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Anavar/winstrol Massive headaches!

dreckis said:
im on a cycle of anavar/winstrol and im getting constant headaches everyday.

anything i can do to help?
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Check your bp and drop one of them. How many mg's a day are you running and is the winsrtol oral or injectible?
 
mookie said:
Check your bp and drop one of them. How many mg's a day are you running and is the winsrtol oral or injectible?
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Im taking 30mg each oral. i noticed the heachaches worse once i up'd my winstrol intake.

I started out taking 30 anavar and 20 winny. I just up'd the winstrol to 30 and the headaches are starting everyday now.

What would be a safe dosage for anavar? could i just go with anavar 50mg a day? and lose the winstrol?

Also should i be taking anything like clomid or nova after a cycle of winny/anavar? i havent heard of it before.

thanks guys much appreciated.
 
I would drop the winstrol, 50mg of var a day is good. Yeah run something for pct one or the other or both. Both are suppressive so you need a pct.
 
mookie said:
I would drop the winstrol, 50mg of var a day is good. Yeah run something for pct one or the other or both. Both are suppressive so you need a pct.
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Thanks ill get rid of the winny and switch to full var is this ok half way into my cycle? .

sucks i got 500 winny's to trash lol
 
rykertest said:
question: are you positive it is actually var and winny you are taking?
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positive. reliable source and friend uses has been using it for years. sealed bags from british dragon
 
dreckis said:
positive. reliable source and friend uses has been using it for years. sealed bags from british dragon
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OK, then there goes my little theory! lol Then BP checks as stated above would be my next step. Good luck bro!
 
I wouldnt run two orals at the same time. Even if the winny is injectable; the var added to it is not a good diea.
 
^^^^^stay away from the double oral...(IMO) var is great expecially high for me...and yes i got bloodwork done i am fine....but i like var at 75mg/ed..good luck brotha...hope there are no holes in your liver
 
Anthony Starks said:
I can tell you from experience that var is going to raise your BP pretty bad...
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Var had my BP waaay high. We're talking 172/90!!! I was really surprised because all the literature and EF forums testimonials led me to believe that my BP wouldn't be swayed at all. Just goes to show how differently everyone responds to AAS.
 
Reubsf said:
Var had my BP waaay high. We're talking 172/90!!! I was really surprised because all the literature and EF forums testimonials led me to believe that my BP wouldn't be swayed at all. Just goes to show how differently everyone responds to AAS.
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I bet it raises everyone's BP to some extent, but most people on var aren't getting it checked a lot. I used to be a huge var proponent, now I'm starting to think the long term health risks of it might make it one of the worst, and not the safest AAS.
 
Anthony Starks said:
I bet it raises everyone's BP to some extent, but most people on var aren't getting it checked a lot. I used to be a huge var proponent, now I'm starting to think the long term health risks of it might make it one of the worst, and not the safest AAS.
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Well I hate to say it but I have been on var at 60mg for 3 days only, and the last 2 days Ive had some killer headaches, but on the other hand there could be other reasons but its either
A. because I started taking Var, or B. because I have been on caffeine supplements for the last year straight and this last week I have stopped.

I do get headaches when I dont take an energy supp throughout the day so that could possibly be it.

So to figure out the problem, tomorrow I will start back up my energy supps and determine if the var is givin me headaches then I will check BP.
 
GymIntensity said:
Well I hate to say it but I have been on var at 60mg for 3 days only, and the last 2 days Ive had some killer headaches, but on the other hand there could be other reasons but its either
A. because I started taking Var, or B. because I have been on caffeine supplements for the last year straight and this last week I have stopped.

I do get headaches when I dont take an energy supp throughout the day so that could possibly be it.

So to figure out the problem, tomorrow I will start back up my energy supps and determine if the var is givin me headaches then I will check BP.
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I would honestly say that you stopping the caffeine would probably be the reasoning behind your headaches.
 
boston789 said:
I would honestly say that you stopping the caffeine would probably be the reasoning behind your headaches.
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well bro you are partially right. the first couple days From withdrawing from caffeine I did have headaches. bout 4th day or so it stopped then soon after I started var at 60mg ED and it started back. Soooo...

I wanted to bring thread back up because tonite at work about 3am I started to feel faint, dizzy and got hot all of a sudden. Well a little while later I got my BP checked while i was at work and it was 170/81 which the top number is high compared to my usual numbers. I usually have great BP around 115/75 somewhere around there. So Im fairly sure it is the var and because of this im going to stop and maybe switch to tbol, not sure if that will have bad BP effects either tho.

