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Anavar for long periods

dugie65

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How long is it possible to take anavar without damaging the liver?

A few studies were done on hospitalized patients at a low dosage (70-140mg total EW) for several months with no noticable liver damage, but these studies were also done with children taking many other medications that could be harmful to the liver.

Any one have any clue (or know of any studies) about the range of anavar cycle length that is possible?
 
dugie65 said:
How long is it possible to take anavar without damaging the liver?

I always suggest being safe with orals. Stick to 4-6 weeks tops.
 
This is something I've never understood. All oral steroids are liver toxic because of the 17 Alk group. So why do some people say, that some are more / less toxic than others if they are all toxic for exactly the same reason?
 
not trying to start a fire here, but i ran winstrol for 6 months when i was a stupid newb and i didn't know about ef. my liver was fine. my best friend who got me into it and told me it was "harmless" yes i was an idiot, ran winny for 2 years no joke. his liver was fine. so i am suspect about the whole liver problems. with that said anavar is less toxic so i think you can run it for 6-8 weeks and be fine.
 
2 years on Winny... its amazing your friend still has a liver. What doses were you guys running for that long and what did you do for PCT?
 
YankeesMan said:
2 years on Winny... its amazing your friend still has a liver. What doses were you guys running for that long and what did you do for PCT?
here is the sad part my friend, and yes i take all responsibility i was a moron, newbies never do what i did or my friend. but the sad part is he runs no pct. the even sadder part is that he still runs winny and var together pretty much year round. i was amazed he had a liver as well. he is 205 5% bf no matter what, he doesn't eat much more than 2000 cals and he puts up 475 no problem. he is just one of those dudes that is stubborn as a mule, his father is a doctor and he gets his bloodwork done and really thinks winny is harmless. he won't come on this board. i don't know how he maintains his gains without pct, he is just a freak. i was in the middle of running that winny when i stumbled onto ef. at that point i learned about 17aas and freaked out. had all my blood work done and thank god i was fine, i hopped on nolva right after and had no problems. it messed up my cholesterol for a month but that was it. my friend had low blood platelettes but that was it. no liver damage. you have to remember aids patients run up to 50mg of dbol ed for months on end to keep up size and appetite, and they don't get liver damage.
 
I know a guy whos runs Anadrol all year. At 50 mg ed I beleieve. Mind you he has a legit shot of getting his card if he brings it at nationals, but still ... no liver problems.
 
bruce410 said:
not trying to start a fire here, but i ran winstrol for 6 months when i was a stupid newb and i didn't know about ef. my liver was fine. my best friend who got me into it and told me it was "harmless" yes i was an idiot, ran winny for 2 years no joke. his liver was fine. so i am suspect about the whole liver problems. with that said anavar is less toxic so i think you can run it for 6-8 weeks and be fine.

What did your hdl look like?

And my friends swears the magic with var happens at the 10 week mark. Drastic changes in body composition. We shall see tho soon. ;)
 
galaxy said:
What did your hdl look like?

And my friends swears the magic with var happens at the 10 week mark. Drastic changes in body composition. We shall see tho soon. ;)
sorry bro i didn't get technical as i was scared shitless and quite newbyish. the doctor who was a sports doc at my university knew all about steroids. he said my cholesterol was slightly worse than it normally was. my liver values were fine and so was bp. i wish i had numbers for you. my friend is weird as hell with his usage. he does 50mg eod of winny and usually like 40mg of var ed. he never increases dosages after years. my diet was shit back then but still after 2 months my strength was fucking insane for how much i weighed. i just didn't want to come off and as mentioned i didn't think winny was harmful at all. i had no sides at all. only thing is i still feel the fucking aching in my elbows from the winstrol. that was what i regret about it the most.
 
Does you pal have abs and veins and shit?
does he look good. is he strong?
does he have real good genetics? what do parents and brothers look like.

thanks

bruce410 said:
sorry bro i didn't get technical as i was scared shitless and quite newbyish. the doctor who was a sports doc at my university knew all about steroids. he said my cholesterol was slightly worse than it normally was. my liver values were fine and so was bp. i wish i had numbers for you. my friend is weird as hell with his usage. he does 50mg eod of winny and usually like 40mg of var ed. he never increases dosages after years. my diet was shit back then but still after 2 months my strength was fucking insane for how much i weighed. i just didn't want to come off and as mentioned i didn't think winny was harmful at all. i had no sides at all. only thing is i still feel the fucking aching in my elbows from the winstrol. that was what i regret about it the most.
 
heavy_duty said:
Does you pal have abs and veins and shit?
does he look good. is he strong?
does he have real good genetics? what do parents and brothers look like.

thanks
incredible genetics. yes about 6 foot 205 5% year round. abs and veins, 31 inch waist 18.5 inch arms. benches 475 as a warm up no joke. he isn't the biggest guy in the gym but ive never met anyone stronger. his uncle and father were on a championship ohio state football team. he was an all american strong safety from a top high school in the midwest. brother doesn't work out but did for a year along with a cycle of dbol and no pct. he looked awesome about 200 lbs at 5 10 maybe 10% bf. lost all of it obviously cause he quit workin out when he came off the dbol. my friend never fuckin eats bro, smokes like a chimney weed and cigs, drinks lattes all day, maybe has a protein shake twice a day, 2-3 meals tops. he never shrinks he never bloats always looks the same. he went into rehab and came out looking exactly the same. if you ask him he'll tell you its the winny. he has serious issues with winny and anavar to say the least. he does think they are magical because of the way he is, but i think a lot of it is genetics. he never had to eat a lot to get where he is so he feels like it was the winny and var. for me getting to 205 from 145 like he did would not be possible without taking in 5000 cals for a few years.
 
