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Am I crazy/dangerous?
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Robert Jan
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I'm intelligent and can figure shit out, but I'm so rational... sometimes I just think like a computer. Reasoning only works when it has a foundation, some kind of inchangable assumption it is based on. In Math every theorem is a conclusion that can be proven by pre-existing theorems.
In morality, decision making, the first, starting point, is that human life is valuable.
I have no first theorem, no fundamental truth, that I can reason from.
In morality, decision making, the first, starting point, is that human life is valuable.
I have no first theorem, no fundamental truth, that I can reason from.
Bulldog_10
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Y_Lifter said:
I tend to think to the future too much I think...but who doesn't. No one really lives every day as if it were their last. We all wish we could, but it's just not gonna happen. I'm gonna try though...after I graduate from school
Robert Jan
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Y_Lifter said:
I look forward to things and I enjoy things. I look forward to persuing my goals and enjoying "love" and "friendship" and art and sex and whatnot. I'm not depressed.
I put the "" because I guess those words hold no real meaning to somebody with no beliefs in even human value
I like stuff, I just dont know if it even matters that I like stuff. I keep living life because I figure it is the best guess. Its probably nonsense but it cant do no harm to live it.
GoldenDelicious
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danger is relative. you sound more dangerous than the average guy, but you dont sound sociopathic. i could conceivably kill many many people if i thought it would benefit me, that i could get away with it, and it was in accord with the rest of my beliefs.
Robert Jan
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Bulldog_10 said:I tend to think to the future too much I think...but who doesn't. No one really lives every day as if it were their last. We all wish we could, but it's just not gonna happen. I'm gonna try though...after I graduate from school
I tried that once, living as though every day was my last. It was a fucking crappy day, I'm not doing that again. You have no idea how much you need to take care of... who will come to the ceremony... etc.
Y_lifter
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Robert Jan said:
Keeping religion out of this...
I feel that the starting point for morality decisions would be that the decision ultimately will likely effect ME in some way..
So, how valuable do I feel MY life is as will be impacted by this decision?
Sure it may effect others LIVES, but really it should start with MY LIFE, as it is mine to do with as I feel.. And How do I feel ?
Robert Jan
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The whole point is I'm stuck in a paradoxal loop of meaninglessness. I dont even really believe my own happiness has value, I just persue it because its my gamble, my guess that that is what to do.
I dont believe in God but I dont believe I know for a fact he is not real either.
However if a God does exist, why does it matter what he thinks about what I do?
Why does it even matter if I got to hell for eternity?
Why does anything matter? and if it does, why does it matter that it does?
you get the idea
I dont believe in God but I dont believe I know for a fact he is not real either.
However if a God does exist, why does it matter what he thinks about what I do?
Why does it even matter if I got to hell for eternity?
Why does anything matter? and if it does, why does it matter that it does?
you get the idea
Robert Jan
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Y_Lifter said:
I disagree. Morality is whether or not you are doing the right thing with your life, that you "should" do.
what you are describing isnt morality thats just being self preserving and practical in your ways
IhateOsama
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You sound like you a typical blood thirsty European.
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