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thanks brotha, i appreciate it...
thanks brotha, i appreciate it...
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bro, at this point in time you are too young and do not need to be thinking about these kinds of things... i cannot advise someone of your age because it would not be good advise... the best advise i can give you is to get the most out of training natty you can because you have many good years ahead of you to get the most out of your natty gains that you can...
bro, at this point in time you are too young and do not need to be thinking about these kinds of things... i cannot advise someone of your age because it would not be good advise... the best advise i can give you is to get the most out of training natty you can because you have many good years ahead of you to get the most out of your natty gains that you can...
1armedscissor
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Are SARMS ok for ladies? Specifically GW, my girl wants to lose some weight and she liked the results of my triple stack I did recently. If they're ok could you set up a cycle for her?
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yes they are okay for ladies, in less dosage of course... what are her goals and stats...
yes they are okay for ladies, in less dosage of course... what are her goals and stats...
1armedscissor
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She's 5'2", 24 yrs, and weight about 140(I like thick women, don't judge me,haha). She used to swim a lot and wants to get back in it. I think if she had something to boost up weight loss she wouldn't get so discouraged.
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Is it safe to run a triple SARMS plus AICAR for 90 days or do I have to cut it at 60 days? Could I run GW and AICAR for 90 days and cut off the SARMS and add in Anavar about 50 days in and run it for 50 days? I would love to run the SARMS the whole 90 days but won't if it is counter productive to do so. I haven't been able to find any info on how long you can run the SARMS or AICAR
Here are my 2 scenarios:
Triple SARMS stack - AICAR - HGH Frag 176-191 for 90 days:
S4 - 50 mg day
Osta - 25 mg day
GW - 10 mg day
AICAR - 20 mg EOD
HGH Frag - 200mcg daily before AM cardio
Scenario 2
60 days
S4 - 50 mg day
Osta - 25 mg day
GW - 10 mg day
AICAR - 20 mg EOD
HGH Frag - 200mcg daily before AM cardio
Anavar starting day 50 @ 50mg daily for 50 days
Is it safe to run a triple SARMS plus AICAR for 90 days or do I have to cut it at 60 days? Could I run GW and AICAR for 90 days and cut off the SARMS and add in Anavar about 50 days in and run it for 50 days? I would love to run the SARMS the whole 90 days but won't if it is counter productive to do so. I haven't been able to find any info on how long you can run the SARMS or AICAR
Here are my 2 scenarios:
Triple SARMS stack - AICAR - HGH Frag 176-191 for 90 days:
S4 - 50 mg day
Osta - 25 mg day
GW - 10 mg day
AICAR - 20 mg EOD
HGH Frag - 200mcg daily before AM cardio
Scenario 2
60 days
S4 - 50 mg day
Osta - 25 mg day
GW - 10 mg day
AICAR - 20 mg EOD
HGH Frag - 200mcg daily before AM cardio
Anavar starting day 50 @ 50mg daily for 50 days
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to each his own bro! lolll
she could try an running osta and gw... 12.5 mg a day of osta and 10-20 mg a day of gw...
to each his own bro! lolll
she could try an running osta and gw... 12.5 mg a day of osta and 10-20 mg a day of gw...
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i would only do 8 weeks sarms... have you ran hgh frag before?
why the anavar in this though? you should save it for something else... run the sarms cycle for 8 weeks, then do the 3 week mini pct and then you can start anavar and whatever else you want to run with it...
i would only do 8 weeks sarms... have you ran hgh frag before?
why the anavar in this though? you should save it for something else... run the sarms cycle for 8 weeks, then do the 3 week mini pct and then you can start anavar and whatever else you want to run with it...
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I have not done the Frag yet. I would prefer to do the 90 day SARMS/AICAR cycle and not do any gear til next year. My program is laid out to run from Sept 17 - Dec 15 so running the all SARMS would be my preference. Fat loss is paramount and lean muscle is always welcome. My diet is super tight and I do at least 5 miles fasted cardio 6 days a week. Again, my biggest concern is that after a certain point, SARMS and AICAR hit a point of diminishing return but I can't find any real info on that.
I have not done the Frag yet. I would prefer to do the 90 day SARMS/AICAR cycle and not do any gear til next year. My program is laid out to run from Sept 17 - Dec 15 so running the all SARMS would be my preference. Fat loss is paramount and lean muscle is always welcome. My diet is super tight and I do at least 5 miles fasted cardio 6 days a week. Again, my biggest concern is that after a certain point, SARMS and AICAR hit a point of diminishing return but I can't find any real info on that.
You should only run the stack for 8 weeks... run your mini pct and you will be good to go quickly...
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1armedscissor
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Does she need a PCT? And for how long should she run it? Thanks for the help.
Phishtribe
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Is there any need for pct with gw? And is it ok for a girl? Also what would be recomended for a girl to run s4. Can they just run it as stand alone?
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have her run osta for 4 weeks and gw for 8 ... no pct for her...
have her run osta for 4 weeks and gw for 8 ... no pct for her...
