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Addendum to Gym Rules and Rant

guldukat

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Anyone familiar with my posts knows that I'm a DC trainer. They also know I write a lot. It's a force of habit; I have an English degree which, while otherwise next to worthless, cultivated a love of hearing myself speak/write/etc.

But I'll try to stick to the nitty-gritty...that'll cut things down from a million nine to maybe 1.2 million words?

Hmm...we'll see, but I make no promises.

Anyway:

I'm going through a somewhat lighter training cycle at the moment, gearing up for that next big push. I'm still training at maybe 70% full capacity or so...no rest-pauses and nothing to failure, but still fairly tough. Workout by workout I can tell I'm getting ready to go really hard again!

Anyway, today I did leg presses. I only worked up to like 755 for 10 deep reps, but I was still pretty tired after that, the curls, calf raises on the leg press beforehand, etc. I was moving at a quick pace, too, finishing my workout in about half the time I ordinarily spend when lifting really hard. So, as I typically do, I "only" unloaded 6 plates on each side, leaving two/four total still on the leg press.

But I get ahead of myself.

While I was doing my set, there was some fat kid milling around near me. I watched him do some of THE worst bounce presses I've ever seen with 225 and then 245. I bet he wouldn't get 225x2 with even your regular touch-and-go style. (He would've been surprised if I grabbed it and did a couple of militaries with the fuckin' thing.)

Yet, when I was doing my quad stretch on the other side of the gym, this kid comes up to me and asks if I was done with the leg press. I said yes, I'd had enough fun over there, haha (grunting through my stretch, which if you haven't tried, gets rather painful).

Then he gave me some lip about how I should unload the rest of the plates because "the management was throwing people out" for leaving stuff loaded up.

?!

I've been a member of that gym for six years. I've trained for 11. And I was stronger than this kid after lifting for four-five months. Who is he, some relative newbie and definitely NOT the manager, to tell me this?

Still doing my stretch, I responded with something like, "I ain't too worried about it" then he walked off.

A bit later, I approached him and said I didn't mean to blow him off, but that talking to someone in the middle of a set (or stretch) is itself bad form. I didn't put it quite like that, but he got the point: don't fucking talk to someone while they're doing a set.

He shook my hand very limply and said something to the effect that, "Duh, yeah, you're like concentratin'..." The limp handshake irritated me...it's disrespectful to give someone a "fish," or so I was raised to believe. But I laughed and let it go.

The boy did seem a bit...slow, and I shouldn't pick on him. His intentions might've been good.

Then again, intentions are irrelevant. (Anyone watch Star Trek and seen the Borg? They're cyborgs that whip up on the Federation good guys in a lot of the Star Trek spin-off series. They say stuff like, "Blahblahblah is IRRELEVANT." They're supposed to be trillions of people and aliens all talking in unison, so it sounds synthesized and cool.

Of course, after Terminator, I've had a soft spot for cyborgs...)

Or as the saying goes, the road to hell is paved w/ good intent.

But the whole thing did irritate me, especially because I'm good about unloading bars and machines. (If you can't budge 2 wheels/side on that leg press, you don't need to touch it anyway. My ex-girlfriend, an out-of-shape 38 year old schoolteacher, could EASILY handle that shit.)

Maybe that's just a weak justification, and indeed, I should've left the thing unloaded. But that's not the point, either: it's not that kid's business to tell me so, let alone to presume I'll be "kicked out" for as much. (Yeah. Suuuure :rolleyes: Why didn't the little fat bastard help if he was so concerned?)

Therefore, I have come up with a new rule for Gold's Gym to adopt:

Thou shalt not speak to strangers during warm-up sets, work sets, stretches, or are otherwise exerting themselves.

Better yet:

Thou shalt not speak of gym rules to strangers unsolicited unless thou sense a clear and present danger to the welfare of thyself or to other lifters. Thou shalt leave general busy-bodyness to thy gym's staff.

While we're at it, it sure would be nice to make up some rules about excessive perfume or cologne. Some genius always thinks he/she must fill the air with their "scent," and walk right by you during breathing squats. I would rather have someone FART near me than smell some nasty perfume.

Don't get me wrong. It's okay to use a little something to cover one's French-like odors. But when you're using, oh, say, 750,000 parts cologne per million of air, something is NOT right.

The other rule that COULD be enforced is cell phones. I have one, but it seems like every dipshit in the gym has to bring them along and see that they ring some goofy tune every...oh, say, point five seconds.

Is it REALLY so important to talk to Billy Bob Blow Job in the middle of your endless sets of 20 lb. cable curls?

