Alcohol during cycle?

[Shaitan]

I have read alot about that you shall never drink alcohol during a cycle. My question is, do you completley eliminate all the gains from Sustanon if you drink alcohol? Or is it more like you will gain a 50% of what you would have gained without drinking?

What happens with the test in the body when you add alcohol? Do the alcohol kinda strike out the test or what?

 

[dali]

It's hard on your liver if you drink while taking orals. If you're just taking injects a drink every now and then won't hurt at all. As long as you're not going out getting hammered every night I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[BIGJAKE]

well you def. do not want to drink wile on but A DRINK of so is not going to kill you.but dont get crazy bro

 

[gregory]

In reality drinking is fine when "on" as long as you're not doing the type of a cycle that requires weekly blood tests for kidney and liver functions, lol!

I ALWAYS drank when on cycle. BUT when i drank it would be a couple of pints of beer and that's it, once per week. This did not hinder my gains any and if anything it made them better because i fealt more relaxed and rested the next day. Moderation is the key to everything, drinking, cycling and your protein intake. Balance balance balance.

 

[jeb0177]

don't drink period. do you know how many weeks it takes for the test to accumulate in your blood and feel the so called kick???? 2-3 weeks maybe? when you drink you kill all that accumulated testosterone or any other aas. guess what? you will have to start all over again brother another 2-3 weeks to fermentate you blood with test, what does that make you? start and start and start all over again and again and again. equals SLLOOOOWWW WORTHLESS GAAAINNSSS!! if you do AAS don't drink and if you drink don't do AAS>>> simple as that!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mini Viper]

yeah I agree with jeb0177,

drinking is a "no no" when on cycle I would hate to see hindered shitty gains and I like my liver in working order!!

 

[bullcocky]

Dude.....if you want to go out and enjoy yourself with some drinks........go for it. What is the point in having a nice body if you cannot enjoy it. If you are preparing for a bodybuilding competition its a different story (don't drink). You just have to ask yourself, do you work out and use steroids to look good or do you do it because you are a competitive bodybuilder. For me, it is to look good.....if anybody tells you different, they are lying. Just don't drink your cycle away with alcohol. It will not hurt once a week or biweekly....its up to you. Make sure that you are of from your work out the next day because trying to lift weights with a hangover is gym suicide!

 

[wootoom]

i agree going out once or so on cycle wont kill you. especially if you are injecting not so much strain on the liver

 

[jeb0177]

Make sure that you are of from your work out the next day because trying to lift weights with a hangover is gym suicide!

that's exactly what i'm talking about. why do roids when you drink? it's worthless, you're just waisting your time in the gym and your money because roids are not cheap though you're throwing your money away. I drink every 3 - 4 months after I finish my pct there's nothing wrong with it but not in cycle, I see your point of view, you can do what ever you want to do with your body and your money! I can have fun without alcohol and fuck girls without having a drink.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

don't drink period. do you know how many weeks it takes for the test to accumulate in your blood and feel the so called kick???? 2-3 weeks maybe? when you drink you kill all that accumulated testosterone or any other aas. guess what? you will have to start all over again brother another 2-3 weeks to fermentate you blood with test, what does that make you? start and start and start all over again and again and again. equals SLLOOOOWWW WORTHLESS GAAAINNSSS!! if you do AAS don't drink and if you drink don't do AAS>>> simple as that!!!!!!!!!!!!

What makes you think that alcohol will wipe out the Test circulating in your blood ?

 

[liquidmuscle]

imo bodybuilding is a way of life and getting drunk is another there is no inbetween, when i picked up the weights i put down the beer/liquor. Dont get me wrong i have a occasional beer/drink(off cycle) but i dont party like i use to just my 2cents

 

[bullcocky]

What makes you think that alcohol will wipe out the Test circulating in your blood ?

this is a good point......for those of you that think that alcohol is cycle suicide.....give some reasons why alcohol will hinder gains. you are not throwing your money away. Its not like you are not going to see the extra 10lbs that you would have had if you had not picked up that cocktail.