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i always have girls run 4 weeks cycles with no pct... she can run s4...
i would run a pct with gw if you run it for an extended period of time
i always have girls run 4 weeks cycles with no pct... she can run s4...
i would run a pct with gw if you run it for an extended period of time
freakshow85
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Tip: Keep your bottles upright. I lost about half a bottle of my S4. I always keep them sitting up right, but hide them in a small box. Guess the S4 fell over at some point and leaked out a good amount. I could tell they leaked a little because my bottles were always oily, but damn, I'll be placing an order for some more, which won't ship til Monday if I'm lucky, and I'll be out Monday lol. Live and learn.
Tip: Keep your bottles upright. I lost about half a bottle of my S4. I always keep them sitting up right, but hide them in a small box. Guess the S4 fell over at some point and leaked out a good amount. I could tell they leaked a little because my bottles were always oily, but damn, I'll be placing an order for some more, which won't ship til Monday if I'm lucky, and I'll be out Monday lol. Live and learn.
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you definitely want to avoid any wastage on these and so storage is very important
you definitely want to avoid any wastage on these and so storage is very important
1armedscissor
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Awesome thanks Dylan.
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Dylan,
I will finish a 12 week sust 250 cycle at 500 mg/week with ancillaries on 9/20/12. I will start my PCT 3 weeks later which looks like:
15-18 clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
15-18 Unleashed/post cycle combo
15-18 daa
15-18 forma stanzol
I have a CrossFit competition the weekend I start my PCT
How could I best utilize SARMS in this scenario? Would a short term GW dose help? If so how would I dose it.
I believe I need to wait until PCT is over to start a SARMS stack but Ostarine is acceptable if not recommended but how could I incorporate that and when.
Thank you for your assistance once again.
Dylan,
I will finish a 12 week sust 250 cycle at 500 mg/week with ancillaries on 9/20/12. I will start my PCT 3 weeks later which looks like:
15-18 clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
15-18 Unleashed/post cycle combo
15-18 daa
15-18 forma stanzol
I have a CrossFit competition the weekend I start my PCT
How could I best utilize SARMS in this scenario? Would a short term GW dose help? If so how would I dose it.
I believe I need to wait until PCT is over to start a SARMS stack but Ostarine is acceptable if not recommended but how could I incorporate that and when.
Thank you for your assistance once again.
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you can run osta in pct if you like but not gw... after pct you can start a sarms stack... it depends on if you want to run a triple stack or just osta and gw... you will dose gw twice a day... 10 mg a day... 5 mg in the a.m. and 5 mg twelve hours later...
you can run osta in pct if you like but not gw... after pct you can start a sarms stack... it depends on if you want to run a triple stack or just osta and gw... you will dose gw twice a day... 10 mg a day... 5 mg in the a.m. and 5 mg twelve hours later...
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Dylan,
currently running the katana/helladrol stack, all the threads i read on sarms keeping gains made me want to incorporate osta in pct,so i orderd some from ss
i tweaked my pct a bit to look like this
7-10 clomid 25/25/25/25
7-12 unleashed dosed
7-10 forged post cycle
3-10 forma stanzol, (question on dosing on this one, is it better to run 3 pumps am and pm on cycle and ramp to five for first two weeks of pct and then ramp down again, im only on first week of my cycle, so i have not started it yet)
1-10 hcgenerate
1- forever because its awesome n2slin
7-10 lean extreme
7-12 osta 15mg ed
what do you think on that one, i only bought one bottle of osta
Dylan,
currently running the katana/helladrol stack, all the threads i read on sarms keeping gains made me want to incorporate osta in pct,so i orderd some from ss
i tweaked my pct a bit to look like this
7-10 clomid 25/25/25/25
7-12 unleashed dosed
7-10 forged post cycle
3-10 forma stanzol, (question on dosing on this one, is it better to run 3 pumps am and pm on cycle and ramp to five for first two weeks of pct and then ramp down again, im only on first week of my cycle, so i have not started it yet)
1-10 hcgenerate
1- forever because its awesome n2slin
7-10 lean extreme
7-12 osta 15mg ed
what do you think on that one, i only bought one bottle of osta
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run forma 10 pumps a day...
everything else looks fine...
you can run a sarms stack after pct...
run forma 10 pumps a day...
everything else looks fine...
you can run a sarms stack after pct...
I'm on GW at the moment only been on it a week and leaning out and feel good(Might be a pacebo) got a bottle of s4 here aswell ,should I add this as not to lose to much muscle?? Was thinking of adding it when my GW is finished in 3 weeks, what you think?? Or I could get mk 2866 ??
Thanks again sarm lovers
Thanks again sarm lovers
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i would have ran them all three together right from the start... you could do an 8 week cycle... running them for only 3-4 weeks is cutting it too short... i would get both osta and s4 and start them as soon as you have them both... i would continue to run gw with them as well...
I'm on GW at the moment only been on it a week and leaning out and feel good(Might be a pacebo) got a bottle of s4 here aswell ,should I add this as not to lose to much muscle?? Was thinking of adding it when my GW is finished in 3 weeks, what you think?? Or I could get mk 2866 ??
Thanks again sarm lovers
i would have ran them all three together right from the start... you could do an 8 week cycle... running them for only 3-4 weeks is cutting it too short... i would get both osta and s4 and start them as soon as you have them both... i would continue to run gw with them as well...