I think not.

I know this ground has been covered, and there will be people who say, "Ignore it." I'm all for that in general. But there are times that you cannot.

And I wouldn't be able to rant at all if I was always content with that. And I had fun writing this. So there :p
 
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Jordaz said:
Thats why I love my Home gym!

Boooo! No fair!

;)

Heh...I know what you mean.

I only wish I had the space to build my own gym. But it's probably good in a way that I don't have that much room...if I had weights in my house, I'd probably go crazy and be lifting all the time. I have a hard time restraining myself *shrugs*
 
Right, people pretty much leave me alone about stuff. I always rack my weights and am curtious, plus the gym manager at my gold's is a woman, and she flirts with me so, I'm unlikely to be tossed out. Of course I tell her stuff like I'm going to just leave 30 plates on the leg press if I'm too exhaused to remove them after the set. "You better not, Jason.. or I'll!!!... are you just messing with me again?" In any event, I don't know what I would say if I had someone tell me I might get through out for something other than laugh. As far as interrupting my sets, its pretty hard, because I'm focused and usually have my headphones cranked all the way up until I'm done training... then I walk around the gym and socialize, chat with the counter girls, etc. Hmmmm... ok I don't know where I was going with this. I think I type just to hear myself talk.
 
Hell no, I'm a very social person. Gyms are the bomb.
 
Good post guldukat. Its incredibly annoying when people talk to you as you are about to pull a deadlift, or in the middle of a bench press set. I try to stay away from everyone, usually in a powerrack, no one ever comes close to it. However some people still choose to do abs while talking on the cellphone, right near the squat rack as I am about to do some heavy squats. People just refuse to understand that when a 315 pound barbell hits you on the head, it hurts! Wait a few seconds, let me finish my set, then do your stupid 100 rep ab sets. Or when people stand next to you as you are doing 100+ lb dumbell presses, looking at themselves in the mirror. Anothe rpoint of ignorance, when a dumbell falls on your toe, its going to hurt you! Anyway its pretty nice to be in a gym full of skinnies, who stand like soldiers in the middle of the gym, in front of the mirrows, rhythmitcally doing curls... while I do some real lifts on the other end of the gym.
 
Rev, the only way I can find a free rack at my gym is early in the morning. Otherwise someone is always hanging from it doing leg raises the wrong way. Of course, once I get in it and start piling plates on a bar, or move a flat or incline bench into it, everyone just stays away and they don't even bother to ask me when I'll be done. Very nice.
 
Yeah, girls like me though, I'm practically one of them. I worry about how fat I look, I shave my legs, I love to talk, and even enjoy shopping. This ensures a continual supply of girls who like being around me. You should try it some time.
 
I used to have a problem with this too, theres a lot of high school kids at my gym that always try to gab...this worked for me, just wear headphones, I don't even connect mine to anything, its just tucked down my shirt and no one knows the diff, and no one bothers me :)
 
i disagree in regards to the FARTS part....


i really hate it when I get done doin a really intense set of cable curls or pec dec flies and I am breathing all extra heavy and I have to inhale the ass someone just busted and walked away from.
 
hellboy said:
No - I meant the OP guldukat - not you BBF.
It was a joke.

Right. And believe me, I've never heard that one before :rolleyes:

:) I'm teasing you back. Yes, it is true. I don't post much, but I say a LOT when I do post...especially when I am having a little fun.

I think I noted that I come from a heavy writing background. 30-40 pg. literary analysis papers--all geared toward one big argument, all cohesive--were not unheard of.

I'm trying very hard to break out of that habit, because it is not always productive. A page to explain how to do DB curls would be bogus, right? But it's tough. And the fact that I type so fast, like 118 words/min., makes it too easy for me to do this.

Maybe I should get a secretary job :)
 
jerkbox said:
i disagree in regards to the FARTS part....


i really hate it when I get done doin a really intense set of cable curls or pec dec flies and I am breathing all extra heavy and I have to inhale the ass someone just busted and walked away from.

I was teasing about the fart part :)

Rev, BBF, my main men--thanks!
 
"Thou shalt not speak to strangers during warm-up sets, work sets, stretches, or are otherwise exerting themselves."

oh come on Sean...I train at Golds & if you dont want anyone talking to you-- wear headphones!!!
 
