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advices on testoviron cycle

BigUncle

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HI guys,
I'm new to the forum and This is my first cycle.
I have some Testoviron on hand and would use it for 10 weeks at 500mg: 250mg twice a week (probably sunday-thursday).
It's good to take any AI during, in order to avoid gyno and water retention? And what about pct?



thanks for the help and sorry for my english but I'm from Italy
 
for the PCT I think something like this:
1,000 IUs hcg 3x/wk (mon/wed/fri)+ 20 mgs Nolvadex ED + 50 mgs Clomid ED for the first 3 weeks. After, discontinue hcg and continue with 20 mgs Nolvadex ED and 50 mgs Clomid ED for an additional 3 weeks. Is it ok?...
 
HI guys,
I'm new to the forum and This is my first cycle.
I have some Testoviron on hand and would use it for 10 weeks at 500mg: 250mg twice a week (probably sunday-thursday).
It's good to take any AI during, in order to avoid gyno and water retention? And what about pct?



thanks for the help and sorry for my english but I'm from Italy

Hi Mr. Italy. Welcome to EF.
In order to get good advice you should provide the following info:
Height:
Weight:
Age:
Body fat percentage:
Exercise information (history & technique):
Diet information:
Supplements/medications being taken:

Good luck!
 
HI guys,
I'm new to the forum and This is my first cycle.
I have some Testoviron on hand and would use it for 10 weeks at 500mg: 250mg twice a week (probably sunday-thursday).
It's good to take any AI during, in order to avoid gyno and water retention? And what about pct?



thanks for the help and sorry for my english but I'm from Italy

Yes I would definitely use an AI.
For PCT 2 weeks after you last injection,,
begin NOLVA/CLOMID.
 
Hi Mr. Italy. Welcome to EF.
In order to get good advice you should provide the following info:
Height:
Weight:
Age:
Body fat percentage:
Exercise information (history & technique):
Diet information:
Supplements/medications being taken:

Good luck!

HI, thanks for the answer.
Height: 183cm
Weight: 87 kg
Age 25
Bf: 11% (with a bad distribution: monstly of the fat is on lower back and quads).
2011 is the fifth year of training. I train 4 days a week and I use to altarnate HIT and High Volume routines. (now I'm on an HIT routine with heavy sets (5x5) on fundamental exercises).
I'm supplementing with Bcaa pre and during w.o., C-bol and Hemavol pre w.o. and EAA post w.o. multi vitamin (animal pack), 2g of lclt and omega-3.
I follow a carb cycling approach eating about 2200kcal (200cho/220pro/60 fats) on training days and 2000kcal (150cho/220pro/60 fats) on rest days. On sunday I eat as a training day plus a free meal in order to rise calories. I have certanly to increase that intake when I will be on cycle. (every useful advice, in this sense, is well accepted )

That's all, but feel free to do other questions. I can also post the last test for testo and estro.

Thanks
 
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I have some questions:

Is HCG necessary for a test only cycle of this length? If yes when I have to start it (last week of testo, wait about 2 weeks to start the SERM after the last shot of Test,and stop hcg 2 weeks before finishing SERM?) and if I use HCG does that mean that I should also use Nolva to combat the desensitizing affect of HCG on the leydig cells?
As pct: I think clomid at 100/100/100/50 is better than nolva 20/20/20/20 because of nolva has been shown to reduce IGF-1 and GH levels when used alone and I think it has no real advantage unless one is experiencing gyno
To avoid too much water retention and bad side effects that come with high estrogen (like gyno) during cycle, what kind of AI could I use? Nolva at 20mg daily?
After PCT I plan to take some testo booster to help increase endogenous testosterone production together with something to reduce cortisol and promote strength (creatineor some pre w.o.)
 
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