Ok mate thanks got the s4 so will start that now, takes 2/3 days for me to get osta so I'll add that then, the only reason I did it stand alone was of there was any sides I'd know which compound caused it?anyway think I'm good will the GW, thanks again
As I wrote before... do not start s4 until you have mk...
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therhino89
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I have a question about chemicalneed.com products Stane, T-3, and S4. What would be the proper dose for there use alongside 1 bottle of Beastdrol
I have a question about chemicalneed.com products Stane, T-3, and S4. What would be the proper dose for there use alongside 1 bottle of Beastdrol
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i will not advise on t3 because i don't believe its a good product and do not feel it is going to do you any good at all... it eats away at muscle and i just don't feel its a good product...
the stane would be dosed at 12.5 mg eod and s4 would be 50 mg a day... thats a split dose...
25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later...
i will not advise on t3 because i don't believe its a good product and do not feel it is going to do you any good at all... it eats away at muscle and i just don't feel its a good product...
the stane would be dosed at 12.5 mg eod and s4 would be 50 mg a day... thats a split dose...
25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later...
therhino89
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Awesome thanks for the help
Awesome thanks for the help
Hey Dylan I've been thinking about this and wanted to see what your thoughts are on it. I've been slowly adding to my stash for the triple sarm stack in a few months. I want to run gw 20 a day like you recommended for weight loose. I've got 4-5 bottles of gw but I know I need more for an 8 week run. Well since unique has been back ordered for a bit I was thinking about getting some gw50 from sarmsearch. How well do you think the two will work as far as when I run out of one and start on the different brand but they are technically the same. Make sense?
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unique is supposed to be back in stock soon... if you cannot wait then you will be fine to get from sarmsearch...
unique is supposed to be back in stock soon... if you cannot wait then you will be fine to get from sarmsearch...
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My rat's MK and S-4 came in this week! I can't wait to start that experiment! Would a Test booster be good to add, or will it not really make a difference since my rat will already be getting MK 25 MG daily & S-4 25 MG twice daily?
My rat's MK and S-4 came in this week! I can't wait to start that experiment! Would a Test booster be good to add, or will it not really make a difference since my rat will already be getting MK 25 MG daily & S-4 25 MG twice daily?
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i would definitely run hcgenerate alongside them...
i would definitely run hcgenerate alongside them...
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Thanks Dylan. I will do that. I'm also planning on 3-5 pumps of forms stanzol twice daily for the 8 weeks too. Then your standard SARMs mini-pct. I may even add some n2slin to really help my rats recomp...not sure about that yet though.
Thanks Dylan. I will do that. I'm also planning on 3-5 pumps of forms stanzol twice daily for the 8 weeks too. Then your standard SARMs mini-pct. I may even add some n2slin to really help my rats recomp...not sure about that yet though.
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run forma 10 pumps a day and definitely run need2slin...
run forma 10 pumps a day and definitely run need2slin...
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(1) S-4 vs Ostarin - Do either of these raise libido. If so which one does more?
(2) I see that S-4 has been shown to block DHT in the prostate similarly to Finasteride. Is it possible that S-4 could cause the "Post Finasteride Syndome" that 5ar inhibitors can cause (Accutane, Propecia, etc) ??
(1) S-4 vs Ostarin - Do either of these raise libido. If so which one does more?
(2) I see that S-4 has been shown to block DHT in the prostate similarly to Finasteride. Is it possible that S-4 could cause the "Post Finasteride Syndome" that 5ar inhibitors can cause (Accutane, Propecia, etc) ??
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Will do man. Thanks for the help; this thread is fucking amazing.
Will do man. Thanks for the help; this thread is fucking amazing.
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neither raises libido but i never run them without hcgenerate and my libido is sky high on them...
I highly doubt that s4 could cause any pfs... I have never heard of or seen any instances with that symptom... I suppose anything is possible but I have not yet encountered this...
neither raises libido but i never run them without hcgenerate and my libido is sky high on them...
I highly doubt that s4 could cause any pfs... I have never heard of or seen any instances with that symptom... I suppose anything is possible but I have not yet encountered this...
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Hey D, almost done running a 12 week cycle of test E 500mg/wk.....taking n2 guard, aromasin and hcgenerate along side right now.......Have Osta from unique and want to include in my PCT...can I? have aromasin, hcgnerate, n2guard, post cycle, unleashed....was going to run them for 4weeks starting last pin.....how would i include osta? .... if i should... Thanks for all your time and effort in answering all of our questions pertaining to SARMS....
Hey D, almost done running a 12 week cycle of test E 500mg/wk.....taking n2 guard, aromasin and hcgenerate along side right now.......Have Osta from unique and want to include in my PCT...can I? have aromasin, hcgnerate, n2guard, post cycle, unleashed....was going to run them for 4weeks starting last pin.....how would i include osta? .... if i should... Thanks for all your time and effort in answering all of our questions pertaining to SARMS....
