I have not come across those.. Still get British Dragon from a supplier. Even though the original British Dragon went down there were people who picked up the slack. I still had a contact from years ago sending the same square orange 10mg BD Anavar tabs. Amazing stuff. Its really about trusting your source. You have to understand anybody with access to raw material and the equipment can punch out any tab. You need a dye cast for the mold, the excipients and the coloring that matches up with what you are looking for and the tablet press machine (well other equip too). In Asia there are many people who can get it done and pass it on as anything. But the BD tabs are spot on... and work nicely. Always buy a little from your source... Try it out with a current running cycle that you throw it into and you will get a good idea.