;)
 
Bro, I personally have found Var to be a great gains keeper.....I like to run a good 8-12 week test based bulking cycle...PCT for a month and then run a Var/proviron cycle behind it.......I cut calories and increase cardio on my Var cycle and am able to cut and retain gaines at the same time. Recovery seems to be really easy for me also.
 
BennyGunnz said:
What do you guys think about. it isnt really that hardcore but that is fine by me. i like it cause it doesnt have that many side effects! All input appreciated!
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Hi, Anavar or should I say: Oxandrolone is a low androngenyc effect product and is used generally more used by women than men, but is good for men to use it in pre-competition period and the best mix is with Masteron and with the Stanozolol. You should use it taking in count your weight and make a good mix of pharmacs to see good result in what are you looking for, now tell me what are you looking for about this product so maybe I can help you?
 
Retabolil2 said:
I never heard of cheap BMW :) So cheap var must be fake! :evil:
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powder is less expensive....I cap my own for var.....I can cap 200-50mg caps for less $ than an 8 week 50 mg cycle if I buy pills....good to see you Ret..hope you've been doing well.
 
cyrex said:
Why anavar? it's expensive. While you say money isn't an issue. money is ALWAYS an issue. How much of an issue depends.
While most might not recommend this for a first cycle. For the goals you are looking at you might want to do something like the following:

Test Cyp 250mg/wk wk1-14
EQ 800mg wk1
EQ 600mg wk2
EQ 400mg wk3-12
Anavar 50mg ED wk1-6

the lower dose of test is still well above natural levels so for a noob it should give good gains by itself. Also the lower dose will lessen any bloat you might experience. EQ should give good hard gains with some vascularity. Anavar for the first 6 weeks will help boost strength and kickstart with some nice dry gains. Frontloading EQ allows you to get your levels up quickly while keeping the cycle relatively short. Stop the EQ a week and a half to two weeks before you stop the test since the half life is about half a week longer and it will take more time to drop than the test. keep you diet around 3000 Cal/day and you should be able to gain some very lean muscle. I wouldn't be surprised if you put on 15 lbs of solid muscle and no more than 1 lbs of fat.
Don't forget PCT either. I'll leave that for your research or another reply.
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I did almost an identical cycle. Did sus instead of cyp. Great results. I did an Anvar-50mgs w/ 600mgs EQ for 8 weeks with great results too. I use Anavar in all of my cycles. I like the effects/results with no sides.
 
cyrex said:
Why anavar? it's expensive. While you say money isn't an issue. money is ALWAYS an issue. How much of an issue depends.
While most might not recommend this for a first cycle. For the goals you are looking at you might want to do something like the following:

Test Cyp 250mg/wk wk1-14
EQ 800mg wk1
EQ 600mg wk2
EQ 400mg wk3-12
Anavar 50mg ED wk1-6

the lower dose of test is still well above natural levels so for a noob it should give good gains by itself. Also the lower dose will lessen any bloat you might experience. EQ should give good hard gains with some vascularity. Anavar for the first 6 weeks will help boost strength and kickstart with some nice dry gains. Frontloading EQ allows you to get your levels up quickly while keeping the cycle relatively short. Stop the EQ a week and a half to two weeks before you stop the test since the half life is about half a week longer and it will take more time to drop than the test. keep you diet around 3000 Cal/day and you should be able to gain some very lean muscle. I wouldn't be surprised if you put on 15 lbs of solid muscle and no more than 1 lbs of fat.
Don't forget PCT either. I'll leave that for your research or another reply.
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I did almost an identical cycle. Did sus instead of cyp. Great results. I did an Anvar-50mgs w/ 600mgs EQ for 8 weeks with great results too. I use Anavar in all of my cycles. I like the effects/results with no sides.
 
Ok so now that I have chosen Anavar for my first cycle what dosage should i take and how many times a week? Also how long should the cycle be?
 
BennyGunnz said:
Ok so now that I have chosen Anavar for my first cycle what dosage should i take and how many times a week? Also how long should the cycle be?
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40mgs for 6-8 weeks


space the dosages out to every 8 hrs
 
I am going to keep lifting atleast 5 days a week when i get on this stuff, besides that i am thinking about uping my cardio to 4 days is week do you guys think that this is ok? Also are there any heart health risks that come with taking anavar?
 
BennyGunnz said:
I am going to keep lifting atleast 5 days a week when i get on this stuff, besides that i am thinking about uping my cardio to 4 days is week do you guys think that this is ok? Also are there any heart health risks that come with taking anavar?
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well if your looking to cut then upping the cardio is a plus as its all about cals in vs cals out, not so much what you take to get there....additionally in regards to your asking about heart complications well we cant answer specifically based on the simple fact everyone reacts differently also there are risks involved when getting into this "game" whether it be health related or faimly related or even law related........

good luck
 
d_o_c_ said:
Not really. You can find 100 20mg caps for about $70-100 now.

So they are getting afordable if you look in the right places.
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First of all a Var only cycle is NOT a good idea. You will destroy your HDL and LDL levels and will make less gains. Go 500mg Test EW. Secondly don't post prices.
 
steelmass said:
First of all a Var only cycle is NOT a good idea. You will destroy your HDL and LDL levels and will make less gains. Go 500mg Test EW. Secondly don't post prices.
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test only isnt the answer to everyone in regards to their first cycle.....
 