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you can run osta in your pct at 25 mg a day... some people only do 12.5 mg a day in pct but i have always ran it at 25 and it has worked great that way... no problem for the help bro!
you can run osta in your pct at 25 mg a day... some people only do 12.5 mg a day in pct but i have always ran it at 25 and it has worked great that way... no problem for the help bro!
Phishtribe
Banned
What's ur take on this.... Sounds like s4 isn't what we thought it was. http://forums./showthread.php?417947-S4-is-andarine&highlight=andarine#.UESrgIl5mc1
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you will be fine... don't skip any doses... just don't make this a habit...
you will be fine... don't skip any doses... just don't make this a habit...
Phishtribe
Banned
My bad. Here try this one.
http://forums./showthread.php?417947-S4-is-andarine&highlight=andarine
http://forums./showthread.php?417947-S4-is-andarine&highlight=andarine
Phishtribe
Banned
Sorry didn't work again. Anyways the company is Rui and here's what was posted on a site from their rep.
We've found that according to the scientific database used by our third party testing facility S4 had been incorrectly identified and listed as ostarine. Because ostarine (MK-2866) and andarine (S4) have very similar molecular structures and properties, this misidentity has occured often, even so on the academic level - as illustrated by the fact the even the scientific database which the lab was using had S4 misidentified. Moving forward, to be clear, we sell S4. S4 is andarine, chemically: S-3-(4-acetylaminophenoxy)-2-hydroxy-2-methyl-N-(4-nitro-3-
trifluoromethylphenyl)propionamide.
Several published articles are available to learn more about andarine and its use as a predominant model compound of SARMs .
An updated COA will soon be available.
We've found that according to the scientific database used by our third party testing facility S4 had been incorrectly identified and listed as ostarine. Because ostarine (MK-2866) and andarine (S4) have very similar molecular structures and properties, this misidentity has occured often, even so on the academic level - as illustrated by the fact the even the scientific database which the lab was using had S4 misidentified. Moving forward, to be clear, we sell S4. S4 is andarine, chemically: S-3-(4-acetylaminophenoxy)-2-hydroxy-2-methyl-N-(4-nitro-3-
trifluoromethylphenyl)propionamide.
Several published articles are available to learn more about andarine and its use as a predominant model compound of SARMs .
An updated COA will soon be available.
Phishtribe
Banned
Just google "s4 is andarine"
Aesthetical
New member
Hey Dylan, Im giving ostarine a whirl at 12.5mg for 6 weeks, once finished how long should I wait Until i run it at again but at 25mg for 6 weeks. Also should I bother running hcgenerate on the 12.5mg cycle? or just save it for the 25mg one? + what mini pct?
Also what negative side effects does GW-501516 have? Thanks
Also what negative side effects does GW-501516 have? Thanks
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i would run hcgenerate alongside at either dosage but i would run 25 bro... 12.5 is ok but you will see so much more at 25... you need a 3 week mini pct of the unleashed/post cycle combo and bridge (double dosed) then you wait a week and can start sarms again...
i would run hcgenerate alongside at either dosage but i would run 25 bro... 12.5 is ok but you will see so much more at 25... you need a 3 week mini pct of the unleashed/post cycle combo and bridge (double dosed) then you wait a week and can start sarms again...
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Hey there.
So I got some bloods done while on a SARMS triple stack cycle (S4, OSTA, GW-50) and just wanted to help verify the results - test and SHGB were somewhat low, but I expect that the bloods measured free test which makes some sense to me that it would be lower during a cycle with S4 in it so I'm not too worried about that. I've also got low blood sugar which doesnt surprise me - I'm cutting and on a low calorie, low carb diet so I'm also not worried about that.
The ones that are peaking my interest are my triglycerides and cholesterol. My triglycerides are elevated a bit (again, not terribly worried), but my cholesterol on both ends is extremely low. Particularly my good cholesterol is very low..........I suspect this is due to diet but I'd like to make sure. Has anyone heard of SARMs causing low HDL cholesterol? I've read in clinical reports that OSTA can possibly lower HDL, but none of the write ups made it sound grave and mentioned only in high doses.........I wouldnt think 25 mgs ED would produce such dire drops......
Hey there.
So I got some bloods done while on a SARMS triple stack cycle (S4, OSTA, GW-50) and just wanted to help verify the results - test and SHGB were somewhat low, but I expect that the bloods measured free test which makes some sense to me that it would be lower during a cycle with S4 in it so I'm not too worried about that. I've also got low blood sugar which doesnt surprise me - I'm cutting and on a low calorie, low carb diet so I'm also not worried about that.
The ones that are peaking my interest are my triglycerides and cholesterol. My triglycerides are elevated a bit (again, not terribly worried), but my cholesterol on both ends is extremely low. Particularly my good cholesterol is very low..........I suspect this is due to diet but I'd like to make sure. Has anyone heard of SARMs causing low HDL cholesterol? I've read in clinical reports that OSTA can possibly lower HDL, but none of the write ups made it sound grave and mentioned only in high doses.........I wouldnt think 25 mgs ED would produce such dire drops......
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i have not come across anything as drastic as you described bro... here is one piece i found...
Ostarine (MK-2866) also resulted in a dose-dependent decrease in LDL and HDL cholesterol levels, with the average LDL/HDL ratio for all doses remaining in the low cardiovascular risk category ***8211; hence there is little impact on cholesterol values.
