Alright EF women advice needed on dating

[EnderJE]

That's what I do and I'm 36 and single.....you decide......

You just haven't found the right one. You know, the non-crazy, non-religious, non-slutty one.

 

[heatherrae]

ok, let me break it down for you.

its pretty obvious why you are encountering the women you have been encountering in the past.

you're setting a horrible tone. the dinners, the flowers.

That's not a good first date IMHO, ever. why? Because you set the tone that you're a provider first, not a lover. It's a magnet for gold diggers. i've never had a good outcome when taking out a girl to dinner on the first date. they always try to hold back the punani and make me a relationship type/their bitch. no matter what. get them sexually interested in you first, relationship can develop from there if you wish to. You lose all your power doing this

2nd of all, flowers on a first date are not genuine. it's a subtle manipulation that most men don't even realize. They think they're being "nice", but they're not. you're trying to win her approval via gifts. make her earn it.


take a step back...do something fun and silly on a first date, or just meet up for drinks somewhere. get to know that person without breaking the bank.

dinner can come later


far as calling, it doesn't really matter. maybe you send them a little text or whatever. as long as you're not up there ass. if you had a genuinely good time, theres no problem with calling the next day. but it had to have been real, otherwise you're blowing smoke up their ass and look like a needy vag

LOL @ all this retarded machismo

 

[calveless wonder]

LOL @ all this retarded machismo

hi jaded one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

where's your buy her a GPS advice?

 

[heatherrae]

If you find a lady that you are interested in ,how shoud you proceed.
1st date: flowers , dinner let her kiss you and thank her for the evening?

Should you call them the next day or what?

Take it from there to keep mystery romance in the equation leading up to the big night (first sexual encounter)?

Dinner and flowers on the first date is a gentlemanly touch. I think more of men who show that they made some effort like that. A kiss and mutual thank you's and a brief call the next day is great, too.

If the girl doesn't appreciate that sort of behavior, she probably has low self esteem. A woman who values herself and her time will appreciate that you have shown that you value her, too.

 

[javaguru]

You just haven't found the right one. You know, the non-crazy, non-religious, non-slutty one.

There comes a time in a man's life when he realizes they're all fucking nuts...

 

[javaguru]

Dinner and flowers on the first date is a gentlemanly touch. I think more of men who show that they made some effort like that. A kiss and mutual thank you's and a brief call the next day is great, too.

If the girl doesn't appreciate that sort of behavior, she probably has low self esteem. A woman who values herself and her time will appreciate that you have shown that you value her, too.

LOL @ HR giving dating advice....how is baby daddy?

 

[blueta2]

Dinner and flowers on the first date is a gentlemanly touch. I think more of men who show that they made some effort like that. A kiss and mutual thank you's and a brief call the next day is great, too.

If the girl doesn't appreciate that sort of behavior, she probably has low self esteem. A woman who values herself and her time will appreciate that you have shown that you value her, too.

I don't appreciate it and I do not have low self esteem......try again

 

[calveless wonder]

i love how everyone woman on this thread sans blueta and maybeee velv (her advice was so vague, so cant classify) completely proved puddle and mine's point

LOL @ java you beat me to it

 

[silverstar1025]

i love how everyone woman on this thread sans blueta and maybeee velv (her advice was so vague, so cant classify) completely proved puddle and mine's point

LOL @ java you beat me to it

Ahem.. I fucked on the first date without fllowers. All he had to do was touch me in my naughty places.

 

[blueta2]

I think woman who need a man to show he's making an "effort" are the one's with the low self esteem no?
If one needs a guy to show her she's important and special by making an effort, then that women doesn't feel important and special on her own w/out the "effort"