You can go Anavar only and get gr8 results with little to know side effects. You could ad test for a bit better effect but Anavar only may get you what you want and is safest of all anabolics. Go 40mg e/d split in 2 doses and take 10g Creatine e/d and some glutamine. You will probably like the results. You can do PCT if you want but Anavar doesn't effect your bodies natural hormone production, it works mainly through Creatine sysnthesis in the muscles. So PCT is not really needed if you take a moderate dose. I have done an extreme amount of research on Anavar. It's my favorite oral AAS. It's not a bad choice. It just depends what your goals are. I did an Oral only Anavar Winny cycle and got awesome results, no side effects and kept 95% of my gains. I also did that on a lesser dose than what most were recommending. I am going to run a sust/anavar cycle now because I am interested to see if there is a BIG difference like people say. All I know is that I have 2 bros that have run Anavar only and loved it. Like I said it all depends on your goals. IMO
 
MILLENNIUM said:
You can go Anavar only and get gr8 results with little to know side effects. You could ad test for a bit better effect but Anavar only may get you what you want and is safest of all anabolics. Go 40mg e/d split in 2 doses and take 10g Creatine e/d and some glutamine. You will probably like the results. You can do PCT if you want but Anavar doesn't effect your bodies natural hormone production, it works mainly through Creatine sysnthesis in the muscles. So PCT is not really needed if you take a moderate dose. I have done an extreme amount of research on Anavar. It's my favorite oral AAS. It's not a bad choice. It just depends what your goals are. I did an Oral only Anavar Winny cycle and got awesome results, no side effects and kept 95% of my gains. I also did that on a lesser dose than what most were recommending. I am going to run a sust/anavar cycle now because I am interested to see if there is a BIG difference like people say. All I know is that I have 2 bros that have run Anavar only and loved it. Like I said it all depends on your goals. IMO
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I agree with all of this did it and loved it but I would not recomend not doing pct

nolva is recomended
 
DieselGunz said:
I agree with all of this did it and loved it but I would not recomend not doing pct

nolva is recomended
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Agreed.. I don't think there is anything wrong with doing PCT at all. Nolva is great. All I was saying is that if there is one AAS that you could get away with not doing PCT it would be Var. :coffee:
 
MILLENNIUM said:
Agreed.. I don't think there is anything wrong with doing PCT at all. Nolva is great. All I was saying is that if there is one AAS that you could get away with not doing PCT it would be Var. :coffee:
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agreed.............awesome shit
 
64Pilot said:
50mg ED of Anavar gives me pumps that scare the little kids when I walk next to the kiddie room, on my way to the water foutnain.....Their moms get scared well, a good scarwed ;)
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Im using 50mg ed of var in my next cycle. How much you weigh...cycle history?
 
OK so anavar only it is. I will probably start mid-april, Hopefully. I really thank all of you for your input. The only thing is should i do 40 or 50 mg EVERDAY and should i split my dose?
 
BennyGunnz said:
OK so anavar only it is. I will probably start mid-april, Hopefully. I really thank all of you for your input. The only thing is should i do 40 or 50 mg EVERDAY and should i split my dose?
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start with 40 and if u want jump to 50 half way though


break it up var has a half life of about 9 hours
 
for how many weeks? 6 or 8? and as for pct, all that is needed is nolva? or should hcg be used aswell... thanx guys, you rock.
 
I would use it for anywhere between 6 to 8 weeks.....all depends how much you got. If you got enough then run it for 8.
 
viczeva said:
for how many weeks? 6 or 8? and as for pct, all that is needed is nolva? or should hcg be used aswell... thanx guys, you rock.
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You can even go longer with Var if you want without problem. If you have enough go 10-12 weeks. Nolva should be good enough for PCT Var is very easy on the body in comparison to other AAS. Take some EFA with it too or the liver detox everyone talks about on here. Although it is one of the safest its still a 17AA and hard on the liver. 6 weeks won't get you much with just Var. 8 weeks minimum more if you have enough. I would rather run 40mg for longer than 50mg and only get 6-8wks. PCT is just a precation 25mg Nolva e/d for 3 weeks should be more than enough. Just my opinion. :coffee:
 
MILLENNIUM said:
You can even go longer with Var if you want without problem. If you have enough go 10-12 weeks. Nolva should be good enough for PCT Var is very easy on the body in comparison to other AAS. Take some EFA with it too or the liver detox everyone talks about on here. Although it is one of the safest its still a 17AA and hard on the liver. 6 weeks won't get you much with just Var. 8 weeks minimum more if you have enough. I would rather run 40mg for longer than 50mg and only get 6-8wks. PCT is just a precation 25mg Nolva e/d for 3 weeks should be more than enough. Just my opinion. :coffee:
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thanx bro, apreciate the advice. i really dont know how much i will run it for, im just doing my research before finding where to get it. i was thiking 40 mg e/d for 8 weeks should give some decent gains. im currently on bulking diet to see what gains i can get for the next couple of months, maybe i dont even need it, lol. thanx again.
 
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