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anavar and abdominal fat, interesting article

goku_kakarot77

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got this from another forum

Lovejoy JC, Bray GA, Greeson CS, Klemperer M, Morris J, Partington C, Tulley R. Oral anabolic steroid treatment, but not parenteral androgen treatment, decreases abdominal fat in obese, older men. Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 1995;19(9):614-24.

ABSTRACT

OBJECTIVE: To compare the effects of testosterone enanthate (TE), anabolic steroid (AS) or placebo (PL) on regional fat distribution and health risk factors in obese middle-aged men undergoing weight loss by dietary means. DESIGN: Randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trial, carried out for 9 months with primary assessments at 3 month intervals. Due to adverse blood lipid changes, the AS group was switched from oral oxandrolone (ASOX) to parenteral nandrolone decaoate (ASND) after the 3 month assessment point. SUBJECTS: Thirty healthy, obese men, aged 40-60 years, with serum testosterone (T) levels in the low-normal range (2-5 ng/mL). MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Abdominal fat distribution and thigh muscle volume by CT scan, body composition by dual energy X-ray absorptiometry (DEXA), insulin sensitivity by the Minimal Model method, blood lipids, blood chemistry, blood pressure, thyroid hormones and urological parameters. RESULTS: After 3 months, there was a significantly greater decrease in subcutaneous (SQ) abdominal fat in the ASOX group compared to the TE and PL groups although body weight changes did not differ by treatment group. There was also a tendency for the ASOX group to exhibit greater losses in visceral fat, and the absolute level of visceral fat in this group was significantly lower at 3 months than in the TE and PL groups. There were significant main effects of treatment at 3 months on serum T and free T (increased in the TE group and decreased in the ASOX group) and on thyroid hormone parameters (T4 and t3 resin uptake significantly decreased in the ASOX group compared with the other two groups). There was a significant decrease in HDL-C, and increase in LDL-C in the ASOX group, which led to their being switched to the parenteral nandrolone decanoate (ASND) after 3 months. ASND had opposite effects on visceral fat from ASOX, producing a significant increase from 3 to 9 months while continuing to decrease SQ abdominal fat. ASND treatment also decreased thigh muscle area, while ASOX treatment increased high muscle. ASND reversed the effects of ASOX on lipoproteins and thyroid hormones. The previously reported effect of T to decrease visceral fat was not observed, in fact, visceral fat in the TE group increased slightly from 3 to 9 months, although SQ fat continued to decrease. Neither TE nor AS treatment resulted in any change in urologic parameters. CONCLUSIONS: Oral oxandrolone decreased SQ abdominal fat more than TE or weight loss alone and also tended to produce favorable changes in visceral fat. TE and ASND injections given every 2 weeks had similar effects to weight loss alone on regional body fat. Most of the beneficial effects observed on metabolic and cardiovascular risk factors were due to weight loss per se. These results suggest that SQ and visceral abdominal fat can be independently modulated by androgens and that at least some anabolic steroids are capable of influencing abdominal fat.
 
Ive always said dbol helped remove visceral fat around my abdomen. I think Carth noticed the same.
 
galaxy said:
Ive always said dbol helped remove visceral fat around my abdomen. I think Carth noticed the same.

i believe 8and20 saw the same end result with dbol

interesting read, i saw decent results on var but i want to try another brand

and i also want to run a low dose of dbol either at the end of this cycle or the beginning of the following
 
I just remember on my first cycle...and yes....dbol only cycle....my abs just popped out like bricks.....granted i was lean to begin with....but the dbol just did something that made them even better.....like i said....bricks.

hgh, high doses of test , insulin and 15 yrs later I dont think the effects would be as dramatic but I do have some thais sitting around so we will see.
 
galaxy said:
I just remember on my first cycle...and yes....dbol only cycle....my abs just popped out like bricks.....granted i was lean to begin with....but the dbol just did something that made them even better.....like i said....bricks.

hgh, high doses of test , insulin and 15 yrs later I dont think the effects would be as dramatic but I do have some thais sitting around so we will see.


freinds of mine took dbol and they got hard and vascular, thats wierd


peace
 
var only cycle leaned me up like nothing else.

when the product is legit and the user knows his shit
results are amazing
 
galaxy said:
I just remember on my first cycle...and yes....dbol only cycle....my abs just popped out like bricks.....granted i was lean to begin with....but the dbol just did something that made them even better.....like i said....bricks.

hgh, high doses of test , insulin and 15 yrs later I dont think the effects would be as dramatic but I do have some thais sitting around so we will see.


that cycle of yours must of been ages ago but can you remeber how much dbol you took and how long, and how much you gained?


peace
 
I took 100 dbol over the course of 5 weeks and 3 days. Ramping up from one tab a day to 5 a day and then back down to 1 tab. Went from 172lbs to 188lbs. Stayed at about 185lbs when I was done.

This is also when I discovered to only lift each bodypart once a week and eat 6 times a day. SO its a combination of all 3 things Im sure.
 
galaxy said:
I took 100 dbol over the course of 5 weeks and 3 days. Ramping up from one tab a day to 5 a day and then back down to 1 tab. Went from 172lbs to 188lbs. Stayed at about 185lbs when I was done.

This is also when I discovered to only lift each bodypart once a week and eat 6 times a day. SO its a combination of all 3 things Im sure.
so in other words you didn't experience bloat, but when did you notice it kicking in and how was the strength.. im thinking about it for my next cycle as a jumpstarter

peace
 
Not really but this was a long time ago. I was very busy with lifting, playing basketball, partying....just plain being active
 
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