I know that doesn't help a lot, but its what i found...
i have not come across anything as drastic as you described bro... here is one piece i found...
Ostarine (MK-2866) also resulted in a dose-dependent decrease in LDL and HDL cholesterol levels, with the average LDL/HDL ratio for all doses remaining in the low cardiovascular risk category ***8211; hence there is little impact on cholesterol values.
I know that doesn't help a lot, but its what i found...
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Yea they are both low so I'm not worried about it. I have sneaking suspicion that its more diet and genetics driven (All of my relatives have been on cholesterol meds since they were 40).
Thanks for the info!
Yea they are both low so I'm not worried about it. I have sneaking suspicion that its more diet and genetics driven (All of my relatives have been on cholesterol meds since they were 40).
Thanks for the info!
on_a_mission2day
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hey dylan,
im running short on time waiting for GW from Unique....wondering how many bottles of GW will I need if i wana run 20mg for 8 weeks if I purchase from:
1. Sarms Search?
2. Great White Peptides?
Which of the two would u recommend buying from and would u happen to have any coupons?
Thanks a million!
hey dylan,
im running short on time waiting for GW from Unique....wondering how many bottles of GW will I need if i wana run 20mg for 8 weeks if I purchase from:
1. Sarms Search?
2. Great White Peptides?
Which of the two would u recommend buying from and would u happen to have any coupons?
Thanks a million!
I had to order from gwp for the rest of my cycle and its good to go... two bottles from them would get you 8 weeks at 20 mg a day
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on_a_mission2day
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Cheers bro!
Cheers bro!
on_a_mission2day
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ok i swear last question!! The only reason I ask this is cause i saw GWP are selling GW and AICAR together in a deal.
Would u recommend I added AICAR to my triple sarms stack (s4, osta and GW)?
If so wat are the benefits? How shoudl I dose it during the 8 weeks?
ok i swear last question!! The only reason I ask this is cause i saw GWP are selling GW and AICAR together in a deal.
Would u recommend I added AICAR to my triple sarms stack (s4, osta and GW)?
If so wat are the benefits? How shoudl I dose it during the 8 weeks?
It depends on your goals bro... its going to be very beneficial for endurance
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on_a_mission2day
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My goal is fat loss and preserving muscle mass. The more fat loss the better...i dont wana be holding back! lol
My goal is fat loss and preserving muscle mass. The more fat loss the better...i dont wana be holding back! lol
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1-8 ostarine 25 mg a day... dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-8 s4 50 mg a day... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg four to six hours later
1-8 gw 501516 10 mg a day... 10 mg in the a.m. and 10 m.g. twelve hours later
3-8 albuterol 12-18 mg day
1-8 forma stanzol
1-11 need2slin
1-11 creatine nitrate
PCT
9-11 Unleashed/post cycle combo
9-11 bridge (double dosed
1-8 ostarine 25 mg a day... dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-8 s4 50 mg a day... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg four to six hours later
1-8 gw 501516 10 mg a day... 10 mg in the a.m. and 10 m.g. twelve hours later
3-8 albuterol 12-18 mg day
1-8 forma stanzol
1-11 need2slin
1-11 creatine nitrate
PCT
9-11 Unleashed/post cycle combo
9-11 bridge (double dosed
You can't be serious... you shouldn't be taking anything but letro if you have gyno... come on bro
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Yea I agree with this..........but that said, to my knowledge SARMs are not known to make things like gyno any worse.........but you can bet your ass it wont get better.
Yea I agree with this..........but that said, to my knowledge SARMs are not known to make things like gyno any worse.........but you can bet your ass it wont get better.
boomboom6272
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Thanks for all the info.
Started a triple stack at your suggested dosage after reading all the materials. 25x2 s4, 25 osta, 5x2gw.
Anyway after a week (actually two weeks, but first week was super low dosage), I think I have to stop for now. I have alot of hairloss, oily skin and the nodes in my right armpit are painful and swollen. I noticed I had a bit of acne on my biceps. I also had kidney pain (but I think it may be back pumps instead?).
I am one of those people who experience sensitivity to alot of meds. The GW was from gwp, and s4, osta from uniquemicals.
I'm 5' 11" 193lb, 18.5%. Been lifting for 30 years, the harshest supp I ever used (or anything for that matter) was creatine--had a big positive effect to. Gained 20 lbs that stayed. My bf went up last year and lifting suffered because of knee surgery--aerobics/leg work is harder to do these days.
Any advice?
I must admit even in a week, dramatic difference. I may try again in the future. (I even started the stack with a super low first week of 1/10 what you recommended and noticed something!). I often have to start any meds(cholesterol) low to fool the body and build up.
Thanks for all the info.
Started a triple stack at your suggested dosage after reading all the materials. 25x2 s4, 25 osta, 5x2gw.
Anyway after a week (actually two weeks, but first week was super low dosage), I think I have to stop for now. I have alot of hairloss, oily skin and the nodes in my right armpit are painful and swollen. I noticed I had a bit of acne on my biceps. I also had kidney pain (but I think it may be back pumps instead?).
