Advice

[superflex02]

I had a friend come to me the other day asking about this cycle & pct.. while I'm not the best guy to give advice on that I told him I'd do some research and also mentioned I thought the cycle was a little ridiculous but it's his choice.(i've only ran a test cycle).

So I'm curious what your thoughts would be on PCT for this....

1-12weeks Test E 500mg/W
1-8weeks EQ 600mg/W
13-18weeks Test P 100mg EOD
13-16weeks Tren A 100mg EOD
13-16weeks Winstrol 50mg ED

Weeks 13-17 is going to be leading up into a competition, dropping the tren & the winstrol one week out and running the prop another 2 weeks at the same dose. No HCG would be run on cycle.

In the stickied post above needto mentioned that forma-stanzol, unleashed & post-cycle and is all that is needed for PCT. So, is that what you all would recommend, or do you suggest a different approach to PCT?

"The Unleashed and post cycle combo is sold dirt cheap at ntbm and together along with the forma-stanzol it covers all aspects of PCT."

 

[Flash421]

How about some info on your friend age?
Height?
Weight?
Past cycles?
And his goals he trying to reach and we will be able to help more

 

[megadad]

Thats a long cycle and from what I have read and researched he is definately gonna need some HCG after the Tren and Eq. The forma, unleashed and post cycle are great things from what I have seen and read but I have yet to try myself. I personally am steering clear and far from any Clomid or Nolvadex after lots of research on that stuff for PCT. HCG worked great for me for my past Test Cyp and Deca cycles. More info on your friend would be helpful tho....

 

[superflex02]

How about some info on your friend age?
Height?
Weight?
Past cycles?
And his goals he trying to reach and we will be able to help more

I'm not his personal secretary, but he's about 5'10, 190(if he cut down I'm sure he'd be around 180ish), and to my knowledge he's ran 10week sust250 cycle and a 12 week test e/deca cycle(I don't know what he ran for PCT on these or if he did and the details of the cycle). This would be a cycle running pre-contest, so I'm just going to guess for him but put on as much lean mass as possible then cut for the contest. He's got his diet locked in as well. What are your suggestions on a PCT for the cycle I posted above.. would the 3 needto products do it? He's told me he doesn't have any interest in running HCG for the cycle.

For all I know he could already know what he's going to do & just be checking me on my knowledge of aas recovery. That's besides the point though.

eta; also he's 26.

 

[megadad]

He's told me he doesn't have any interest in running HCG for the cycle.
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I'm curious what his reasoning is against HCG use......please explain what he has told u....

 

[needtogetaas]

I had a friend come to me the other day asking about this cycle & pct.. while I'm not the best guy to give advice on that I told him I'd do some research and also mentioned I thought the cycle was a little ridiculous but it's his choice.(i've only ran a test cycle).

So I'm curious what your thoughts would be on PCT for this....

1-12weeks Test E 500mg/W
1-8weeks EQ 600mg/W <---(worthless if run less then 12 weeks and best if run 14 on more)
13-18weeks Test P 100mg EOD
13-16weeks Tren A 100mg EOD
13-16weeks Winstrol 50mg ED

Weeks 13-17 is going to be leading up into a competition, dropping the tren & the winstrol one week out and running the prop another 2 weeks at the same dose. No HCG would be run on cycle.

In the stickied post above needto mentioned that forma-stanzol, unleashed & post-cycle and is all that is needed for PCT. So, is that what you all would recommend, or do you suggest a different approach to PCT?

I like that he has switched to shorter esters at the end of the cycle but at the same time less then 12 weeks of eq is kind of a waste. Also the pct that is laid out here is good start ^^^^
For a long cycle like the one he has planed a blast of hcg 500iues twice a week for weeks 4-8 and 2-26 would be good. If he is not willing to use hcg then tell him to get some hcgenerate and run that in its place 3 caps am and 2 caps pm.. Tell him he can add 1 cap twice a day phytoserm-347 to his pct and then follow up his pct with bridge 1 cap 3 times a day for extended recovery which is often needed after tren and or deca

 

[superflex02]

I like that he has switched to shorter esters at the end of the cycle but at the same time less then 12 weeks of eq is kind of a waste. Also the pct that is laid out here is good start ^^^^
For a long cycle like the one he has planed a blast of hcg 500iues twice a week for weeks 4-8 and 2-26 would be good. If he is not willing to use hcg then tell him to get some hcgenerate and run that in its place 3 caps am and 2 caps pm.. Tell him he can add 1 cap twice a day phytoserm-347 to his pct and then follow up his pct with bridge 1 cap 3 times a day for extended recovery which is often needed after tren and or deca

I've been doing a little research and if what I've read the only main reason for taking HCG during cycle is to maintain testicular size(and also to take this step out of PCT). Two things come to mind about this, 1) if there isn't any noticeable shrinkage, is it still necessary? 2) If he's completely against running HCG, would it be needed to run something like arimidex along with your products to keep estrogen low?