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Advice for First Cycle and longevity Log

Tomandjerry

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I am 26yo 6’3 218 in the beginning/middle of a cut, currently about 12/13% BF. Last cut got down to 204 in the Fall before bulking up to 240. I started testosterone about 2-3 months ago through an online clinic. Initially with 140mg/week subq, twice weekly injections (clinic’s directions). After about 3 weeks I switched to IM 200mg/week, twice weekly injections (I hated the subq oil nodules and knew eventually needed IM for higher volumes anyways.) I ran that for a month just make sure no sides, have always had clear skin so didn’t want acne flare ups by jumping the dose too quick. Started 250mg/week about 2 weeks ago, inject every 3-4 days. I only pin my side delts right now with a 27g 1”. Easiest spot to pin, and to be frank, have always been scared to do a quad IM and have heard ventral glute is real technical to pin correctly. I am looking at starting my first cycle with the idea of Test only and slowly titrate up every 4 weeks to see how I respond. I am running Test Cypionate, but forums and one of the ebooks someone linked on here talk more about Test-E.

Just looking to get advice as I’m clearly an amateur to this and want to focus on the longevity of staying on Test without blowing through bloodwork and having to completely off temporarily. I’ve seen mixed opinions on pct, I want to have kids eventually, so I currently run 250iu of HCG twice a week (and have done so since first starting test). I train 5-6 days a week, usually 6 days a week just depending on body and recovery. Most commonly run a variation of PPL with usually a 3 on 1 off split. Daily protein is averaging around 220. Some days I’m lower around 180 and will increase the following day’s protein to around 260. I have been training for about 11 years, with 8 of those years being intense training in a commercial gym and not just bsing my way through high school sports lifting.



I tried to put as much detail as I could to start this log off. The pictures I attached are towards the end of the last cut (September 2025).

Health Supplements:
-Vitamin K2+D3
- DIM 300mg
- multivitamin
-Fish Oil 1200mg
- Zinc Picolinate 30mg
- TUDCA 250mg
- NAC 600mg
- Calcium D-Glucarate (5x/week)

Topic summary:

1: Preferred injection site besides delts

2: First cycle recs/Test C vs Test E

3: Advice on PCT/just coming down to a TRT dose after - trying to save fertility
 

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Easiest spot to pin
Pinning your lats bro.
Lats, chest quads ventral glutes delts. There my go to
2: First cycle recs/Test C vs Test E
Test is test at the end of the day, E,P,C,D or sus. It's all the same at the end of the day.

I feel test e, c done daily is best so smooth and keeps injection volumes low, especially so you can run insulin syringes
3: Advice on PCT/just coming down to a TRT dose after - trying to save fertility
In my openion you've started using you should blast/cruise. Run products like hcg, hmg to keep fertility.

I think you would also benefit from running hgh as well.

Use bio identical compounds before pushing steroids. If I could go back I would do it this way.

Test
Hgh
Insulin

Yes insulin is scary but there are plenty of people here that can help guide you to do things safe 👊👊💪


And welcome!!!
 
I only pin 1” since it’s delts. Would you recommend switching to 1.5 for lats, quad, and ventral glute? Start HGH 1 IU a day and work up to 2 IUs a day? I run HCG 250iu twice a week right now. Do I need to bump that up and/or start HMG? I’m not trying for kids right now, but would like them in the future. When I complete this first cycle, should I run pct or just lower weekly test to 150-200mg and continue with hcg
 
I only pin 1” since it’s delts. Would you recommend switching to 1.5 for lats, quad, and ventral glute? Start HGH 1 IU a day and work up to 2 IUs a day? I run HCG 250iu twice a week right now. Do I need to bump that up and/or start HMG? I’m not trying for kids right now, but would like them in the future. When I complete this first cycle, should I run pct or just lower weekly test to 150-200mg and continue with hcg
I would suggest 3.33iu's hgh to start

I just use insulin pins everywhere I'm lean I don't need the big needles only time I use them is if my single dosage is over 1ml at a time
 
I am 26yo 6’3 218 in the beginning/middle of a cut, currently about 12/13% BF. Last cut got down to 204 in the Fall before bulking up to 240. I started testosterone about 2-3 months ago through an online clinic. Initially with 140mg/week subq, twice weekly injections (clinic’s directions). After about 3 weeks I switched to IM 200mg/week, twice weekly injections (I hated the subq oil nodules and knew eventually needed IM for higher volumes anyways.) I ran that for a month just make sure no sides, have always had clear skin so didn’t want acne flare ups by jumping the dose too quick. Started 250mg/week about 2 weeks ago, inject every 3-4 days. I only pin my side delts right now with a 27g 1”. Easiest spot to pin, and to be frank, have always been scared to do a quad IM and have heard ventral glute is real technical to pin correctly. I am looking at starting my first cycle with the idea of Test only and slowly titrate up every 4 weeks to see how I respond. I am running Test Cypionate, but forums and one of the ebooks someone linked on here talk more about Test-E.

