**Anabolic INFORMATION: The Standard Cycle, By Ross!**

[Ross]

Chapter 2

**The STANDARD Cycle**



A PERFECT CYCLE CONSISTS OF *BOTH*, SLOW AND FAST-ACTING STEROIDS!

In most cases, a LONG-esterfied injectable steroid such as Testosterone Enanthate would function as the BASE of the cycle, providing slow but consistent gains throughout the entire cycle's duration.

A SHORT-acting steroid is used in either the BEGINNING of a cycle or at the END of a cycle. Typically, Dianabol and Anadrol are used at the beginning of a cycle to provide STRENGTH and MASS gains BEFORE the base(and/or secondary injectable) "KICK IN". A FAST-ACTING stroid such as Anavar or Winstrol is used at the END of a cycle and RIGHT UP UNTIL post cycle therapy, while the LONG-acting steroid SLOWLY exits the system.


An optimal cycle contains several components:


1.) A Base: This is the usually the most powerful compound in the stack, and it is typically ran throughout the entire duration of the cycle. Most individuals will choose Testosterone for a base, but for those uncomfortable using testosterone; Trenbolone, Equipoise, Masteron, and even Primobolan can be used instead. In your case, the base will be testosterone Enanthate.


2.) The JUMPSTARTER: This compound must be FAST-ACTING, so as to generate muscle and strength gains BEFORE YOUR BASE AND YOUR ASSISTANT KICK IN. Jumpstarting usually applies to BULKING cycles, but they can be used effectively in CUTTING cycles as well. Dianabol and Anadrol are the most popular steroids for JUMPSTARTING a cycle, because they both induce incredible strength and mass in a very short period of time; but it important to note that there are MANY other drugs that can be used for this purpose that are usually overlooked. Halotestin at 30-40mgs will provide ENORMOUS strength at the beginning of your cycle, making it GREAT to jumpstart BULKING cycles AND CUTTING cycles. Injectable Winstrol can ALSO be used to jumpstart BULKING CYCLES and CUTTING CYCLES. The Oral is too weak to act as an effective JUMPSTARTER. I would say the same for Anavar and Turinabol. Trenbolone Acetate and Testosterone Propionate(or suspension) are also very popular choices used to jumpstart BULKING cycles. You will be using Dianabol as your JUMPSTARTER.


3.) The FINISHER: A FAST-acting steroid MUST BE UTILIZED at the end of your cycle's duration! You MUST remain ANABOLIC right up until post cycle therapy! If you FAIL to use a fast-acting steroid such as Winstrol or Oxandrolone during your FINAL weeks while your BASE and your ASSISTANT leave your system, you will LOSE GAINS BEFORE YOU EVEN BEGIN post cycle therapy. This is one of the BIGGEST mistakes people make. Test E will not leave your system for at LEAST 3 weeks after your FINAL SHOT. Therefore, you MUST remain anabolic during these 3 weeks when your adrogen levels PLUMMET! You will be using Winstrol Inject as your Finisher.


*) The Assistant: This compound is ran alongside the BASE for the majority of the cycle, providing a synergistic effect throughout it's duration. Most people will choose either Deca or Equipoise, usually using testosterone as the base. Trenbolone, Masteron, and Primobolan also make great Assistants. You will be using Deca as your Assiatant.


Failure to uitlize ANY of the 3 ESSENTIAL COMPONENTS will result in a cycle that is LESS THAN OPTIMAL.*

For an intermediate or advanced user, a SECONDARY ANABOLIC called the "assistant" should be added for OPTIMAL results.



Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 30mgs ED (Jumpstarter)
Weeks 1-10: Test E, 500mgs (Base)
Weeks 1-10: Deca, 400mg (Assistant)
Weeks 10-14: Winstrol Inject, 75mgs ED (Finisher)


The Standard Cycle is designed for OPTIMUM anabolism, utilizing precise strategies in order to gain and sustain the most muscle possible!

 

[dabuffguy]

Good post. I agree with all of that and actual follow the same process, but I haven't used an "ASSISTANT" yet.

 

[Ross]

Good post. I agree with all of that and actual follow the same process, but I haven't used an "ASSISTANT" yet.

Thanks man.

What was your last cycle, if I may ask?

 

[GUARDIAN]

y r u not running test 2 weeks longer than deca?

 

[sensational]

Good post and gives a simple and straightforward way to build an effective cycle.