But I need a view good bros to chime in and make sure im doing the right reason by stopping the var.
 
dreckis said:
Thanks ill get rid of the winny and switch to full var is this ok half way into my cycle? .

sucks i got 500 winny's to trash lol
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LIke was siad stay on the Var I get headaches from it tho. Don't really get them from the winny. I usually taek 2 advil and it goes away. And if your gonna trash the winny and not save it for another cycle then send it my way. Pm me for an address lol.
 
GymIntensity said:
well bro you are partially right. the first couple days From withdrawing from caffeine I did have headaches. bout 4th day or so it stopped then soon after I started var at 60mg ED and it started back. Soooo...

I wanted to bring thread back up because tonite at work about 3am I started to feel faint, dizzy and got hot all of a sudden. Well a little while later I got my BP checked while i was at work and it was 170/81 which the top number is high compared to my usual numbers. I usually have great BP around 115/75 somewhere around there. So Im fairly sure it is the var and because of this im going to stop and maybe switch to tbol, not sure if that will have bad BP effects either tho.

But I need a view good bros to chime in and make sure im doing the right reason by stopping the var.
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170/81 is not good, bro.
 
Anthony Starks said:
I normally have low BP numbers too - on 45mg of var I'm up to 144 / 60. Enough to concern me, but if I was up at 170 I would get off everything before I dropped dead.
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Tbol/Var...or it could've been the Primo...anyway, my BP went up to 172/90 and my doctor just about shit himself! He was ready to hit me with some Lasix to get it down. That kind of BP had my ears ringing, my head aching, my nose constantly bleeding, my muscles cramping, and just all around low grade misery. After 2 weeks of coming off AAS and eating SUPER clean, my BP started coming down really quickly. Not worth it IMHO.
 
Reubsf said:
Tbol/Var...or it could've been the Primo...anyway, my BP went up to 172/90 and my doctor just about shit himself! He was ready to hit me with some Lasix to get it down. That kind of BP had my ears ringing, my head aching, my nose constantly bleeding, my muscles cramping, and just all around low grade misery. After 2 weeks of coming off AAS and eating SUPER clean, my BP started coming down really quickly. Not worth it IMHO.
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Well thanks bro, I guess my decision to stop all var completely is good. Haven't taken todays dose and still have a slight headache. But I guess I have 140 caps of var that are no good to me :(

I'm thinking about just Running EQ/proviron and POSSIBLY adding inject winny the last 6 weeks.
 
GymIntensity said:
Well thanks bro, I guess my decision to stop all var completely is good. Haven't taken todays dose and still have a slight headache. But I guess I have 140 caps of var that are no good to me :(

I'm thinking about just Running EQ/proviron and POSSIBLY adding inject winny the last 6 weeks.
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Yeah, if you're taking something that's making you feel lousy, it might be a good idea to stop. On a side note, EQ elevates BP in some people...might be due to the increased red blood cell production. Not saying it'll happen to you, but it DOES happen to some. Stay safe, healthy, and good luck brah.
 
Reubsf said:
Tbol/Var...or it could've been the Primo...anyway, my BP went up to 172/90 and my doctor just about shit himself! He was ready to hit me with some Lasix to get it down. That kind of BP had my ears ringing, my head aching, my nose constantly bleeding, my muscles cramping, and just all around low grade misery. After 2 weeks of coming off AAS and eating SUPER clean, my BP started coming down really quickly. Not worth it IMHO.
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It was probably the tbol/var. I highly doubt that primo raised your bp that much.
 
boston789 said:
It was probably the tbol/var. I highly doubt that primo raised your bp that much.
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Yes sir, you're probably right. Just been very unsure about it since Primo is also not supposed to shut you down, yet it shut me down pretty good. But yes, you are very likely right, Boston.
 
I am an endurance athlete and I have been posting latley while doing reasearch for my first cycle...

what do you think about a cyclist using these: Var & winny
 
crider said:
I am an endurance athlete and I have been posting latley while doing reasearch for my first cycle...

what do you think about a cyclist using these: Var & winny
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I can't speak for Winny, but Var and distance running was horrible for me because of the BP sides. For an endurance athlete, you are better off just staying clean.
 
Reubsf said:
Yes sir, you're probably right. Just been very unsure about it since Primo is also not supposed to shut you down, yet it shut me down pretty good. But yes, you are very likely right, Boston.
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I used to think some AAS didnt shut you down as well. The thing is...all AAS shuts you down one way or another to some degree. Obviously some are going to shut you down harder than others and of course dosing is important as well. But you should always have, at least, some nolva on hand.
 
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