 

[glennds]

don't drink period. do you know how many weeks it takes for the test to accumulate in your blood and feel the so called kick???? 2-3 weeks maybe? when you drink you kill all that accumulated testosterone or any other aas. guess what? you will have to start all over again brother another 2-3 weeks to fermentate you blood with test, what does that make you? start and start and start all over again and again and again. equals SLLOOOOWWW WORTHLESS GAAAINNSSS!! if you do AAS don't drink and if you drink don't do AAS>>> simple as that!!!!!!!!!!!!

i don't buy this. there is some chemical reaction that breaks down test in your blood when you consume alcohol from time to time?

it does make sense not to party hard while on cycle because it will screw up your regular workout/sleeping/eating schedule. it also is logical not to tax you liver with the combination of AAS and too much drinking. but hell, live a little.

 

[jeb0177]

What makes you think that alcohol will wipe out the Test circulating in your blood ?

I read it in "the effects of alcohol in the blood book" it said that it reduces your test levels drastically, that it kills your neurons of your brain and when you're in the mid 30's or as you're getting older it's harder and harder to get those neurons reproduce back and blah blah blah blah.

what makes you think that It will NOT afect your gains? per say, you're taking dbol and you're aiming for the dbol to accumulate in your system right? what makes you think it will not affect you as far as accumulation, if you're drinking pissing dehydrating.????????????????????????

 

[bullcocky]

imo bodybuilding is a way of life and getting drunk is another there is no inbetween, when i picked up the weights i put down the beer/liquor. Dont get me wrong i have a occasional beer/drink(off cycle) but i dont party like i use to just my 2cents

You are so dedicated man.....I think that with some hard work and strong determination, I could be just like you some day!

 

[jeb0177]

Oh well.. I think bodybuilding and alcohol don't mix period. I guess it depends on how dedicated your are. right?

 

[Shaitan]

Im not in any way a bodybuilder, I do this for feeling good and looking my best. Training for me its a good way to prevent my panic disorder to get out of hand. But I WANT to grow when on a cycle, im doing sust 500mg ew (my first REAL cycle, not counting the time i took 25mg dbol per day and ate like 2000 cals at most, a big waste) for 10 weeks and I am into my 4th week now but havent noticed much gains yet. I have gone out drinking like once a week during this cycle, wich is pretty much for me, usually go out drinking like 1 time per month.
The reason for my upped alcohol usage is that its summer and in sweden (where I live) the summer is short and you dont wanna miss the fun.

jeb0177´s posts really scare me tho, I can live with the fact that I would just g et about 50% of the gains I should have had if I didnt drink, but if jeb0177 is right I may as well not gain anything

Well as I said Im at the beginning of my 4th week and have got about 6-7 pounds since my first injection. It may just be water but I think its some weight to because I am eating more than I ever have done (about 3800 cals a day of wich 250g is protein), noticed some smaller strenght gains to, guess thats because of the fast acting esters in sustanon. Well if I feel the sustanon kick in for real within 2 weeks I know if jeb0177 is right or not.

 

[RedBird21]

Yeah its your own call. Of course its going to hold you back, but its not going to kill you. Up to you to decide what you are after and how succesfull you want your cycle to be. Do what you want

 

[Big Rick Rock]

I read it in "the effects of alcohol in the blood book" it said that it reduces your test levels drastically, that it kills your neurons of your brain and when you're in the mid 30's or as you're getting older it's harder and harder to get those neurons reproduce back and blah blah blah blah.

what makes you think that It will NOT afect your gains? per say, you're taking dbol and you're aiming for the dbol to accumulate in your system right? what makes you think it will not affect you as far as accumulation, if you're drinking pissing dehydrating.????????????????????????

