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Gamer2Be08

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I am going to tell you how to run an effective S4/Osta SARM run!

Fist off, what are you trying to accomplish, what effects are you after with SARM?

First off is SARM S4:
-Androgenic at any dose
-Mildly Anabolic at doses above 50mg
-Great for strength
-Great for muscle hardness
-Great for enhanced vascularity
-Great for endurance (aerobic or anaerobic)
-Accelerated fat loss above 50mg
-Joint soothing/healing effects
-Half life is 2-4 hours (multiple doses per day is optimal)
-Better if used on a 5on 2off approach to reduce or diminish sides even at above average doses

Sides:
-Yellow tint (person dependent, but usually starts around 75mg and up)
-Loss of night vision (person dependent, but usually starts around 75mg and up)
-Gene transcription (no known gene transcription effects to be reported yet, but the possibility is there tha you could be permanently messed up)
-Possible mild suppression at 60mg and above (person dependent)

Ostarine SARM:
-Lean mass gains (doses as low as 5mg to cause muscle growth)
-Accelerated fat loss (much moreso than S4 and at doses as low as 5mg ED)
-Joint soothing/healing effects
-Half life is 24 hours (one dose per day optimal)
-Can go up to 50mg ED with no known side effects
-Full looking muscle all day long

NO KNOWN SIDES
NO SHUTDOWN


Now that you know a little bit about the two SARMs out now out of multiple SARMs to come, you can decide on whether you want to bulk, recomp or cut!

On a bulk or recomp I personally would use Osta over S4.
On a cut I would recommend S4 as it has muscle sparring effects. You will retain/increase strength and you will be hard and vascular.

Can I use in PCT??
In-fact, why not stack the two?
Why not do a bridge?
Can you?
YES!

I am bridging my SARMs for PCT:
Osta:15/15/15/15/15/15/15
S4:0/0/0/0/50/50/50/50/50/50

That is my general layout now for my PCT!
You can modify, change your dosing and do whatever you want with the compound!

Is a SARM as good as general AAS?
NO

Is a SARM better than any natty product?
YES

A SARM has its palce in the BB/fitness world, and although it is not as good as AAS, comes in close behind!!!


I may update the above whenever I see fit or find out new info, or if I forgot anything!

If any of you guys have any questions, feel free to ask!
 
Yes LCLT would benefit on cycle..
Also carnatine eye drops seem to be effective with vision sides.
 
I'm on my 15th day of Osta and I really don't feel a big change.

I do feel a bit more dense, but it is subtle.
My strength is up a bit, but nothing amazing.

I did 12.5mg/day the first week, and I've done 25mg/day for a week now.

My protein intake and diet are in check.
Training 4 days per week.

Does it "kick in" or does stay subtle and gradual all the way through?

Originally I was going to do one bottle, but now I am leaning towards two.

thanks!!
 
midman said:
I'm on my 15th day of Osta and I really don't feel a big change.

I do feel a bit more dense, but it is subtle.
My strength is up a bit, but nothing amazing.

I did 12.5mg/day the first week, and I've done 25mg/day for a week now.

My protein intake and diet are in check.
Training 4 days per week.

Does it "kick in" or does stay subtle and gradual all the way through?

Originally I was going to do one bottle, but now I am leaning towards two.

thanks!!
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I hope things become more evident for you... I know it's expensive. Maybe someone with more experience can chime in and let you know! Gamer, or Russian Star.
 
I think I may beginning to feel the effects.

My product source is reputable.

Strength is coming up, getting leaner, but no movement on the scale.
The pumps are becoming very good.
Had some severe dry mouth yesterday.
 
Duh,
I meant to say my product source is "reliable".
I think an "auto-fill in" feature dumped in the "reputable" word.
I think the product is kicking in for me.
 