 

[Ross]

Good post and gives a simple and straightforward way to build an effective cycle.

That is precisely WHY we use a FINISHER.

 

[Ross]

Good post and gives a simple and straightforward way to build an effective cycle.

Thank you.

 

[argyll1]

Chapter 2

**The STANDARD Cycle**



A PERFECT CYCLE CONSISTS OF *BOTH*, SLOW AND FAST-ACTING STEROIDS!

In most cases, a LONG-esterfied injectable steroid such as Testosterone Enanthate would function as the BASE of the cycle, providing slow but consistent gains throughout the entire cycle's duration.

A SHORT-acting steroid is used in either the BEGINNING of a cycle or at the END of a cycle. Typically, Dianabol and Anadrol are used at the beginning of a cycle to provide STRENGTH and MASS gains BEFORE the base(and/or secondary injectable) "KICK IN". A FAST-ACTING stroid such as Anavar or Winstrol is used at the END of a cycle and RIGHT UP UNTIL post cycle therapy, while the LONG-acting steroid SLOWLY exits the system.


An optimal cycle contains several components:


1.) A Base: This is the usually the most powerful compound in the stack, and it is typically ran throughout the entire duration of the cycle. Most individuals will choose Testosterone for a base, but for those uncomfortable using testosterone; Trenbolone, Equipoise, Masteron, and even Primobolan can be used instead. In your case, the base will be testosterone Enanthate.


2.) The JUMPSTARTER: This compound must be FAST-ACTING, so as to generate muscle and strength gains BEFORE YOUR BASE AND YOUR ASSISTANT KICK IN. Jumpstarting usually applies to BULKING cycles, but they can be used effectively in CUTTING cycles as well. Dianabol and Anadrol are the most popular steroids for JUMPSTARTING a cycle, because they both induce incredible strength and mass in a very short period of time; but it important to note that there are MANY other drugs that can be used for this purpose that are usually overlooked. Halotestin at 30-40mgs will provide ENORMOUS strength at the beginning of your cycle, making it GREAT to jumpstart BULKING cycles AND CUTTING cycles. Injectable Winstrol can ALSO be used to jumpstart BULKING CYCLES and CUTTING CYCLES. The Oral is too weak to act as an effective JUMPSTARTER. I would say the same for Anavar and Turinabol. Trenbolone Acetate and Testosterone Propionate(or suspension) are also very popular choices used to jumpstart BULKING cycles. You will be using Dianabol as your JUMPSTARTER.


3.) The FINISHER: A FAST-acting steroid MUST BE UTILIZED at the end of your cycle's duration! You MUST remain ANABOLIC right up until post cycle therapy! If you FAIL to use a fast-acting steroid such as Winstrol or Oxandrolone during your FINAL weeks while your BASE and your ASSISTANT leave your system, you will LOSE GAINS BEFORE YOU EVEN BEGIN post cycle therapy. This is one of the BIGGEST mistakes people make. Test E will not leave your system for at LEAST 3 weeks after your FINAL SHOT. Therefore, you MUST remain anabolic during these 3 weeks when your adrogen levels PLUMMET! You will be using Winstrol Inject as your Finisher.


*) The Assistant: This compound is ran alongside the BASE for the majority of the cycle, providing a synergistic effect throughout it's duration. Most people will choose either Deca or Equipoise, usually using testosterone as the base. Trenbolone, Masteron, and Primobolan also make great Assistants. You will be using Deca as your Assiatant.


Failure to uitlize ANY of the 3 ESSENTIAL COMPONENTS will result in a cycle that is LESS THAN OPTIMAL.*

For an intermediate or advanced user, a SECONDARY ANABOLIC called the "assistant" should be added for OPTIMAL results.



Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 30mgs ED (Jumpstarter)
Weeks 1-10: Test E, 500mgs (Base)
Weeks 1-10: Deca, 400mg (Assistant)
Weeks 10-14: Winstrol Inject, 75mgs ED (Finisher)


The Standard Cycle is designed for OPTIMUM anabolism, utilizing precise strategies in order to gain and sustain the most muscle possible!

Great advice. Thanks

 

[Ross]

Great advice. Thanks

 

[Ross]

y r u not running test 2 weeks longer than deca?

This is why we utilize a FINISHER instead

 

[GUARDIAN]

This is why we utilize a FINISHER instead

I see. So u feel these finisher compounds are enuf to counteract any libido issues from deca?