I am one of those people who experience sensitivity to alot of meds. The GW was from gwp, and s4, osta from uniquemicals.
I'm 5' 11" 193lb, 18.5%. Been lifting for 30 years, the harshest supp I ever used (or anything for that matter) was creatine--had a big positive effect to. Gained 20 lbs that stayed. My bf went up last year and lifting suffered because of knee surgery--aerobics/leg work is harder to do these days.
Any advice?
I must admit even in a week, dramatic difference. I may try again in the future. (I even started the stack with a super low first week of 1/10 what you recommended and noticed something!). I often have to start any meds(cholesterol) low to fool the body and build up.
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there have been instances where people have gotten gyno symptoms from mk... so it is possible and everyone should always be protected...
there have been instances where people have gotten gyno symptoms from mk... so it is possible and everyone should always be protected...
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i have never heard of anyone having any of the symptoms you are describing from sarms usage man...
i have never heard of anyone having any of the symptoms you are describing from sarms usage man...
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My 12 week test only cycle ends on Sep 20. When should I start taking Osta? Also, I've been running hcgenerate since week 6. Is it ok to continue running it through pct and even longer if I go from pct to an eight week S4 Osta stack? Is it ok to run Osta that long as well?
My 12 week test only cycle ends on Sep 20. When should I start taking Osta? Also, I've been running hcgenerate since week 6. Is it ok to continue running it through pct and even longer if I go from pct to an eight week S4 Osta stack? Is it ok to run Osta that long as well?
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You can run osta in pct and then run it for 8 weeks after...
you need to stop hcgenerate in pct and then start it again when you start your sarms stack...
You can run osta in pct and then run it for 8 weeks after...
you need to stop hcgenerate in pct and then start it again when you start your sarms stack...
No they can be run in conjunction with ass but are best utilized as a bridge in between cycles...
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AAS.Achilles
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Just thought I'd drop by and share a little update
Been running my SARMs Osta and S4 stack for about 2 weeks now, I've been running Layne Norton's PHAT as a routine for 3 weeks now and I am making good strides in terms of strength. I know it's much to early to know how everything will turn out but so far everything has been going very smoothly I'd say, I'm on a 500+ caloric deficit and even so still gaining strength. Although I am feeling the vision sides very harsh for me even at just 50mgs a day split dosed, during a bright day I can't see my speedometer when I look down from the road. I've still been lurking around the forums and am very relived and confident that the symptoms will subside a few days after stopping the dosing.
Overall I'm feeling great in the gym and hoping everything continues running this good throughout the entire cycle! I'll post another update in this thread towards the end of my fat loss cycle for those interested in see the results, cheers.
Just thought I'd drop by and share a little update
Been running my SARMs Osta and S4 stack for about 2 weeks now, I've been running Layne Norton's PHAT as a routine for 3 weeks now and I am making good strides in terms of strength. I know it's much to early to know how everything will turn out but so far everything has been going very smoothly I'd say, I'm on a 500+ caloric deficit and even so still gaining strength. Although I am feeling the vision sides very harsh for me even at just 50mgs a day split dosed, during a bright day I can't see my speedometer when I look down from the road. I've still been lurking around the forums and am very relived and confident that the symptoms will subside a few days after stopping the dosing.
Overall I'm feeling great in the gym and hoping everything continues running this good throughout the entire cycle! I'll post another update in this thread towards the end of my fat loss cycle for those interested in see the results, cheers.
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keep working hard man... if you are getting the sides that bad already then you are going to need to dose it 5 days on and 2 days off...
keep working hard man... if you are getting the sides that bad already then you are going to need to dose it 5 days on and 2 days off...
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I was considering that option of 5 on 2 off but I really wanna get the full effect from the cycle.
The vision blindness is mainly cause by switching from bright to dark too quickly, I've found that sunglasses offset this to a point where it's not much of a problem lol.
The vision blindness is mainly cause by switching from bright to dark too quickly, I've found that sunglasses offset this to a point where it's not much of a problem lol.
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Eventually youll probably get the blotchy vision when you wake up in the morning too. Sides go away very quickly upon finishing.
Eventually youll probably get the blotchy vision when you wake up in the morning too. Sides go away very quickly upon finishing.
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it is best to avoid the 5 on 2 off as long as possible... the half life is so short on s4 that you want to get the most out of it and taking days off is not optimal although for some it is necessary...
it is best to avoid the 5 on 2 off as long as possible... the half life is so short on s4 that you want to get the most out of it and taking days off is not optimal although for some it is necessary...
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are you going to be running it alone or are you going to run a stack?
are you going to be running it alone or are you going to run a stack?
johnnyboy3689282
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Whats a Sarm???? lol, JK, hope u been good Dylan, BACK IN THE FLESH... HAD TO TAKE SOME TIME OFF!!!
Whats a Sarm???? lol, JK, hope u been good Dylan, BACK IN THE FLESH... HAD TO TAKE SOME TIME OFF!!!