I just got my bottle of s4 ... I'm a bit of newbie and I'm looking for advice on how to get the proper dosage ...50mg is what I'm aiming for. All I have available is some pins from a pharmacy 5 ml capacity ... what would I fill it too to get the proper dosage ? Much thanks to anybody who can help with this.
 
bull52 said:
I just got my bottle of s4 ... I'm a bit of newbie and I'm looking for advice on how to get the proper dosage ...50mg is what I'm aiming for. All I have available is some pins from a pharmacy 5 ml capacity ... what would I fill it too to get the proper dosage ? Much thanks to anybody who can help with this.
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You can order oral syringes from somewhere like researchsupply.net, or you can just mark the dropped half-way with a Sharpie which would be 1/2ml.
 
midman said:
I'm on my 15th day of Osta and I really don't feel a big change.

I do feel a bit more dense, but it is subtle.
My strength is up a bit, but nothing amazing.

I did 12.5mg/day the first week, and I've done 25mg/day for a week now.

My protein intake and diet are in check.
Training 4 days per week.

Does it "kick in" or does stay subtle and gradual all the way through?

Originally I was going to do one bottle, but now I am leaning towards two.

thanks!!
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If you weigh over 200Lbs maybe try using 50mgs daily and see how it goes although 25mgs should do the trick. Yes Osta-sarm works a bit slower than S-4 which is faster acting but if you are thinking that you are going pack slabs of mass then you are in for a dissapointment since Osta-sarm is non-hormonal and does not cause any water of fat gain usually associated with the use of aromatizing steroids which packs on muscle along with water and fat depending on diet of course.

Osta-sarm is a true performance enhancer and will help you gain endurance, slow gradual strength and lean mass, vascularity long lasting pumps, increased energy and recently has shown to be an excellent fat burner as well, I know of a guy who is on a 4K calorie diet plus on a cycle using aromatizing steroids and he said he lost already 1% body fat in a little over a week of using 50mg osta-sarm daily split in two dosages.
 
How much time should you take off between running sarms? I'm in week three or 4 of s4, gonna run it 8 weeks. I want to run osta for 8 weeks. How long should I wait after s4 to run the osta.
 
Hey man I love your info on sarms, I cant wait to try it, I want to stack both osta and s4, I am going to get one bottle of each.

30ML 100mg/ML S-4)
30ML 25mg/ML OSTA

I weight 207lbs at 11%bf, I want to re comp and get to around 215-220lbs without gaining to much fat, how long will this last with one bottle each if i do a low dosage, basically im asking you to plan out my cycle because I have no experience on this, just wondering how long it will run for and I know you like the 5 days on 2 days off approach, just any info would be appreciated, thanks bro!

-I have good diet
-Protein: 250-300g day

6ft, 207, 11%bf.
 
nice i finally found this, bump for the great easy to understand layout and info. will def be looking into this
 
CoBra666 said:
nice i finally found this, bump for the great easy to understand layout and info. will def be looking into this
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As part of a PCT or even a standalone adjunct during your natural phases anytime of the year, SARMS offer a massive utility to those looking to maintain strength and even add lean mass. OSTA is my SARM of choice, and SARMS SEARCH is absolutely my supplier of choice.
 
how long could u run s4? 5 and 2 forever kind of thing.. and pct protocol after a lengthy s4 dose? after a long run it must have some shutdown no... or could running a tbooster along side just prevent that??
 
CoBra666 said:
how long could u run s4? 5 and 2 forever kind of thing.. and pct protocol after a lengthy s4 dose? after a long run it must have some shutdown no... or could running a tbooster along side just prevent that??
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Well, aside from Test (cruise/blast) I wouldn't really consider taking anything forever, aside from a multi and creatine perhaps. As far as giving you a direct answer, I cannot, I don't believe there is enough anecdotal or text-based research nearly conclusive enough to say yes, or no.
 