 

[Ross]

I see. So u feel these finisher compounds are enuf to counteract any libido issues from deca?

You can run Deca 2 weeks past the testosterone if you so choose.

 

[xrsist]

You can run Deca 2 weeks past the testosterone if you so choose.

?? why would one do this if they were having deca libido problems?

 

[thebadguy54]

I think he meant run the test two weeks past the deca.

 

[GUARDIAN]

You can run Deca 2 weeks past the testosterone if you so choose.

did u mean test 2 weeks longer?

 

[Ross]

did u mean test 2 weeks longer?

Yes, typing too fast

 

[Ross]

I think he meant run the test two weeks past the deca.

 

[muscleup]

In my opinion this is an advanced cycle....IMO a standard cycle should consist of no more than 2 compounds, and should not exceed anymore that 500-750mgs total. I hope no new guys are looking at this and thinking this is a conservative cycle.

 

[Ross]

In my opinion this is an advanced cycle....IMO a standard cycle should consist of no more than 2 compounds, and should not exceed anymore that 500-750mgs total. I hope no new guys are looking at this and thinking this is a conservative cycle.

This is a highly debated topic, but I think that it is dogmatic to believe that a NEWBIE should not run a PROPER cycle, for any reason. A PROPER cycle *MUST contain a Base, a Jumpstarter, and a Finisher. Testosterone ONLY is not a cycle...

Newbie Cycle

Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 25mgs ED (Jumpstarter)
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 250mgs (Base)
Weeks 8-12: Winstrol, 50mgs ED (Finisher)

 

[GUARDIAN]

i think sus is a waste at such a low dose. u dont even utilize the prop. it should be saved for "bigger" cycles and ran eod.

 

[xrsist]

This is a highly debated topic, but I think that it is dogmatic to believe that a NEWBIE should not run a PROPER cycle, for any reason. A PROPER cycle *MUST contain a Base, a Jumpstarter, and a Finisher. Testosterone ONLY is not a cycle...

Newbie Cycle

Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 25mgs ED (Jumpstarter)
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 250mgs (Base)
Weeks 8-12: Winstrol, 50mgs ED (Finisher)

why run this much gear as a newbie when a newbie can run half as much and make the same amount of gains?

 

[Ross]

why run this much gear as a newbie when a newbie can run half as much and make the same amount of gains?

Those are all minimum dosages guys. This is a PROPER cycle.

Check out some transformation pics:

This was me at 21 years old, 175lbs/8% BF, right before starting my first cycle ever.

Here is me 5 months ago, 225lbs/7% BF age 25:

Here is a pic from 06, at about 200lbs:

 

[GUARDIAN]

what makes u think they are the minimum doses?

Those are all minimum dosages guys. This is a PROPER cycle.

Check out some transformation pics:

This was me at 21 years old, 175lbs/8% BF, right before starting my first cycle ever.

Here is me 5 months ago, 225lbs/7% BF age 25:

 

[Ross]

Because THEY ARE THE MINIMUM EFFECTIVE DOSAGES for each compound:

Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 25mgs ED (Jumpstarter)
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 250mgs (Base)
Weeks 8-12: Winstrol, 50mgs ED (Finisher)

On a Testosterone ONLY cycle, in 10 weeks you will gain 20lbs and you will be lucky if you keep 10lbs after all said and done, 8 weeks AFTER your PCT is complete.

If a newbie runs the PROPER cycle I outlined above, he will have tremendous SUSTAINABLE gains in lean muscle mass, strength, and hardness.

 

[Ross]

i think sus is a waste at such a low dose. u dont even utilize the prop. it should be saved for "bigger" cycles and ran eod.

This is dogmatic nonsense, no offense. Unless you are using 1000mgs of testosterone weekly, 1 inject or 2 biweekly injects is perfect.

I am an advanced bodybuilder and I use 1 SHOT of Sustanon weekly(250mgs) as the BASE of all of my cycles, I no longer use Enanthate or Cypionate, and rarely even use Propionate or Suspension anymore. I RARELY use 500mgs, and I experience GREATER EFFECTS and LESS SIDES with Sustanon than with any other ester.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Ross, with your genetics, had I trained you, you could have looked as good in 4 years without ever touching gear.

 

[Ross]

Ross, with your genetics, had I trained you, you could have looked as good in 4 years without ever touching gear.