Just looking to get advice as I’m clearly an amateur to this and want to focus on the longevity of staying on Test without blowing through bloodwork and having to completely off temporarily. I’ve seen mixed opinions on pct, I want to have kids eventually, so I currently run 250iu of HCG twice a week (and have done so since first starting test). I train 5-6 days a week, usually 6 days a week just depending on body and recovery. Most commonly run a variation of PPL with usually a 3 on 1 off split. Daily protein is averaging around 220. Some days I’m lower around 180 and will increase the following day’s protein to around 260. I have been training for about 11 years, with 8 of those years being intense training in a commercial gym and not just bsing my way through high school sports lifting.



I tried to put as much detail as I could to start this log off. The pictures I attached are towards the end of the last cut (September 2025).

Health Supplements:
-Vitamin K2+D3
- DIM 300mg
- multivitamin
-Fish Oil 1200mg
- Zinc Picolinate 30mg
- TUDCA 250mg
- NAC 600mg
- Calcium D-Glucarate (5x/week)

Topic summary:

1: Preferred injection site besides delts

2: First cycle recs/Test C vs Test E

3: Advice on PCT/just coming down to a TRT dose after - trying to save fertility
you ripped bro welcome to EF

you get bloods before?

@Grumpy1 @abolone @Demon_throne @gar71
 
I am 26yo 6’3 218 in the beginning/middle of a cut, currently about 12/13% BF. Last cut got down to 204 in the Fall before bulking up to 240. I started testosterone about 2-3 months ago through an online clinic. Initially with 140mg/week subq, twice weekly injections (clinic’s directions). After about 3 weeks I switched to IM 200mg/week, twice weekly injections (I hated the subq oil nodules and knew eventually needed IM for higher volumes anyways.) I ran that for a month just make sure no sides, have always had clear skin so didn’t want acne flare ups by jumping the dose too quick. Started 250mg/week about 2 weeks ago, inject every 3-4 days. I only pin my side delts right now with a 27g 1”. Easiest spot to pin, and to be frank, have always been scared to do a quad IM and have heard ventral glute is real technical to pin correctly. I am looking at starting my first cycle with the idea of Test only and slowly titrate up every 4 weeks to see how I respond. I am running Test Cypionate, but forums and one of the ebooks someone linked on here talk more about Test-E.

Just looking to get advice as I’m clearly an amateur to this and want to focus on the longevity of staying on Test without blowing through bloodwork and having to completely off temporarily. I’ve seen mixed opinions on pct, I want to have kids eventually, so I currently run 250iu of HCG twice a week (and have done so since first starting test). I train 5-6 days a week, usually 6 days a week just depending on body and recovery. Most commonly run a variation of PPL with usually a 3 on 1 off split. Daily protein is averaging around 220. Some days I’m lower around 180 and will increase the following day’s protein to around 260. I have been training for about 11 years, with 8 of those years being intense training in a commercial gym and not just bsing my way through high school sports lifting.



I tried to put as much detail as I could to start this log off. The pictures I attached are towards the end of the last cut (September 2025).

Health Supplements:
-Vitamin K2+D3
- DIM 300mg
- multivitamin
-Fish Oil 1200mg
- Zinc Picolinate 30mg
- TUDCA 250mg
- NAC 600mg
- Calcium D-Glucarate (5x/week)

Topic summary:

1: Preferred injection site besides delts

2: First cycle recs/Test C vs Test E

3: Advice on PCT/just coming down to a TRT dose after - trying to save fertility
Welcome to EF brother , you’re looking in great shape already, so well done !! As @Demon_throne said, insulin pins, test and hgh are a great starting point and @the_alcatraz also mentioned blood work, which is real critical when on cycle. There are plenty of sites that show how to pin and the different sites you can use and sorry no pct advice from me, with 4 kids my baby days are over….
Anyway best of luck, you’ve made a great start , I’ll be following along 👊👊
 
Welcome to EF brother , you’re looking in great shape already, so well done !! As @Demon_throne said, insulin pins, test and hgh are a great starting point and @the_alcatraz also mentioned blood work, which is real critical when on cycle. There are plenty of sites that show how to pin and the different sites you can use and sorry no pct advice from me, with 4 kids my baby days are over….
Anyway best of luck, you’ve made a great start , I’ll be following along 👊👊
The only reasons I can see to not use slin pins for injections are if you are fat or if the shots are over 1ml. It's for that reason for my upcoming cycle I've broken everything down to daily.
 
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