i was taking it w/ primo 250mg per wk...winni 50mg EOD..and the last 6wks i used 30mg of Var ED.
I got great gains from the primo and winni..I was not looking for huge mass i was just looking for the best keepable hard gains.
The Var i can tell you got me very Vascular and my strength went right through the roof. It was Amazing. I didnt experience bigger pumps..but 3wks in everytime i worked out i felt noticable harder and stronger. If the stuff wasnt so much money i would of kept on going. Next time i get var i am going to run it long and w/ out any other 17-AA products
PwrHouse
PS. I will be taking BF measurments soon and hope to have a couple pics up.