advice on Dbol and Winni cycle

[boston789]

I have 5mg pink tabs and 5mg winni tabs. Should i take them together or dbol first and then winni? I know they are both hard on the liver. I'm thinking 4 weeks dbol and then 4 weeks winni........thanks bros

My advice is I wouldnt do a dbol/winny cycle.

 

[turbogreek]

Been married about 4 years now. She just kept going on about not being with somebody who took drugs and how she didnt want to see me change...as far as personality changes(rage i suppose.) Women get rage once a month on the blob......if i get angry she says "are you taking roids."
Double standard on their part. It just isn't worth the hassle to tell her.

i gotcha bro...what they don't understand is that it isn't drugs like coke or dope...it's a hormone. their hormones go nuts once a montth...why can't ours while on cycle? if they only knew the truth that rage is all in the person.

best of luck to you!

 

[Bruce]

first off, the whole liver thing is overblown. my best friend took winny 2 straight years non stop, no liver damage only cholesterol and blood platelette problems that were fixed. i took it for 6 months when i was young and uninformed. read about aids patients, they take up to 50mg ed of dbols for months at a time to keep there appetite up with no liver damage. however you are not gonna keep those gains and when you come off of dbol and have no test injectable in you, youre gonna feel like shit and not wanna work out i mean major depression. there is this common belief that you take dbol first blow up and then the winny will solidify your gains and cut you up. this is wrong. run 12 weeks of test and kickstart with dbol and then finish with winny so there is a 4 week break between the orals. otherwise get yourself some tbol and run it for 4 weeks by itself and you can put on around 10 lbs of lean mass with no sides whatsoever. anavar is also an option for oral only.

 

[digimon7068]

I think the safe rule is not to exceed 50mg per day of any 17aa. That said, there's a lot of people out there that are using anadrol at 100 and 150mg per day and it's supposedly the most liver toxic of all.

I don't think it really matters if you take them both at the same time, as long as you keep it at or below 50mg ed. IMO, you'll be happier with the results if you do the dbol first four weeks and the winstrol second four weeks.

I've done oral-only cycles (always including dbol or anadrol) and been satisfied with the results. . .however, PCT is ESPECIALLY important with an oral-only cycle. You should probably have nolva or adex and clomid on had (keeping with oral-only theme).

Also, while on , use some tylers.

 

[boston789]

Just curious...why 50mg? Even var...it is pretty mild.

 

[digimon7068]

Just curious...why 50mg? Even var...it is pretty mild.

I don't know, it's just one of those things that I've seen over and over again, here and other places and it's a rule that I've adhered to. All I can say is that, when using orals, I've never used less than 30mg per day or more than 50mg per day, I've always limited it to 6 or 7 weeks (on oral-only cycles), I've always been happy with the results and I've never had any health issues during or after one of these cycles.

I like the results that I get from injectable test better but, I don't really care to be jabbing myself with needles two times per year. So, I usually do one short (6 to 7 week) oral cycle per year (usually in the fall) after a longer injectable cycle in the spring.