Advice please

[DJ_UFO]

hi guys...please give me some advice. What is better for a first mass cycle?. enanthate/deca or sust/deca?. and how much of each?. I'm an ectomorph working out from about 2 years, 27 years old, trying to bulk as much as possible..hehe. Thanks for all the info and all you experience over this board...
cheers!

 

[Johnny Cut]

500mg enant
400mg Deca

8-10 weeks

 

[TheDarkSideNinja]

Listen here....

Johnny Cut don't you think these #'s are just a lil bit out of range. Bro don't listen to that bull shit unless you want side effects out the ass. It's your 1st cycle for cryin out loud. For a 1st mass cycle stick with a single ester test. to see how your body reacts to A.S. Be smart after all you don't wanna end up like some with major probs now do you??? I suggest the highest you go is 500mgs but i recommend only 250 to make some nice gains. Now with this being said i think u still need more time in the gym and research b4 jumping into this. You say you've only been lifting 2 years??? How is your diet and training??? Without those you can take all the shit you want and bottom line is it ain't gon do shit for you!!! Just my opinion except for what Johnny said which i feel is shitty info. for a newbie!!! Check into the gains many have many off just 250-500 mgs. you will be amazed!!! ~JT~

 

[TECH ONE]

500mg enant
400mg Deca

8-10 weeks

I would either go with Johnny or maybe something like this:

Week 1-4 dbols @ 25-30mg ED
Week 1-10 Test @ 500mg/week
Then Clomid

Just eat like a mofo, train hard and you will see those results in no time!!! Good luck with the cycle bro!!

 

[Johnny Cut]

Re: Listen here....

Johnny Cut don't you think these #'s are just a lil bit out of range. Bro don't listen to that bull shit unless you want side effects out the ass. It's your 1st cycle for cryin out loud. For a 1st mass cycle stick with a single ester test. to see how your body reacts to A.S. Be smart after all you don't wanna end up like some with major probs now do you??? I suggest the highest you go is 500mgs but i recommend only 250 to make some nice gains. Now with this being said i think u still need more time in the gym and research b4 jumping into this. You say you've only been lifting 2 years??? How is your diet and training??? Without those you can take all the shit you want and bottom line is it ain't gon do shit for you!!! Just my opinion except for what Johnny said which i feel is shitty info. for a newbie!!! Check into the gains many have many off just 250-500 mgs. you will be amazed!!! ~JT~

sorry for my shitty advice, i must have no idea what i am talking about....i believe the question was

What is better for a first mass cycle?. enanthate/deca or sust/deca?. and how much of each?.

so read the fucking post u fucking moron

he wanted to know what doses of each,, fyi enanthate is a single ester, so wht the fuck are u talking about

and honsetly, do u think everyone reacts the same to diffrent types of AAS, i have never ran into any problems with deca WHATSOEVER,......


500mg test - most people will run this first cycle

400mg deca - 200mg is a waste imo, 400 is still below the 500mg of test, yes it will shut u off, that is what hcg is for, by running the test at a slightly higher dose it will help keep your sex drive up

the question was WHAT DOSES OF DECA AND ENANTHATE or Sust,

read the question and answer it, side effects out the ass??....i dont think so

 

[Johnny Cut]

Nandrolone has the benefit of being deactivated by the 5-alpha-reductase enzyme and being even less of a threat for acute androgenic side-effects. But alas, it is a very suppressive hormone that severely interferes with endogenous production of testosterone

~BigCat (www.bodybuilding.com/catsteroids)

and


http://www.intense-training.com/forums/showthread/t-974.html

 

[chanmanfoo]

hi guys...please give me some advice. What is better for a first mass cycle?. enanthate/deca or sust/deca?. and how much of each?. I'm an ectomorph working out from about 2 years, 27 years old, trying to bulk as much as possible..hehe. Thanks for all the info and all you experience over this board...
cheers!

depending on how much you weigh would say run the enan at 250/400mg and the deca at 200/300mg for 8/10 weeks. if your 200lbs or under the former would apply. but i think for a first cycle you should really only run one compound. and yes 200mg of deca can be very effective. good luck on your cycle.
foo

 

[fukinhuge]

i would suggest doing 10 wks of sus250 at 500mg per wk

 

[TheDarkSideNinja]

I agree...

With FukinHuge!!! Listen to him and u will be just fine or do what Tech One posted they look good for a beginner. Johnny Cut im not trying to sound like i know it all but u should be encouraging a newbie not to be using all that A.S. for a first cycle. F.Y.I i never said Enanthate wasn't a single ester and i recommend that for a first cycle. What i meant was i would use Enanthate over some blends like Sust., etc.. Hope i straightened it out for ya. Now im not saying u have no idea what your talking about because you've been there, done that...but why lead a newbie down a dangerous path by using 900mgs of A.S. huh??? Please explain the logic bro or i have nothing further to say!!!

 

[liftsiron]

TheDarkSideNinja Johnny Cut don't you think these #'s are just a lil bit out of range. Bro don't listen to that bull shit unless you want side effects out the ass. It's your 1st cycle for cryin out loud. For a 1st mass cycle stick with a single ester test. to see how your body reacts to A.S. Be smart after all you don't wanna end up like some with major probs now do you??? I suggest the highest you go is 500mgs but i recommend only 250 to make some nice gains. Now with this being said i think u still need more time in the gym and research b4 jumping into this. You say you've only been lifting 2 years??? How is your diet and training??? Without those you can take all the shit you want and bottom line is it ain't gon do shit for you!!! Just my opinion except for what Johnny said which i feel is shitty info. for a newbie!!! Check into the gains many have many off just 250-500 mgs. you will be amazed!!! ~JT~

I think that DarkSide is giving some sound advice, for your first cycle I would just stick with one drug at low to moderate doses, one amp of sust every four or five days should work wonders for you, PROVIDED that you train, eat and rest properly.

 

[TheDarkSideNinja]

Yup...

Thankx Liftsiron glad to see some peeps know what they are talkin about.

 

[DJ_UFO]

Thanks for the advices bros!...so sust alone is better for a first cycle?. I'd like to post some pics so you can do some more exact advices but i'm not plat. Than's very much for everyone anyway...