Well... Since all of the injectable gear is suspended in a solution that contains up to 5% Alcohol and the Alcohol there never damages the gear...

I just didn't see how Alcohol in your blood would have an impact, specialy since it never get up any where near 5% or you would be dead.

I do see what you are saying about dehydrating possibly flushing out some of the gear.

 

[jeb0177]

Im not in any way a bodybuilder, I do this for feeling good and looking my best. Training for me its a good way to prevent my panic disorder to get out of hand. But I WANT to grow when on a cycle, im doing sust 500mg ew (my first REAL cycle, not counting the time i took 25mg dbol per day and ate like 2000 cals at most, a big waste) for 10 weeks and I am into my 4th week now but havent noticed much gains yet. I have gone out drinking like once a week during this cycle, wich is pretty much for me, usually go out drinking like 1 time per month.
The reason for my upped alcohol usage is that its summer and in sweden (where I live) the summer is short and you dont wanna miss the fun.

jeb0177´s posts really scare me tho, I can live with the fact that I would just g et about 50% of the gains I should have had if I didnt drink, but if jeb0177 is right I may as well not gain anything

Well as I said Im at the beginning of my 4th week and have got about 6-7 pounds since my first injection. It may just be water but I think its some weight to because I am eating more than I ever have done (about 3800 cals a day of wich 250g is protein), noticed some smaller strenght gains to, guess thats because of the fast acting esters in sustanon. Well if I the sustanon to kick in for real within 2 weeks I know if jeb0177 is right or not.

I was like you bro, I would go out drink with girls and things like that, and it's fun isn't it?. anyways, about two years ago I decited to stop drinking and just lift, rest, eat take care of my body more. anways that is not the point here. next time when you do a cycle try not to drink and you will notice that your gains will be great, you will be satisfied. the reason that I'm suggesting that is because that's what I did. ahhahahah! good luck bro!!!! you're bad ass!

 

[PELIFE99]

imo bodybuilding is a way of life and getting drunk is another there is no inbetween, when i picked up the weights i put down the beer/liquor. Dont get me wrong i have a occasional beer/drink(off cycle) but i dont party like i use to just my 2cents

AGREED!

Eventhough i hava drink now and then, this i what i'm gonig for. never partied like i used to anymore. and i love it! no hangovers, better gains!

 

[jeb0177]

Well... Since all of the injectable gear is suspended in a solution that contains up to 5% Alcohol and the Alcohol there never damages the gear...

I just didn't see how Alcohol in your blood would have an impact, specialy since it never get up any where near 5% or you would be dead.

I do see what you are saying about dehydrating possibly flushing out some of the gear.

most of the gear has .9% of ba (benzyl Alcohol) for vacterial purposes only. this is like the never ending story huh? but that's cool, I guess is up to the person how good you want your cycle to be. bro believe me sometimes I miss going to parties and getting waisted, but hey I'm not poking myself for nothing. IMO I'm in my pct state right now, I'm waiting to finish to get me my reward A COLD DEATH BUDLIGHT!!!! HAHAHAH! keep lifting hard & good luck bro!

 

[Big Rick Rock]

most of the gear has .9% of ba (benzyl Alcohol) for vacterial purposes only. this is like the never ending story huh? but that's cool, I guess is up to the person how good you want your cycle to be. bro believe me sometimes I miss going to parties and getting waisted, but hey I'm not poking myself for nothing. IMO I'm in my pct state right now, I'm waiting to finish to get me my reward A COLD DEATH BUDLIGHT!!!! HAHAHAH! keep lifting hard & good luck bro!

Bacterial purposes only? Wow! this whole time I thought that I needed the BA and EA in my home brew to get the darn hormones to go into suspension. I guess I was wrong.
When you say ".9%" do you mean, nine tenths of one percent?
Bro I wish I was cooking my gear in your kitchen, this whole time I was using between 5% - 7% BA/EA to get my gear into suspension.


