Anavar question for Fonz, Ulter and other vets

[JG1]

And I'm currently testing out a supp that is very promising for chol control, so Ill keep you up-dated.

Fonz

natto?

 

[Ulter]

I have been on oxandrolone for over a year at a time and never had it affect my liver enzymes. I do take Tyler every day though.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Thanks ulter, yeah I read a long time ago when I and a friend were on Anabolic Fitness that you ran sick doses of anavar for long peroids of time, and I know that you get regular bloodwork done, which is why I asked you.

 

[Fonz]

natto?

No......thats just one thing. Nattokinase acts like aspirin but w/o its drawbacks. It has a panoply of benefits but what I'm testing now helps RAISE HDL cholesterol, while lowering LDL and total cholesterol. Its naturally occurring as well.

Fonz

 

[Fonz]

I have been on oxandrolone for over a year at a time and never had it affect my liver enzymes. I do take Tyler every day though.

BTG though.

Only BTG and SPA have a minimal effect on Chol levels. Because of the low dose(< 50mg)...necessary to get results.

All other anavars need a higher dose, therefore affect chol levels more.

With the right supplements however, you can keep normal chol levels on almost any anavar that is decent.

Fonz

Fonz

 

[onedieselboy]

i have access to btg ox like candy...i want to run them for long time......what would be optimal dosage? 30mg? 40mg?

 

[kronk]

BTG though.

Only BTG and SPA have a minimal effect on Chol levels. Because of the low dose(< 50mg)...necessary to get results.

All other anavars need a higher dose, therefore affect chol levels more.

With the right supplements however, you can keep normal chol levels on almost any anavar that is decent.

Fonz

Fonz

I would tend to agree, but have not run enough tests on ohter vars to make a valid point. I do know for a fact, that one can stay on PaperVar for very long periods at a done of 40-50mg ed, and have little to no side effects on these levels.

 

[haxedout]

I've heard different stories concerning the level of heta toxicity possessed by anavar. What is the real scoop here. Have any of you had your liver values checked while on a long anavar cycle? I've got access to raw materials, temporarly, at a great price and am thinking of making enough to run a 12-16 week cycle of it, however the potential for liver damage does concern me, so I would love to have some ligitimate information on the subject rather than just hearsay from those who may or may not really know what they are talking about. Thanks for any infor you can give guys.

i have tooken up to 120mg a day..... was on anavar for months, never had any toxicity problems, but i didnt get any tests done.. OX is the shit if you got the money....

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Thanks guys, karma for everyone.

 

[Generic MALE]

I have done 2 cycles of oxandrolone - one using BTG and one with Spanish Generic (white caps filled with a yellow powder). I had blood tests done and it did not skew my chem panel (liver enzyme) results - but I was taking 500 mg of calcium-D-Glucurate a day and 1,000 MG a day of NAC (n-acetyl cysteine). NAC is the recommended ER treatment for certain toxic liver conditions like acetameniphen poisoning (I think 140 mg per kg is the oral ER dose). I don't think Tyler's has enough CDG in it, or else you havre to eat a shit load of them and they are a bit pricey. My cholesterol was bad - but I was also doing some injectibles like testo (per MD's prescription) which will smash cholesterol.

This time around I am doing gugglesterones and more importantly policosanol and will soon see what my cholesterol is doing.

Nattokinase by the way is available to anyone via phone orders straight from the company if they are interested in something to reduce the chances of clotting (like apsirin does). But I think Natto works primarily by reducing fibrinogin levels, not by reducing platelet agglutination. If I am right in my thoughts, about fibrinogin induced clots - then Bromelain is a much cheaper alternative to Natto and would do the exact same thing.

Just my observation, but it seems ox reduces my sex drive - maybe its just my imagination, and I only have 2 ox cycles to evaluate under my belt, but it seems it effects me that way.