I am always surprised by how nice the serious trainers tend to be compared to the guys nwe to it all. Last week as I walked in the gym unbeknownst to me a used up cinema ticket fell out my pocket as i fished for my always elusive membership card, this totally built guy who I see a lot in the gym picks it up and follows me in just to give it me back!
 
yep. its allways the arched back, ass off the bench, slamming the bar on his chest idiot benching 225 for one horrid assisted rep who is the azz hol. he weighs about 160 low bf so he thinks he is big. one of them was benching next to me last week. im not a monster so i hope i am coming off ok. but im in the top 10% strength wise. my bf is high though 20%. been on the keto diet for 3 months. since then my bw has gone from a loose 235 to a tightining 210. bench from 135 for reps to 275 for 3 sets 5 reps. in 6 weeks!!!!! im there to work, and be friendly. if the person is working hard also. if he is an idiot, i ignore him/her.
 
MsBeverlyHills said:
"Thou shalt not speak to strangers during warm-up sets, work sets, stretches, or are otherwise exerting themselves."

oh come on Sean...I train at Golds & if you dont want anyone talking to you-- wear headphones!!!

Heh :)

With all respects m'lady MBH, I should not have to. It's just common gym etiquette to not start yapping at someone when they're in the middle of something. I would not go bother Roy Jones Jr. in the middle of a sparring session; likewise, I do not want someone yammering at me while I'm lifting something heavy (other than my training partner, and he's encouraging me, not talking about some irrelevant b.s. on the other side of the gym).

Of course, the day people are all courteous is the day rocket-propelled pigs will fly. So, when I'm not with my training partner, it's probably a good thing to consider.
 
bds20002002 said:
yep. its allways the arched back, ass off the bench, slamming the bar on his chest idiot benching 225 for one horrid assisted rep who is the azz hol.

Yes.

This kid was probably 220 or so, maybe 35% bodyfat. He bounced 225 five times, but once or twice strict would have buried him.

I think he's a football player for a local high school. I know this school very well, and it's always been style over substance. Instead of giving the kid some solid instruction such that he could one day be a pimple on Ironlion's lifting butt, they just encourage him to lift "at all costs."

If I was to do that, I would've nailed 405 many years ago.

he weighs about 160 low bf so he thinks he is big. one of them was benching next to me last week. im not a monster so i hope i am coming off ok. but im in the top 10% strength wise. my bf is high though 20%. been on the keto diet for 3 months. since then my bw has gone from a loose 235 to a tightining 210. bench from 135 for reps to 275 for 3 sets 5 reps. in 6 weeks!!!!! im there to work, and be friendly. if the person is working hard also. if he is an idiot, i ignore him/her.

You're doing awesome. Keep it up! :)

But yeah, I've seen this "ripped little teenager" type too. When I first started out, I was sorta one of them :bawling: But then, I never told bigger guys that they were doing something wrong, and I certainly didn't threaten them.
 
I agree about the talking to someone during a set. . that is disrespectful.

The person squatting, deadlifting, or bench pressing is trying to concentrate. . . leave them be. . leave them be.
 
I don't workout at a gym. If I did, and somebody started speaking to me during a heavy set of anything, I would straight up tell them to "fuck off".
 
needsleep said:
I am always surprised by how nice the serious trainers tend to be compared to the guys nwe to it all.

AMEN!

Yes, this is very true. When I was at the same gym as NPC Mr. North Carolina Rodney Saunders, a beast of a guy who could easily have turned pro IMO, I found him to be incredibly friendly and open. I was only 16 at the time, and he made a point to complement how good I was doing at that age. That day, the only thing that could've made me happier was to have Heather Locklear fall in love with me ;)

Last week as I walked in the gym unbeknownst to me a used up cinema ticket fell out my pocket as i fished for my always elusive membership card, this totally built guy who I see a lot in the gym picks it up and follows me in just to give it me back!

Exactly. Nice guy.

Many big guys don't have anything to prove to anyone but themselves. They typically don't strut around flexing their lats real hard. They don't bully smaller guys. They're there to train.

Some half-wit teenager, though, is all about gaining acceptance. His self-worth is defined by what others think of him. So he walks around with ILS, tries to lift weights that are far too heavy for him, and looks hard to find a chink in his superiors' armor.
 
Zander1983 said:
I don't workout at a gym. If I did, and somebody started speaking to me during a heavy set of anything, I would straight up tell them to "fuck off".

If I ever train with you. . . I will be sure to leave you alone!;)
 
Zander1983 said:
I don't workout at a gym. If I did, and somebody started speaking to me during a heavy set of anything, I would straight up tell them to "fuck off".

I wish I could've, but in the throes of one of those stretches I couldn't say much of anything beyond "mommy."
 
louden, you could get away with saying whatever you wanted if we were training together!

Anyway, I'd just make you pay for the buffet because I wouldn't try to start something :D
 
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