Advice on timing of weight gainer and Cell Mass

[kernel610]

I’m looking to get some input on the best time to take some supplements I’ve been using. To give you some background on myself, I am a 26 year old tall, skinny guy with a high metabolism. I used to lift a lot about 5 years ago in college and saw some small gains but nothing major and not much of it was visible. I was about average weight at the time so a lot of the working out ended up cutting that weight. During all of this I was using whey protein powder and tried a cycle of creatine (didn’t see results from). After college I got an office job and never had time to lift anymore. I’m looking to get back into it and hoping to get a lot more gains this time around. My problem before was that I wasn’t consuming enough calories for my workouts and high metabolism to see any significant gains. I researched weigh gainers and ended up purchasing Muscle Juice because it doesn’t seem to have nearly as much sugar as all of the others and was a good price for the calories and other nutrients. It’s lacking a little in the protein though. My plan is to start with half of the recommended dosage and add more if necessary based on my results. I also purchased Cell-Mass which I’ve heard great things about and had a friend who saw results with it. After thinking it through, I’m kind of thinking I should have bought products that were a little different, possibly the weight gainer and NOXplode. Cell-Mass recommends you take it once after working out and once before bed. I’ve read the same about Muscle Juice. Since I sit at a desk all day and workout so late in the day, what would the ideal times to take these be? Since I workout late in the day, loading up on everything towards the end of the day right before dinner probably won’t be the best idea for me. What I’ve been doing is taking the Muscle Juice around 10am and then the Cell-Mass right after the workout. Any suggestions/modifications you would make? I do eat a few snacks/small meals throughout the day as well but can supplement for gainer if recommended. I’m looking for results that are more noticeable visually without just gaining a ton of fat (I’m ok with a little fat). My schedule is below to help you understand the timing options. Also, Cell-Mass' recommended dose is once after working out and then again before bed. Since these times are only a few hours apart for me, should I take it in the morning and then after working out instead? I can't post links to the nutrition facts of the products since I am a new user but everything can be found on Netritions website or you can PM me and I'll send you the links. Any suggestions are welcomed!!

6:30am – Wake up & eat breakfast
9:00am – Go to work
12:00pm – Lunch
6:00pm – Leave work and go to the gym
7:30pm – Dinner
9:30pm – Go to bed

 

[Seattleborn206]

I’m looking to get some input on the best time to take some supplements I’ve been using. To give you some background on myself, I am a 26 year old tall, skinny guy with a high metabolism. I used to lift a lot about 5 years ago in college and saw some small gains but nothing major and not much of it was visible. I was about average weight at the time so a lot of the working out ended up cutting that weight. During all of this I was using whey protein powder and tried a cycle of creatine (didn’t see results from). After college I got an office job and never had time to lift anymore. I’m looking to get back into it and hoping to get a lot more gains this time around. My problem before was that I wasn’t consuming enough calories for my workouts and high metabolism to see any significant gains. I researched weigh gainers and ended up purchasing Muscle Juice because it doesn’t seem to have nearly as much sugar as all of the others and was a good price for the calories and other nutrients. It’s lacking a little in the protein though. My plan is to start with half of the recommended dosage and add more if necessary based on my results. I also purchased Cell-Mass which I’ve heard great things about and had a friend who saw results with it. After thinking it through, I’m kind of thinking I should have bought products that were a little different, possibly the weight gainer and NOXplode. Cell-Mass recommends you take it once after working out and once before bed. I’ve read the same about Muscle Juice. Since I sit at a desk all day and workout so late in the day, what would the ideal times to take these be? Since I workout late in the day, loading up on everything towards the end of the day right before dinner probably won’t be the best idea for me. What I’ve been doing is taking the Muscle Juice around 10am and then the Cell-Mass right after the workout. Any suggestions/modifications you would make? I do eat a few snacks/small meals throughout the day as well but can supplement for gainer if recommended. I’m looking for results that are more noticeable visually without just gaining a ton of fat (I’m ok with a little fat). My schedule is below to help you understand the timing options. Also, Cell-Mass' recommended dose is once after working out and then again before bed. Since these times are only a few hours apart for me, should I take it in the morning and then after working out instead? I can't post links to the nutrition facts of the products since I am a new user but everything can be found on Netritions website or you can PM me and I'll send you the links. Any suggestions are welcomed!!

6:30am – Wake up & eat breakfast
9:00am – Go to work
12:00pm – Lunch
6:00pm – Leave work and go to the gym
7:30pm – Dinner
9:30pm – Go to bed

I could go into when and what to take but it's pretty simple. Your not eating enough. You need to be eating a full meal every 2 hours. If you don't it doesn't really matter what you take your not gonna gain weight. You need to get your diet together before anything else.

 

[LeDauz]

I also agree with seattleborn, you should eat often and from what you posted your awake for 15 hours, so eating 3 times a day is way to little

 

[kernel610]

Thanks for all of the responses guys. I actually do eat a lot more than just the 3 meals I laid out. I'm still working on getting in the mindset of eating more than what I'm accustom to which I guess is why I laid out the meals like that. I usually have another meal around 10am and again around 3pm. I usually try to make the 3pm one more carb filled for my workout and the 10am is more protein.

With that said, any suggestions on the timing of the actual supplements? I'm not trying to use them to supplement eating meals, just to get more in me since I can't eat at my desk all day. I'm more concerned about taking the supplements too early/late from when I should be taking them. I want to get the optimal use from them by taking at the right time to maximize my workout. Any suggestions?

 

[WoodyO]

Save your money and dump that cell mass. You're paying a premium for that brand name. Eat more, then swap out the cell mass for some bulk creatine.

 

[IncredibleHoss]

muscletec. this stuff really works.

it should be Muscletech: This shit really sucks (and is overpriced)

I hope you didn't order at GNC. you get double what you buy online at need2m or even orbit.

 

[mryar]

I've always heard take a protein and dextrose shake right after a workout, to spike insulin and utilize igf-1 the best. Then I read this study Carbohydrate does not augment exercise-... [Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI But I'm not sure the researchers understood their findings. They say this

Exercise increased MPS and MPB (both P<0.05), but there were no differences between PRO and PRO+CARB in the rested or exercised legs. Phosphorylation of Akt was greater in the PRO+CARB than in the PRO trial (P<0.05); phosphorylations of Akt (P=0.05) and acetyl coA carboxylase-β (P<0.05) were greater after exercise than at rest.

MPS = muscle protein synthesis, MPB = muscle protein breakdown. They say there was no difference, but in the next sentence they say the "Phosphorylation of Akt was greater." Phos of akt is a sign protein synthesis is occurring. So I don't understand why they contradict themselves, unless I'm missing something.

Another thing to think about is these guys were not on AAS. Perhaps on AAS they would find much more protein synthesis with the addition of carbs.Also, the subjects were young men, but it doesn't say whether they were weight lifters or regular joe's.