bruce410 said:
incredible genetics. yes about 6 foot 205 5% year round. abs and veins, 31 inch waist 18.5 inch arms. benches 475 as a warm up no joke. he isn't the biggest guy in the gym but ive never met anyone stronger. his uncle and father were on a championship ohio state football team. he was an all american strong safety from a top high school in the midwest. brother doesn't work out but did for a year along with a cycle of dbol and no pct. he looked awesome about 200 lbs at 5 10 maybe 10% bf. lost all of it obviously cause he quit workin out when he came off the dbol. my friend never fuckin eats bro, smokes like a chimney weed and cigs, drinks lattes all day, maybe has a protein shake twice a day, 2-3 meals tops. he never shrinks he never bloats always looks the same. he went into rehab and came out looking exactly the same. if you ask him he'll tell you its the winny. he has serious issues with winny and anavar to say the least. he does think they are magical because of the way he is, but i think a lot of it is genetics. he never had to eat a lot to get where he is so he feels like it was the winny and var. for me getting to 205 from 145 like he did would not be possible without taking in 5000 cals for a few years.
sup bruce man you give out all youre k again bro.
 
dugie65 said:
How long is it possible to take anavar without damaging the liver?

A few studies were done on hospitalized patients at a low dosage (70-140mg total EW) for several months with no noticable liver damage, but these studies were also done with children taking many other medications that could be harmful to the liver.

Any one have any clue (or know of any studies) about the range of anavar cycle length that is possible?


You can take var for a very long time, as in years, without "damage" to your liver. It may stress your liver but it's very minor compared to what most people consume in a week to stress their liver. The oxygen molecule added to it (hense oxyandrolone) makes it pass very easily through the liver. However it also means that a lot of it is wasted and never broken down. One reason it's weak.
 
Ulter said:
You can take var for a very long time, as in years, without "damage" to your liver. It may stress your liver but it's very minor compared to what most people consume in a week to stress their liver. The oxygen molecule added to it (hense oxyandrolone) makes it pass very easily through the liver. However it also means that a lot of it is wasted and never broken down. One reason it's weak.


What do you think would yeild better results:

60mg ED for 12 weeks

OR

80mg ED for 8 weeks

This is with a gram a week Primo cycle (12 weeks)
 
black sheep said:
What do you think would yeild better results:

60mg ED for 12 weeks

OR

80mg ED for 8 weeks

This is with a gram a week Primo cycle (12 weeks)
80mg ed for 8 weeks will give insane strength gains, 75mg and up of var does that. however a very knowledgable jacked bro said the magic with var begins week 10 so i'd go with the 12 weeker personally
 
yes it is quite expensive. i can't decide right now if i should get tbol again or go with high dose of var. i have the loot its just tbol worked so good, but my boy is on tbol now and the strength he says is not as intense as the var.
 
One more thing about var: it can shut you down. 50mg ed for 2-3 weeks is all it takes to start shutting me down. So you might want to be prepared to do a full PCT after your var or var/winny cycle.
 
bruce410 said:
80mg ed for 8 weeks will give insane strength gains, 75mg and up of var does that. however a very knowledgable jacked bro said the magic with var begins week 10 so i'd go with the 12 weeker personally

Maybe I will run 80mg for the first 5, and then 40mg for 6 weeks - 11 weeks total..
 
I did a cycle of var/winny oral for 12 weeks all bloodwork came out fine. No liver issues. I think at a moderate dose 30-40mg ed you could take var for a long time with no problems. I would recommend getting your values checked regularly though just in case. I think everyone reacts differently. What is harmless to some might jack others up bad.
 
Care to detail that PCT for us?

djsf said:
One more thing about var: it can shut you down. 50mg ed for 2-3 weeks is all it takes to start shutting me down. So you might want to be prepared to do a full PCT after your var or var/winny cycle.
 
OK now the magic question.
What/Who's Var is he taking??? or has taken?

they say some var is not even var :(

bruce410 said:
yes it is quite expensive. i can't decide right now if i should get tbol again or go with high dose of var. i have the loot its just tbol worked so good, but my boy is on tbol now and the strength he says is not as intense as the var.
 
heavy_duty said:
OK now the magic question.
What/Who's Var is he taking??? or has taken?

they say some var is not even var :(


the only way i can take var is buying the powder and capping my own.......ITS WAY WAY cheaper then buying anyone's tabs......i mean WAY cheaper.....like 5-10% of the price
 
DRRman said:
the only way i can take var is buying the powder and capping my own.......ITS WAY WAY cheaper then buying anyone's tabs......i mean WAY cheaper.....like 5-10% of the price

Yup.. Hense the reason I am sitting on a whole shit pot of 40mg caps ;)
 
galaxy said:
What did your hdl look like?

And my friends swears the magic with var happens at the 10 week mark. Drastic changes in body composition. We shall see tho soon. ;)

bro, I've run a 100mg of var for 14 weeks no problem...I think I'm going to extend to 20 weeks this time along with 25mg proviron ED...
 
swolenole said:
bro, I've run a 100mg of var for 14 weeks no problem...I think I'm going to extend to 20 weeks this time along with 25mg proviron ED...
Proviron got a good write up in the Reference book for positive sexual responses along with giving the body a hard appearance. (pun?)

From what I've read about var ... you can go a long, long time with the liver panels staying within range. Little kids and women have taken it for other health reasons.
 
black sheep said:
Yup.. Hense the reason I am sitting on a whole shit pot of 40mg caps ;)


I was gonna make 20mg caps with mine, but i may try for 50 and take two per day....
 
DRRman said:
can't tell ya for sure...but im getting ready to run 100mg/day for 10 weeks minimum!

Started 100mg a day/ 8 weeks on Monday with 800mg of cyp. I haven't ran over 50mgs a day, it was good at that dose.
 
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