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1-8 ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-8 hcgenerate
1-11 need2slin
1-11 creatine nitrate
pct
9-11 unleashed/post cycle combo
9-11 bridge (double dosed)
1-8 ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-8 hcgenerate
1-11 need2slin
1-11 creatine nitrate
pct
9-11 unleashed/post cycle combo
9-11 bridge (double dosed)
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good to have you back bro! lollll i get that question often bro... lolllll
good to have you back bro! lollll i get that question often bro... lolllll
vinnyd50
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Very good! Thanks bro
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hi everyone, i just got osta from unique and i am wondering how to run it. i ran clen before but that was nothing as it doesnt do anything to your natural testosterone. i am 21 (22 this year in november) and i have been lifting for 5 years. i am 5'9" and 170-175 at the moment at bodyfat of 12-14% (not sure, but i can see little bit of my abs).
i was thinking of running either 10 or 12.5mg ED for 4-6 weeks for my first ever cycle without any pct because i have read in several threads that a pct is not necessary. my goal is to get a lean 5-10 lbs over the cycle and hold on to the gains. however, here are a few questions:
1. is there a chance (even a little bit) for me to get gyno or getting some suppression?
2. is it actually safe and ok to not use any pct or is it better to have some substances just in case?
can anyone comment on my plan?
thank you so much!
hi everyone, i just got osta from unique and i am wondering how to run it. i ran clen before but that was nothing as it doesnt do anything to your natural testosterone. i am 21 (22 this year in november) and i have been lifting for 5 years. i am 5'9" and 170-175 at the moment at bodyfat of 12-14% (not sure, but i can see little bit of my abs).
i was thinking of running either 10 or 12.5mg ED for 4-6 weeks for my first ever cycle without any pct because i have read in several threads that a pct is not necessary. my goal is to get a lean 5-10 lbs over the cycle and hold on to the gains. however, here are a few questions:
1. is there a chance (even a little bit) for me to get gyno or getting some suppression?
2. is it actually safe and ok to not use any pct or is it better to have some substances just in case?
can anyone comment on my plan?
thank you so much!
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Gyno is not a problem with SARMs, especially not OSTA. You will not get any suppression at all on OSTA at that dose - under 25 mgs is not even questionably suppressive. If you're running at 12.5 mgs you could run 8 weeks no problem if you want to.
After OSTA you really dont need any PCT. Just to be safe, I would run a mini PCT just for a couple of weeks, but its really not necessary.
Gyno is not a problem with SARMs, especially not OSTA. You will not get any suppression at all on OSTA at that dose - under 25 mgs is not even questionably suppressive. If you're running at 12.5 mgs you could run 8 weeks no problem if you want to.
After OSTA you really dont need any PCT. Just to be safe, I would run a mini PCT just for a couple of weeks, but its really not necessary.
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if you exceed 25 mg of ostarine then there is a chance of gyno... i have seen more than a few people have this problem but mainly because of them not listening and exceeding the proper dosage... for the goals that you have, you need to run osta the full 8 weeks... 4 weeks is not enough and anything over 4 requires a mini pct... i always recommend running hcgenerate alongside any sarms as it really keeps suppression to a minimum... i can set you up a cycle if you like...
if you exceed 25 mg of ostarine then there is a chance of gyno... i have seen more than a few people have this problem but mainly because of them not listening and exceeding the proper dosage... for the goals that you have, you need to run osta the full 8 weeks... 4 weeks is not enough and anything over 4 requires a mini pct... i always recommend running hcgenerate alongside any sarms as it really keeps suppression to a minimum... i can set you up a cycle if you like...
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my brother, gyno is most definitely a possibility with osta... mainly, it has occurred because people have exceeded 25mg a day on it but i have seen quite a few instances where people were having some gyno issue... it definitely would not hurt to run forma with it if you have had any sort of gyno issue in the past... its not a likely thing with osta, but the possibility is there...
my brother, gyno is most definitely a possibility with osta... mainly, it has occurred because people have exceeded 25mg a day on it but i have seen quite a few instances where people were having some gyno issue... it definitely would not hurt to run forma with it if you have had any sort of gyno issue in the past... its not a likely thing with osta, but the possibility is there...
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Right thats why I said under 25 mgs. He was suggesting a dosage at 12.5 or 10 mgs in which case Gyno and suppression are definitely not a problem.
And yes, like I said before, running support supps and PCT NEVER hurts even if itsnot entirely necessary, so running forma with anything other than letro if you've had gyno problems is a good idea.
Right thats why I said under 25 mgs. He was suggesting a dosage at 12.5 or 10 mgs in which case Gyno and suppression are definitely not a problem.
And yes, like I said before, running support supps and PCT NEVER hurts even if itsnot entirely necessary, so running forma with anything other than letro if you've had gyno problems is a good idea.
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its all good bro... i just didn't want anyone to have any confusion... =)
its all good bro... i just didn't want anyone to have any confusion... =)
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Hey Dylan,
Here is my final cycle for maximum fat loss AND either maintaining or adding lean mass:
[FONT="]1-8 ostarine 25 mg a day... dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-8 s4 50 mg a day... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg four to six hours later
1-8 gw 501516 20 mg a day... 10 mg in the a.m. and 10 m.g. twelve hours later
[/FONT][FONT="]1-4 DAA[/FONT]
[FONT="]5-8 HCGenerate
[/FONT][FONT="]3-8 Albuterol 12-18 mg day
1-8 forma stanzol
1-11 need2slin
1-11 creatine nitrate
PCT
9-11 Unleashed/post cycle combo
9-11 bridge (double dosed[/FONT][FONT="][/FONT]
1. You would have noticed im running DAA for 4 weeks then HG generate for the other 4 weeks. This is because im coming off a beast cycle where I have run 8 weeks of HC Generate (including PCT phase). So will this be ok? i.e. DAA for 4 and HC Generate for 4weeks?