I think one of us doesn't know what he is talking about... I hope its not me.



I do agree that drinking while on should be kept to a minimum. A few beers once per week or once every other week is fine... Getting smashed is NOT a good thing, even if you only do it once per month!

 

[jeb0177]

Bacterial purposes only? Wow! this whole time I thought that I needed the BA and EA in my home brew to get the darn hormones to go into suspension. I guess I was wrong.
When you say ".9%" do you mean, nine tenths of one percent?
Bro I wish I was cooking my gear in your kitchen, this whole time I was using between 5% - 7% BA/EA to get my gear into suspension.


I think one of us doesn't know what he is talking about... I hope its not me.



I do agree that drinking while on should be kept to a minimum. A few beers once per week or once every other week is fine... Getting smashed is NOT a good thing, even if you only do it once per month!

5% WOW! it must be painful huh?

 

[Shaitan]

I was like you bro, I would go out drink with girls and things like that, and it's fun isn't it?. anyways, about two years ago I decited to stop drinking and just lift, rest, eat take care of my body more. anways that is not the point here. next time when you do a cycle try not to drink and you will notice that your gains will be great, you will be satisfied. the reason that I'm suggesting that is because that's what I did. ahhahahah! good luck bro!!!! you're bad ass!

Yup, next cycle is gonna be alcohol free I started this cycle at a very bad time (summertime as you all know by now) and I can live with the fact that I wont get as much out of this cycle as I could have gotten. All I really want to know is if I am gonna get anything at all from this cycle or if its just a waste of gear. From the info in the posts in this thread I get the feeling that I could get about 50% effectivness atleast? If so I will keep on shooting.

Thanks for all feedback on this, to bad there doesnt seem to be much research done on this matter.

 

[jeb0177]

bigrickrock,
i dont use BA in enan, eq or deca. Just oil and hormone. BA in my mind is nothing more than a water soluable solvent. i never heard of BA for sterility til i went on this board and a few others. Everyone was preaching the sterility properties of BA. Hell they made it sound like you could put BA on a freaking cow turd and shoot it safely. Well to say the least I posted several studies to disprove these renegade theories. Got booted off one board for preaching the truth. It was odd though as i went back later under a diff name and those guys had changed their tune. funny stuff. BA IS NOTHIG BUT SOLVENT AND STERILITY PROPERTIES.

but to answer you question. No ba required in oil souable esterfied hormones. filter and bake and know you are safe.

 

[jeb0177]

Bacterial purposes only? Wow! this whole time I thought that I needed the BA and EA in my home brew to get the darn hormones to go into suspension. I guess I was wrong.
When you say ".9%" do you mean, nine tenths of one percent?
Bro I wish I was cooking my gear in your kitchen, this whole time I was using between 5% - 7% BA/EA to get my gear into suspension.
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What are you doing and what concentration?

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Bacterial purposes only? Wow! this whole time I thought that I needed the BA and EA in my home brew to get the darn hormones to go into suspension. I guess I was wrong.
When you say ".9%" do you mean, nine tenths of one percent?
Bro I wish I was cooking my gear in your kitchen, this whole time I was using between 5% - 7% BA/EA to get my gear into suspension.
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What are you doing and what concentration?

Tprop and Tren Acetate.

 

[jeb0177]

concentration bro?

 

[Big Rick Rock]

concentration bro?

125 TP / 75 TA

 

[jeb0177]

Short esters 200mg/ml may well not work with no BA not sure. It works in dazed's oil from what I'm told, which I'll be using myself soon.

 

[tlee12]

@Bullcocky if u think the only reason people take steroids or testosterone is so they can look good or compete for a show your a fucking idiot.

What about all the athletes lifting to better themselves at their sport, what about all the people who have troubles controlling their anger and find means through the gym, what about all the people who need something to progress at everyday because the rest of their life isn't working out, what about all the people rehabilitating injuries?