AI during cycle and PCT for this complex 15 weeker.

[Beachbum1546]

1-15 Test Prop 500mg/wk
1-15 NPP 200mg/wk
3-11 Tren Ace 525mg/wk
7-15 Winny 700mg/wk


What AI's for GYNO should I have? I was thinking bromocriptine for the deca/tren related gyno and AIFM for test related gyno.

Should I run HCG for PCT? HCG, AIFM, and nolva a good PCT? With the AIFM, do I even need nolva?

 

[Mr.X]

1-15 Test Prop 500mg/wk
1-15 NPP 200mg/wk
3-11 Tren Ace 525mg/wk
7-15 Winny 700mg/wk


What AI's for GYNO should I have? I was thinking bromocriptine for the deca/tren related gyno and AIFM for test related gyno.

Should I run HCG for PCT? HCG, AIFM, and nolva a good PCT? With the AIFM, do I even need nolva?

You can go with Arimidex at .5mgs to 1mg ED. Keep nolvadex on hand just in case. As for the bromo, you should try dostinex instead.

With tren, you can go with HCG + nolva for PCT.

 

[Beachbum1546]

You can go with Arimidex at .5mgs to 1mg ED. Keep nolvadex on hand just in case. As for the bromo, you should try dostinex instead.

With tren, you can go with HCG + nolva for PCT.

Thanks for the advice. I just checked AG-guys and holy moly, dostinex is 200 bucks! Price is kinda important, sorry.

Is 30ml @ 0.25mg/ML a large amount? What kind of dosages should I use if gyno symptoms occur?

What is the benefit for dostinex over bromo?

 

[Mr.X]

Thanks for the advice. I just checked AG-guys and holy moly, dostinex is 200 bucks! Price is kinda important, sorry.

Is 30ml @ 0.25mg/ML a large amount? What kind of dosages should I use if gyno symptoms occur?

What is the benefit for dostinex over bromo?

Generic dostinex from buydostx is about $100 more, so it's a favorable price over the internationl buydostnx. That's where people usually pick up dostinex.

.25mgs E3D is what I suggest, but I see people running .5mgs 2x/wk. It's up to you if you want to use bromo or dostinex; don't take my word for it, do a bit of research about it. Studies on both of the products are variable.


*************some dostinex vs. bromocriptine info**********
In a another clinical trial involving approximately 450 subjects, Dostinex was compared with bromocriptine in treating hyperporlactinemia. In the eight-week, double blind trial, prolactin levels returned to normal in 77% of subjects treated with Dostinex (0.5mg twice weekly) compared to 59% of those treated with bromocriptine (2.5 mg twice-daily). Restoration of menses occurred in 77% of women treated with Dostinex, compared to 70% of those treated with bromocriptine.
Among subjects with galactorrhea (excessive breast milk discharge), the symptom disappeared in 73% of those treated with Dostinex, compared to 56% of 231 subjects taking bromocriptine.

Side Effects:
Clinical studies also showed the safety profile of Dostinex compares favorably to bromocriptine. Just 2% of 221 subjects taking Dostinex discontinued treatment due to side effects during the eight-week study, versus 60% of 231 subjects taking bromocriptine. Nausea is the most common side effect of both drugs. During the eight-week, double-blinded portion of the trial, 29% of subjects experienced nausea with Dostinex compared with 43% of those taking bromocriptine.

Study proves:

• Dostinex is more potent in treating hyperporlactinemia than Bromocriptine
• Dostinex is more potent in treating excessive breast milk discharge than Bromocriptine
• Dostinex side-effects are milder (if any), Parlodel side-effects are more severe and probable

 

[Beachbum1546]

Great post. I'll definatly stick with dostinex now. All I have to do now is take a bank loan out, I keed I keed.

 

[Beachbum1546]

I just realized that if I spend 200 bucks at AG-guys I get 2 bottle free. That means if I buy the dostinex ($200) I can get my Nolvadex and Arimidex for free! Now, that makes it worth it.

 

[Ulter]

I have a question. Why do you want to use dostinex? Have you ever had prolactin side effects before? The reason I ask is that it's extremely rare. The sides commonly caused by tren/deca are because they are progestins. Dostinex won't help that at all.

Unless you have some reason to think you have a prolactin issue you're wasting your money on it. You're fine with AIFM and nolvadex. Use them right through your PCT and use HCG right after your last shot.

 

[flyingjer]

I have a question. Why do you want to use dostinex? Have you ever had prolactin side effects before? The reason I ask is that it's extremely rare. The sides commonly caused by tren/deca are because they are progestins. Dostinex won't help that at all.

Unless you have some reason to think you have a prolactin issue you're wasting your money on it. You're fine with AIFM and nolvadex. Use them right through your PCT and use HCG right after your last shot.

i thought prolactin and progesterone are related, if you keep prolactin in check, along with estrogen, no progesterone problems, am i wrong?

 

[Beachbum1546]

I have a question. Why do you want to use dostinex? Have you ever had prolactin side effects before? The reason I ask is that it's extremely rare. The sides commonly caused by tren/deca are because they are progestins. Dostinex won't help that at all.

Unless you have some reason to think you have a prolactin issue you're wasting your money on it. You're fine with AIFM and nolvadex. Use them right through your PCT and use HCG right after your last shot.

I've never even used tren or deca before so honestly I have no idea. I just figured I'd be prepared just incase. But if you say otherwise I'll look into that.

Thanks, Ulter.

 

[Ulter]

You shouldn't take it just to take it. Esp for what it costs. There are over 5000 people on my board and only a handful have ever had prolactin side effects.

 

[Beachbum1546]

The sides commonly caused by tren/deca are because they are progestins. Dostinex won't help that at all.

Quick question on terminology. What is a progestin? How do I combat that?

 

[Ulter]

It is a synthetic form of Progesterone. A female hormone that causes gyno. Progestins act like Progesterone and can cause gyno.

 

[Beachbum1546]

It is a synthetic form of Progesterone. A female hormone that causes gyno. Progestins act like Progesterone and can cause gyno.

What do recommend to prevent/combat that?

 

[Ulter]

There is very little you can do directly. Just using AIFM will help with Progesterone expression so you should be fine with that.