that's not the only thing with anavar that you have to worry about... everyone acts like its so mild but in reality, it is far from it... there is a high toxicity level, a very negative effect on lipids and it definitely can cause shutdown... you must run n2guard with it to protect your internal organs and keep your levels where they need to be and i would highly suggest running hcgenerate ES to keep shutdown to a minimum and give yourself a smooth transition into pct...