Advice?????

[Kidda]

Hey all,

I'm new to this forum. I'm 22 yrs old. I started training just before age 18; I trained for about 1yr and 3 months but through misinformation I didn't train extremely well but still managed to go from 140lbs (11%bf) to 190lbs (16%bf) at 5ft 11. I then went travelling in a year out and didnt work out for 6 months and went down to around 160lbs. I then hit the gym again like a pschopath and have been working out for about 2 - 2 1/2 years going up to my current weight of 252 (19% bf). I as of yet am completely natural. I am now in two minds as to whether or not make the best of my natural potential until I am 25 and then do my first cycle or to do my first cycle now. I have been doing a lot of research and am still undecided. If I do a cycle it was going to be 9weeks on 40mg per day of Anavar followed by 3 weeks on Clomid. I was also going to supplement with trib and cell tech for the duration. I thought this would be nice and mild for a first cycle. I know most would say just some test but I want one of the mildest for my first. I wold be happy with dropping a few % body fat and mabye 10lbs of hard muscle. Also would you say British Dragon was one of the better types of Anavar? And if I check a source on the british dragon website does that mean it is legit and and I will not get ripped off? (I hope this is not counted as source posting!)


I measured my weight at 251lbs today and acurately measured my bf with skinfold callipers to 4 sites at 19%. Also my current measurements are:

Chest: 48" relaxed - 50" flexed
Arms: 18"cold - 18.5"pumped up
Waist: 36" (too big lol)
Legs: 27.5"

My long term goals are to have a simaler build to chicagobuffedbod. Around 240 at 10%bf.

 

[Selfcentor]

Seems like you do a good job gainig weight and size naturally. Just make sure your diet is in check and training is still hardcore. I would suggest no gear adn doing a strict diet and change your work out routine for about 8 weeks adn see the results first. BUT i started my first cycle a few weeks ago and im 23 so 22 isent bad. Good luck. Listen to the more experienced peps on here!

 

[metalcavy]

Well, anabolic androgenic steroids are not going to drop body fat for you. Best case scenario is that they will help you hold onto the muscle that you've gained previously while you cut. That said, studies have shown that anavar is great for this purpose (particularly with regards to visceral stomach fat), so if you're going to do this anyways this a good choice. Others would also argue that you're too high in bodyfat to appreciate gains; I dispute this but it's still worth considering. Doing an anavar only cycle at that level will indeed suppress your HPT and you will lose your sex drive. If that's ok with you, more power to you.

That said, you're a big boy. 40mg anavar is enough for most but I would play it by ear with you, maybe +/- 10mg.

If you're gonna cut, consider some clenbuterol, an ECA stack, t3 or the like. Will definitely help.

Anavar is the only oral I would argue is ok to run for more than 8 weeks. 9 should be ok, but only because the c17 alkylation used for anavar is not as harsh as with other orals such as dianabol. Obviously, do not drink on cycle.

As with natural lifters, it's still difficult to put on muscle and burn fat at the same time and it requires meticulous attention to diet. From a strictly numerical standpoint it's impossible, but I've seen it happen. It's hard though.

Anavar is not really going to help you bulk up, and you may have too much bodyfat to notice the vascularity it produces, but it will definitely help you increase your strength. And what muscle you put on using anavar will stick around as long as diet and PCT aren't shit... especially because anavar does not put on water weight.

Throw in some creatine ethyl ester with your anavar if you choose to go through with it. Anavar makes creatine utilization much more effective.

Good luck regardless... don't forget to get some Liv 52 for liver support.

 

[manny78]

I started at about the same age so I cant really say dont do this and that. Now what would I do ? Personally anavar is a good choice, I would probably toss some kind of fat burner (clen, ECA...) as well with a good diet. Some will say wait, others go for it but at the end it's you....

 

[Thunderclap47]

Anavar is the only oral I would argue is ok to run for more than 8 weeks. 9 should be ok, but only because the c17 alkylation used for anavar is not as harsh as with other orals such as dianabol. Obviously, do not drink on cycle.

Anavar is pretty mild when compared to Dianabol. It's probably not a bad compound to start with. My buddy's starting an oral only anavar cycle very soon. I'll be sure to post up his progress once in a while.

 

[bigdofba]

Those are pretty impressive gains, 100 lbs in four years.

 

[chris69]

Anavar is pretty mild when compared to Dianabol. It's probably not a bad compound to start with. My buddy's starting an oral only anavar cycle very soon. I'll be sure to post up his progress once in a while.

I Cant beleive nobody mentioned Test, anyway stay away from the As that bloat you up,sounds like you need a good diet,and some lean musle mass,Your pretty big already.see what you look like with BF down to 12%, might change your outlook on the kind of gear you wanna Run. (IMO)

 

[Kidda]

Thanks for the advice guys - I'm going to think it over for the next couple of weeks and then decide. I'll keep you updated.