thanks almost. it was just a hypothetical question in comparison to cruising and blasting on test. since osta doesnt suppress anything it would seem to me like you could do the same. i got 2 s4's on the way that i will prolly run one each after beastdrol or something. but yeah i was just curious if sarms would work the same way.. kinda glad its not definitevly yes. the next year coulda gotten expensive. lol
 
nolva? how come. what about s4, cant find any info about pct, mostly hear that u dont need any. all i can find is to run a bulbine product
 
CoBra666 said:
nolva? how come. what about s4, cant find any info about pct, mostly hear that u dont need any. all i can find is to run a bulbine product
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I'm gonna take some daa after my s4, just in case. I think I'm cool though. I did the 5 on 2 off thing and I wasn't paying my girl any attention. Started taking it on my workout days only, weather it be every other day or 2 on 1 off, and everything is back to normal.
 
bird901 said:
I'm gonna take some daa after my s4, just in case. I think I'm cool though. I did the 5 on 2 off thing and I wasn't paying my girl any attention. Started taking it on my workout days only, weather it be every other day or 2 on 1 off, and everything is back to normal.
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I do the 5 on 2 off.
 
Gamer2Be08 said:
I am going to tell you how to run an effective S4/Osta SARM run!

Fist off, what are you trying to accomplish, what effects are you after with SARM?

First off is SARM S4:
-Androgenic at any dose
-Mildly Anabolic at doses above 50mg
-Great for strength
-Great for muscle hardness
-Great for enhanced vascularity
-Great for endurance (aerobic or anaerobic)
-Accelerated fat loss above 50mg
-Joint soothing/healing effects
-Half life is 2-4 hours (multiple doses per day is optimal)
-Better if used on a 5on 2off approach to reduce or diminish sides even at above average doses

Sides:
-Yellow tint (person dependent, but usually starts around 75mg and up)
-Loss of night vision (person dependent, but usually starts around 75mg and up)
-Gene transcription (no known gene transcription effects to be reported yet, but the possibility is there tha you could be permanently messed up)
-Possible mild suppression at 60mg and above (person dependent)

Ostarine SARM:
-Lean mass gains (doses as low as 5mg to cause muscle growth)
-Accelerated fat loss (much moreso than S4 and at doses as low as 5mg ED)
-Joint soothing/healing effects
-Half life is 24 hours (one dose per day optimal)
-Can go up to 50mg ED with no known side effects
-Full looking muscle all day long

NO KNOWN SIDES
NO SHUTDOWN


Now that you know a little bit about the two SARMs out now out of multiple SARMs to come, you can decide on whether you want to bulk, recomp or cut!

On a bulk or recomp I personally would use Osta over S4.
On a cut I would recommend S4 as it has muscle sparring effects. You will retain/increase strength and you will be hard and vascular.

Can I use in PCT??
In-fact, why not stack the two?
Why not do a bridge?
Can you?
YES!

I am bridging my SARMs for PCT:
Osta:15/15/15/15/15/15/15
S4:0/0/0/0/50/50/50/50/50/50



- I was thinking of doing SARM for my pct, but I'm a little concerned with Gene transcription, could someone explain what exactly this is and should I be worried about it? Is there any physical symptoms that one should look out for? I tried doing a search on google, but I really didn't understand what I was reading.
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In addition to the above:

I've seen a lot of recent reading that is saying Ostarine (s1) should be run with Nolva to avoid gyno
 
Bear_Hunter said:
In addition to the above:

I've seen a lot of recent reading that is saying Ostarine (s1) should be run with Nolva to avoid gyno
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Nolva is just... plain terrible for 'avoiding' gyno regarding the optimal approach and intervention choice. Also, who has been saying this!? Were they a reputable member with a good amount of knowledge? I have never heard this, and I'm around a lot of the forums sharing my love and knowledge of OSTA. Just curious... as I never experienced ANY gyno during my full two month cycle at 25mg per day!
 
