what are your stats, how many cycles have you done. anavar and winny are both very similar, winny is hard on joints and anavar is not, other than that they both have little sides, they are liver toxic but not extremely. winny will fuck up your cholesterol worse than any other aas, but still its relatively side free. tbol imo is way better than winstrol as it gives the strength gains and no joint pain. i would do var or tbol if i were you or stack those the two, winny is really hard on joints and obsolete imo.