Nelson, I BUSTED MY ASS NATURALLY from age 16 to 21. I went from 130lbs to 175lbs during that time, there was NO WAY I was getting past 175lbs naturally; I may have great genetics for shape and low bodyfat, but gaining MASS has always been a tremendous STRUGGLE for me.

I am a serious ectomorph, I have very thin bones and a TINY FRAME. My waist is 28 inches.

I appreciate the compliment though, maybe we can meet up sometime soon and have some fun

 

[GUARDIAN]

This is dogmatic nonsense, no offense. Unless you are using 1000mgs of testosterone weekly, 1 inject or 2 biweekly injects is perfect.

I am an advanced bodybuilder and I use 1 SHOT of Sustanon weekly(250mgs) as the BASE of all of my cycles, I no longer use Enanthate or Cypionate, and rarely even use Propionate or Suspension anymore. I RARELY use 500mgs, and I experience GREATER EFFECTS and LESS SIDES with Sustanon than with any other ester.

but that was my point about the sus. unless u r using 750-1g a week where it makes sense to shoot eod and take full advantage of the prop and hence not need a jumpstart. it is a waste. that is not opinion how can u refute the fact that the prop is wasted?

u r wasting the prop and u know it. assuming the prop is 50mg of the 250mg and has a half life of 2 days then u r really only benefitting from it on injection day(s). u might as well just shoot 200mg of cyp if thats what u want to do.

 

[GUARDIAN]

Dogmatic

Because THEY ARE THE MINIMUM EFFECTIVE DOSAGES for each compound:

Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 25mgs ED (Jumpstarter)
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 250mgs (Base)
Weeks 8-12: Winstrol, 50mgs ED (Finisher)

On a Testosterone ONLY cycle, in 10 weeks you will gain 20lbs and you will be lucky if you keep 10lbs after all said and done, 8 weeks AFTER your PCT is complete.

If a newbie runs the PROPER cycle I outlined above, he will have tremendous SUSTAINABLE gains in lean muscle mass, strength, and hardness.

 

[Tatyana]

Nelson, I BUSTED MY ASS NATURALLY from age 16 to 21. I went from 130lbs to 175lbs during that time, there was NO WAY I was getting past 175lbs naturally; I may have great genetics for shape and low bodyfat, but gaining MASS has always been a tremendous STRUGGLE for me.

I am a serious ectomorph, I have very thin bones and a TINY FRAME. My waist is 28 inches.

I appreciate the compliment though, maybe we can meet up sometime soon and have some fun

Have you ever seen a puppy grow up? They go from being all lean and skinny and then filling out.

That's what men do from ages 14-24.

Also, I thought you had great genetics? Or are you an ectomorph?

Ectomorph is not usually associated with great genetics for BBing, distance running yes.

I have heard you claim both things now in a matter of a week.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson, I BUSTED MY ASS NATURALLY from age 16 to 21. I went from 130lbs to 175lbs during that time, there was NO WAY I was getting past 175lbs naturally;

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I DON'T DOUBT YOU BUSTED YOUR ASS AND YOU MADE GREAT GAINS, BUT AT 21 YOU'RE STILL GROWING. PEOPLE GO FROM 135 TO 165 WITHOUT EVEN TRAINING. IF YOU MADE GAINS LIKE THAT AS A TEENAGER YOU HAD A LOT MORE LEFT IN YOU IMO. YOU CAN NOT SAY YOU CAPPED OUT AT AGE 21.


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I may have great genetics for shape and low bodyfat, but gaining MASS has always been a tremendous STRUGGLE for me.

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HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT WHEN YOU STARTED USING GEAR SO SOON?



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I am a serious ectomorph, I have very thin bones and a TINY FRAME. My waist is 28 inches.

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WITH GREAT MUSCLE BELLIES AND DENSITY. YOU GOT THE GENETICS BRO, I JUST THINK YOU DIDN'T CAPITILIZE ON THEM TO THEIR FULLEST. YOU ADMITTED HAVING A T LEVEL OVER 1800. THAT'S FREAKISH BRO. NO WAY WERE YOU FINISHED WITH THAT ADVANTAGE. HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU COULD HAVE DONE AND HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THE GEAR DID? IT WAS TOO SOON. HOW CAN YOU KNOW WHAT SUPPLEMENTS ARE EFFECTIVE? I HAVE SHITTY GENETICS AND I WENT FROM 150 TO 180 NATURALLY AT AGE 38.


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I appreciate the compliment though, maybe we can meet up sometime soon and have some fun
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MAYBE.