elitefitnesscom /forum /anabolic-steroids/osta-sarms-raised-estrogen-735277.html

Thats one link ahum.. theres more with some VERY reputable members posting on it.. I'll browse
 
true dat, one of the best devoloped muscular and strong guys i know does everything in the book wrong, everything. his diet, his training its total garbage, his supps, pct. he is a drunk, drug addict bum. but he looks like a damn beast and he swears his stupidity is right. stupid genetics. although everyone is differnt and reacts differently to different things, so sometimes ppl are both right and wrong about certain supps. i wont tell someone not to use nolva all i will say is i wont touch it, ive also used winny as a prolactin inhibitor. lots of ppl argue against that. for me it works
 
Amp45 said:
Gamer2Be08 said:
I am going to tell you how to run an effective S4/Osta SARM run!

Fist off, what are you trying to accomplish, what effects are you after with SARM?

First off is SARM S4:
-Androgenic at any dose
-Mildly Anabolic at doses above 50mg
-Great for strength
-Great for muscle hardness
-Great for enhanced vascularity
-Great for endurance (aerobic or anaerobic)
-Accelerated fat loss above 50mg
-Joint soothing/healing effects
-Half life is 2-4 hours (multiple doses per day is optimal)
-Better if used on a 5on 2off approach to reduce or diminish sides even at above average doses

Sides:
-Yellow tint (person dependent, but usually starts around 75mg and up)
-Loss of night vision (person dependent, but usually starts around 75mg and up)
-Gene transcription (no known gene transcription effects to be reported yet, but the possibility is there tha you could be permanently messed up)
-Possible mild suppression at 60mg and above (person dependent)

Ostarine SARM:
-Lean mass gains (doses as low as 5mg to cause muscle growth)
-Accelerated fat loss (much moreso than S4 and at doses as low as 5mg ED)
-Joint soothing/healing effects
-Half life is 24 hours (one dose per day optimal)
-Can go up to 50mg ED with no known side effects
-Full looking muscle all day long

NO KNOWN SIDES
NO SHUTDOWN


Now that you know a little bit about the two SARMs out now out of multiple SARMs to come, you can decide on whether you want to bulk, recomp or cut!

On a bulk or recomp I personally would use Osta over S4.
On a cut I would recommend S4 as it has muscle sparring effects. You will retain/increase strength and you will be hard and vascular.

Can I use in PCT??
In-fact, why not stack the two?
Why not do a bridge?
Can you?
YES!

I am bridging my SARMs for PCT:
Osta:15/15/15/15/15/15/15
S4:0/0/0/0/50/50/50/50/50/50



- I was thinking of doing SARM for my pct, but I'm a little concerned with Gene transcription, could someone explain what exactly this is and should I be worried about it? Is there any physical symptoms that one should look out for? I tried doing a search on google, but I really didn't understand what I was reading.
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Any studys on the Gene transcription ???? On my second week of S-4 and this shit scares me. Gonna take 2 weeks off now and only take a low dose before my work outs. :mad:
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i havent read or heard nothing, ive been reading logs and all kinds of shit dating back to the 2009 with no sides ever mentioned other than the vision, and nothing even in that other than the temporary thing. no long term effects so far.. at least in my readings
 
Im taking S4 and Osta right now, but just have added S4 and this thing is da shit. Sweating like a MOFO and loving the feeling.


Posted with my Droid EO Forum App
 
Oh gotta a question!

Should I take'em with or without food?

Posted with my Droid EO Forum App
 
^^^^ I took it for 6 days and 1 off the first week and this week Ive been off for 2 days , Dosing from 50 to 75 mg a day . Been waking up the past three days early and noticed the night blindness ( like half my vision would be gone ) It would come back once I turned my lights on. Too weird for me.
 
well, everything affects ppl different. that sucks for u dude. from what i here s4 is the shit (in a good way ) and i cant wait to get my stuff
 
yep just came yesterday. figuring in about a month or so ill be on it once i hit my deload phase and start a new workout cycle. cant wait
 
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