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Administering Tren w/DMSO
- Thread starter HiGear
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Is there any reason you don't want to inject the Tren ? The results will be much better.
M18
M18
I have tried this and found the half life of the acetate to be extremely short. Best results are daily injections. I would rather take a break from this. I heard from a few others about using DMSO. I have 70/30 DMSO, but I want to ensure maximal absorption. What is the best and safest method?
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DaddyX
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well oral fina is by far the worst at a usual only 20% absorbtion rate. sure alot of people do get decent results but injecting people get unreal results. transdermally will work as the absorbtion rate is about 80% if not a little less. so if not injecting go with dmso - it will burn your skin tho. i didn fina orally for a bit being stupid and it was pretty much usless shit. then i injected 150mgs eod and holy shit ! unreal results. it really does take your body to another level. i have done plenty of different compounds and nothing compares. o well,goodluck
freakazoid
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imo,transdermal is a waste of time but if you want to try it here is imo the most effective way.take about a tbs of dmso crush up 4-5 pellets as fine as you can get them.mix it up,right before you go to bed apply it around your ankles where you see all the veins.then take seran wrap(spell)you know,the plastic shit you cover food with and wrap it around your ankle.this will cause your ankle to sweat and will help with the absorption of the fina,and wont be as messy.then when you get up in the morning remove the wrap and all the dmso,fina will be gone.works well only side is you will have some DRY skin.
freakazoid
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HiGear said:
For transdermal I prefer the homebrew sprays. Some speak well of the plogel mixes (no comments as I haven't researched it).
The DMSO route, though it works, generally is not used for long due to smell, irritation and generally being a pain in the ass.
You can deliver as much TA to the system (by applying more) using a transdermal as you wish. It can be very effective.
http://www.geocities.com/finasol101
The DMSO route, though it works, generally is not used for long due to smell, irritation and generally being a pain in the ass.
You can deliver as much TA to the system (by applying more) using a transdermal as you wish. It can be very effective.
http://www.geocities.com/finasol101
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DaddyX
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1-2 pellets per day ? not even close to enough. like said already atleast 4-5 a day atleast
More people talking apples and oranges.
There seems to be quite a large difference in absorption depending upon HOW people "take" fina "orally".
Its like having your chick ...
lick your dick like a popsicle
vs
swallowing it whole, with her lips around your balls, until you blow a load.
Sure, they might both be called a "blow job" but which is more effective?
Most of the people who state "20%" are talking about people actually swallowing the tablets whole. Even if they are crushed, the pt is you are basically making your digestive system do the absorption for you. That is quite inefficient.
However many guys seem to have much better experiences when "taking fine orally" but yet having it being absorbed sublingually. They crush the pellets and then chew on them or hodl it betwene their cheeck and gum like chewing tobacco. This seems to work MUCH better.
There seems to be quite a large difference in absorption depending upon HOW people "take" fina "orally".
Its like having your chick ...
lick your dick like a popsicle
vs
swallowing it whole, with her lips around your balls, until you blow a load.
Sure, they might both be called a "blow job" but which is more effective?
Most of the people who state "20%" are talking about people actually swallowing the tablets whole. Even if they are crushed, the pt is you are basically making your digestive system do the absorption for you. That is quite inefficient.
However many guys seem to have much better experiences when "taking fine orally" but yet having it being absorbed sublingually. They crush the pellets and then chew on them or hodl it betwene their cheeck and gum like chewing tobacco. This seems to work MUCH better.
Its a shame, really, that we have no real numbers, in terms of absorption rates and effciency, for
Intramuscular (Injected)
Oral (sublingual)
Transdermal (DMSO)
Transdermal (Ethyl? Achohol)
Transdermal (PloGel)
Oral (swallow)
I habe no real data to go on, but my guess would be that it would be the above order from bext to worse.
Any thoughts?
Intramuscular (Injected)
Oral (sublingual)
Transdermal (DMSO)
Transdermal (Ethyl? Achohol)
Transdermal (PloGel)
Oral (swallow)
I habe no real data to go on, but my guess would be that it would be the above order from bext to worse.
Any thoughts?
He's right on the money, except you'll probably get a rash from the DMSO. Nasty rash, too! You'll need the good shit, thought- 95% DMSO solution, and give a good healthy blow on the spot right after you put it on... feels real good... get ready to put 6 pellets on your skin per day to get an amount even worth it... Expireance talking here... My advice... Inject or Put 'em in your mouth, bro...freakazoid said:
Riker29 said:
There are really too many variables to sort this accurately. But I'll add some comments...
The different forms of delivery do have an affect on the average and variance of the blood levels of TA. This in turn affects gains.
IM - I believe (no proof) that the injection location and composition of the solution affect absorption speed & consistency. ED offers moderately more stable levels than EOD.
Oral (sublingual) - Oral administration of TA causes sharp spikes and then a sharp drop in levels. The longer that the TA is allowed to absorb into the mouth tissues, the better the results. The more spread out throughout the day, the better the results. The less that is ultimately swallowed the better the results. As you can imagine, this means the results vary widely depending on the individual's discipline.
Oral (swallow) - I've found no evidence on it's oral availability in humans. Results do show that at least some of it is orally available. However, blood levels do spike sharply and then drop. This can account for part or all of the lower reported results. Best results are achieved by spreading the dosages out throughout the day.
Transdermal (DMSO) - Results vary depending on the DMSO chosen, how well the TA was mixed with the DMSO, how long the mix remained on the skin, where it was applied, frequency of application and how well the area was protected. This method can be effective but in the real world few people stick with it for more than three weeks.
Transdermal (PloGel) - This can achieve good results. How carefully it is mixed and applied does affect results as well as frequency.
Transdermal (Mixed with commercial transdermal product such as 4ad or yohimine) - You can get positive results with this method but the solutions are already saturated with other active ingredients so much of the TA isn't actually delived and it's often impractical to apply more to get an equivalent TA dosage.
Transdermal (homebrew spray) - This can deliver outstanding results but some recipes are more effective than others.
It's my experience and opinion that twice-daily transdermally applied TA provides the most consistent blood levels. This *partially* offsets the amount of tren that isn't absorbed through the skin.
All of the above options (with some exceptions for TA mixed with commercial transdermal products) can deliver equivalent results but some are much more expensive and require more TA to accomplish this.
zen42 said:
Yep. I've tried PLOgel - PhloGel/etc and feel that, in comparison to DMSO, sucks. DMSO, the ugly nasty harsh paint thinner, is way more efficient at shoving crushed pellets through your skin. Unfortunately DMSO is hell - hell - hell. Not sure, but I wonder if PAR's concoction would be more elegant and efficient? I've tried a homebrew as well - Everclear+IPM+Oleic Acid and wasn't too impressed.
For those thinking about PLOgel - forget it. I don't see it being too efficient with hormones, especially when they are as primitive as crushed fina... Maybe pure fina, seperated from the fillers/etc would be ok though.