2. U said last time that I only need 2 bottles of GW from Great White Pep if i want to run it at 20mg for 8 weeks. Is this correct? A mate of mine said I need 4 bottles :S
3. Albuterol....12 mg a day....how many bottles will I need from Great White Pep?
4. Because of my beast cycle I have been on Forma for about 8 weeks as well. So is it ok that I run it another 8 weeks with my sarms cycle?
5. Because of the goals i listed above (max fat loss while adding or maintaining mass) I was thinking of 55/25/10 @ 2000-2200 cals. Im 198 pounds (or thereabouts) and 6 feet tall 25 years old.
6. Workout: Push, Pull, Legs, Abs (4 days) + 3 days cardio on non weight days (fasted cardio in the am after dosing my sarms). Is this ok?
Thanks bro. After this post im set to start my sarms cycle next week. I'll start a log bro.
Hey Dylan,
Here is my final cycle for maximum fat loss AND either maintaining or adding lean mass:
[FONT="]1-8 ostarine 25 mg a day... dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-8 s4 50 mg a day... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg four to six hours later
1-8 gw 501516 20 mg a day... 10 mg in the a.m. and 10 m.g. twelve hours later
[/FONT][FONT="]1-4 DAA[/FONT]
[FONT="]5-8 HCGenerate
[/FONT][FONT="]3-8 Albuterol 12-18 mg day
1-8 forma stanzol
1-11 need2slin
1-11 creatine nitrate
PCT
9-11 Unleashed/post cycle combo
9-11 bridge (double dosed[/FONT][FONT="][/FONT]
1. You would have noticed im running DAA for 4 weeks then HG generate for the other 4 weeks. This is because im coming off a beast cycle where I have run 8 weeks of HC Generate (including PCT phase). So will this be ok? i.e. DAA for 4 and HC Generate for 4weeks?
2. U said last time that I only need 2 bottles of GW from Great White Pep if i want to run it at 20mg for 8 weeks. Is this correct? A mate of mine said I need 4 bottles :S
3. Albuterol....12 mg a day....how many bottles will I need from Great White Pep?
4. Because of my beast cycle I have been on Forma for about 8 weeks as well. So is it ok that I run it another 8 weeks with my sarms cycle?
5. Because of the goals i listed above (max fat loss while adding or maintaining mass) I was thinking of 55/25/10 @ 2000-2200 cals. Im 198 pounds (or thereabouts) and 6 feet tall 25 years old.
6. Workout: Push, Pull, Legs, Abs (4 days) + 3 days cardio on non weight days (fasted cardio in the am after dosing my sarms). Is this ok?
Thanks bro. After this post im set to start my sarms cycle next week. I'll start a log bro.
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hey dylan great thread mate, read up to 75ish and got tired so id thought id ask.
i was just speculating if i was to run just the osta would it be fine to run say 4 weeks on 4 weeks off, with no pct or support every 4 weeks ? would i need to use Hcgenerate while on with this method ?
Is it ALOT more productive to run 8wks and then have a mini 3 wk pct (then another 8wks and repeat) than it would be to run consistent 4 weekers on/off with no suppression - Much dif in gains ?
what gains could i expect from them?
Are there any supps you would reccomend to run with the osta to boost results ? apart from the other sarms ? just wanna gain gd muscle, not cut or lean up
sorry if theyv been arnswered already cheers nick
hey dylan great thread mate, read up to 75ish and got tired so id thought id ask.
i was just speculating if i was to run just the osta would it be fine to run say 4 weeks on 4 weeks off, with no pct or support every 4 weeks ? would i need to use Hcgenerate while on with this method ?
Is it ALOT more productive to run 8wks and then have a mini 3 wk pct (then another 8wks and repeat) than it would be to run consistent 4 weekers on/off with no suppression - Much dif in gains ?
what gains could i expect from them?
Are there any supps you would reccomend to run with the osta to boost results ? apart from the other sarms ? just wanna gain gd muscle, not cut or lean up
sorry if theyv been arnswered already cheers nick
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I wish that you would not have run hcgenerate in your beast pct... it was not necessary... just run daa the first two weeks and then get back on hcgenerate the rest of the way...
it will take 2 bottles to run it at 10 mg day... if your doing 20 mg a day then it is 4 bottles...
3 albuterol
take off 4 weeks from forma
I wish that you would not have run hcgenerate in your beast pct... it was not necessary... just run daa the first two weeks and then get back on hcgenerate the rest of the way...
it will take 2 bottles to run it at 10 mg day... if your doing 20 mg a day then it is 4 bottles...
3 albuterol
take off 4 weeks from forma
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