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[Tatyana]

Because THEY ARE THE MINIMUM EFFECTIVE DOSAGES for each compound:

Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 25mgs ED (Jumpstarter)
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 250mgs (Base)
Weeks 8-12: Winstrol, 50mgs ED (Finisher)

On a Testosterone ONLY cycle, in 10 weeks you will gain 20lbs and you will be lucky if you keep 10lbs after all said and done, 8 weeks AFTER your PCT is complete.

If a newbie runs the PROPER cycle I outlined above, he will have tremendous SUSTAINABLE gains in lean muscle mass, strength, and hardness.

Where did you find the information for minimal effective doses?

I have the British National Formulary (all the drugs that can be prescribed in the UK) in front of me now, opened to the 'testosterone and esters' page.



For sustanon 250 (Organon)
test prop 20 mg
test phenylpropionate 40 mg
test isocaproate 60 mg
testosterone decanoate 100 mg/ml




DOSE: By deep intramuscular injection, androgen deficiency 1 ml usually every 3 weeks

That is what the medical community uses for medical purposes, so it would be effective at that dose.

They also have Nandralone/Deca listed, 50 mg every three weeks




Considering the variable response to steroids, the different number of androgen receptors, the variability in digestion, absorption, uptake, p450 cytochrome systems, how you can claim to know the 'effective doses'?

So very little actual research has been done, most of the dosing has been due to trial and error with gym rats and bodybuilders.

I am very curious to know what you did study.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

why run this much gear as a newbie when a newbie can run half as much and make the same amount of gains?

X you know i got your back always on here but I just did the math. It starts out at 425mg/wk which isnt really that much gear. And 600/wk which is boarder line too much IMO.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Because THEY ARE THE MINIMUM EFFECTIVE DOSAGES for each compound:

Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 25mgs ED (Jumpstarter)
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 250mgs (Base)
Weeks 8-12: Winstrol, 50mgs ED (Finisher)

On a Testosterone ONLY cycle, in 10 weeks you will gain 20lbs and you will be lucky if you keep 10lbs after all said and done, 8 weeks AFTER your PCT is complete.

If a newbie runs the PROPER cycle I outlined above, he will have tremendous SUSTAINABLE gains in lean muscle mass, strength, and hardness.

10lbs of muscle in 12 weeks that one keeps is pretty good if ya ask me. And you lower your risk of any added sides from adding extra compunds.


I have rad and heard that duchaine said 10mg D-boll was plenty to grow on.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Nelson, I BUSTED MY ASS NATURALLY from age 16 to 21. I went from 130lbs to 175lbs during that time, there was NO WAY I was getting past 175lbs naturally; I may have great genetics for shape and low bodyfat, but gaining MASS has always been a tremendous STRUGGLE for me.

I am a serious ectomorph, I have very thin bones and a TINY FRAME. My waist is 28 inches.

I appreciate the compliment though, maybe we can meet up sometime soon and have some fun

Holy E-Flirt!!!!

lol

 

[Tatyana]

I was thinking about this whole steroid cycle thing, and if I was a lad and wanted to juice I think I would take a very logical approach

1. Use as little as possible. If I could grow of a little then it would save me money and minimise sides, avoid having to take a lot of PCT or anti-Es or any of those other drugs for sides.

2. Most of you love juicing, and so many of you want to juice for life and/or then go on HRT, I would also keep the doses as low as possible so they would be as effective as possible for as long as possible.

I guess it is sort of like once you do the biggest cycle, where do you go from there?

I know of one chap on a board who has been on 600-750 mg/test/week from the ages of 18-28, and 4 IUs of growth for the last three.

He looks good now, but it is so much easier to look good and make gains when you are that age.

What is he going to do when he hits 40?



3. Start with one compound, and I would probably eventually try a few, just to see how my body responded to the various formulations of test.

4. Make sure my training and diet were bang on and effective.
I know how to train and diet now, but it took me quite a few years to figure it out. AND I am still learning things all the time now.

5. I would run shorter cycles, probably nothing more than 6-10 weeks.

I know what I am like with even taking supplements on a consistent regular basis, and there are times I can't be bothered, forget, or just get really annoyed with taking them.

I can't imagine having to stick a needle in my butt for a long period of time and be really consistent about it.

6. Make sure I have bloodwork done before I started taking anything, and probably more than once (winter and summer for example) so I would have an idea of what was normal for me.

That's just me though, I think it makes sense.