advanced and elite gear users opinions needed

[georgie24]

ok i ran into a nice situation with rendered me with some extra $$$$ so i was gonna treat myself to a REALLY great cycle. im going to plop 1500.00 bucks on this cycle. NO TESTOSTERONE guys i can not use that crap.

cycle #1
human growth hormone @4 iu's ed for 6 months +25 mcg of t-3


cycle #2

human growth hormone@3 iu's ed +25mcg t-3 for 4 monthsand ANAVAR 30 mg ed for 8 weeks

goal is to spare muscle and get some strength whilst in caloric deficet and gain some strength WITH OUT side effcts of drugs like test/deca.

 

[psychedout]

I would ditch the gh (unless your over 30), and go for a primo/var stack.

400-600mg of primo
30-50mg of var

For 10 weeks.

 

[Mike P.T.]

I would ditch the gh (unless your over 30), and go for a primo/var stack.

400-600mg of primo
30-50mg of var

For 10 weeks.

That sounds much better. Combine that with a good thermogenic mix and if you really do decided to do t-3 make sure you cycle it on and off even with that light dose. This would be perfect for you. Maybe even do it longer - 12-14 weeks.

BTW - I too am done with test and deca.

 

[georgie24]

i dunno about injectables i went threw hell with eq/test. first run of cyp fucked me up so did the next 2 runs...then eq did me in as well.

 

[georgie24]

primo/var sounds killer though

 

[Mike P.T.]

I know too many people who wasted their money on GH. I mean real life people not just someone who told me on the internet. Friends of mine. Some like it but they were on a ton of shit as well. Most are dissappointed with it though.

 

[georgie24]

thanks mike. thats what im afraid of.

 

[WannaImpress]

georgie, are you prone to MPB? Not sure if that was you if that is so isn't Primo not a good choice?

 

[genarr3]

You don't say how old you are. The reason people ask this when we talk about HGH is if you're under 30 or so you won't be taking complete advantage of the benefits an older user would.
New Muscle Cells
Mood Enhancement
Smoothing and improving the skin
Leanness, it is a potent fat burner
Joint and ligament strengthening

A younger user would naturally be getting most of the above.

I'm using it right now and can tell you for sure that it's not the dramatic muscle growth drug some people think. It will add muscle, but not to any great degree that you couldn't get with a steroid.

It's also not without side effects. I'm experiencing joint pain and numbness in my hands. My chest workout yesterday was no fun at all; pressing movements are painful. I'm only at 4IU/ED for the past seven weeks, apparently I have a low tolerance. I know people do much higher doses, I for one wouldn't consider it. I'm actually going to drop to 3 IU/ED.

On the bright side my muscle/bodyfat composition change has been dramatic. I've never been this lean at my current weight of 235. Hell I don't think I've ever been this lean.

So your age and willingness to part with the bucks would be the deciding factor here. If you were on the younger side a higher dose of Anavar without the HGH probably would be the best choice. You of course could also add Primo as has been suggested.

However if you want to try something completely different give it a try.

 

[Mavy]

I would definately choose ...

cycle #3.
Primo: 600mgs/wk
Var: 50mgs/wk

psyhedout has the right idea. Can't get any better than that ... unless you want to bump the dosages up hhhehehehe. Definately forget the GH bro.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

I would definately choose ...

cycle #3.
Primo: 600mgs/wk
Var: 50mgs/wk

psyhedout has the right idea. Can't get any better than that ... unless you want to bump the dosages up hhhehehehe. Definately forget the GH bro.

Do you mean Var 50mgs/day?

 

[NJjuice22]

I'm on gh right now...4iu/day around week 6 and i have to say im VERY impressed with it..im 23 by the way...its not an amazing muscle builder but all the little things its doing are amazing, one my skin is smooth ass a baby's ass, even my glutes which get a tad rough from all the alcohol swabbing drying out my skin, im not using any creams or anything and my skin is smooth as silk, also i feel energized almost all the time, im sleeping 10x better (im a horrible sleeper), my muscles are full and pumped almost the entire day(first time ever), i had wrist pains for last few months and have not been able to do close grip bench or anything else that put strain on my wrists...well now 6 weeks in, my wrists feel great, almost zero numbness , no carpal tunnel whatsoever, it is awesome as far as being -anti catabolic..my reason for knowing this is that i started cardio a few weeks ago, normally i get flat and arms always shrink from doing cardio, now my arms are bigger than ever....im looking forward to the results in a couple months....i like number one because i think 4iu is a good dose to run but i would not use the t3 for the 6 month duration, could be hard on your thyroid when u stop, also i would absolutely throw an anabolic in there for the duration like anavar since you dont want to use test....im currently using Jin at 4iu's, test ent at 250mg/week and tren enanthate at 250mg/week...i know its not the test and fina causing these great results because i just started them at the beginning of this week.

 

[wutangnomo]

What would the expected results on a primo/anavar cycle be over the course of 8-10 weeks (say 400-600mg primo/30mg anavar)?

i dunno about injectables i went threw hell with eq/test. first run of cyp fucked me up so did the next 2 runs...then eq did me in as well.

Hey Georgie how do you mean it fucked you up? How so?

 

[monkey arms]

^^ I'm running that exact cycle right now^^ Love it! My skin is like silk I sleep like the dead and my strength is WAY up......I'm also running 600 mgs of EQ

 

[georgie24]

im 26 gennar