About Arnold and Liquidex- (a repost)

[serge]

acording to some publications arnold did 50mg of dboll ed and primo. i personally have ran 1000mg test with 50mg dboll and tren at 500mg/week without any anti aromatise or anti ests and had no problems with gyno, i did get bloated though, i dont think that can be avoided without controlling estrogen, oh yeah, arnold was pretty bloated in the off season.

 

[el cubano]

Arnold used lots and lots of dbol and primo and proviron.

 

[Maxx Out]

Who knows, maybe gyno surgery was a hot item back then and we just didn't hear about it cause it was kept so hush-hush.

 

[GaryWary]

I saw a show on TLC not too long ago about steroids and bodybuilding. In an interview with Arnold he said that he has competed with steroids and without steroids, and it really made no difference to him whether he used them or not. He used them a lot at an early age to get the size. But let's face it, he definately has the genetics. And he trained his ass off. He was around positive people (friends) and they all wanted each other to succeed. He also had the time to put into training, nutrition and rest. Most of us have to working training, nutrition and rest into our lives after work or before work.

And Dorothy returned to Kansas. Peace was finally reached between the Israelis and the Palistinians.. I won the lottery.. The sky rained sweets on all the children... Arnold married a Kennedy connection (Maria Shriver) and began to recognise that fame and political and power aspirations could be damaged by his 'Monica Lewinsky' episode i.e. naughty hormonal bodybuilding drug use...

..and you went back to school like a good boy.

 

[GaryWary]

I expect Arnold was using about the same amount of drugs as what is now commonly recommended for a beginner cycle on this board. But I bet they used them for longer periods. How long has there been drug testing?

 

[JaredK]

This might be a bit off topic but I was wondering if anyone has a pic of Arnold during the offseason that they could post.

The only pic I've seen of him that made me think, whoah, where'd all that muscle go, was in the Summer 1995 Collector's Edition of FLEX. On page 127 (and I apologize for not having a scanner!) there is a pic of Arnold surrounded by a bunch of divers in France. This shot was taken in 1977 as a promotional stunt for Pumping Iron's debut at Cannes. In this pic Arnold does not have the deep slabs of pec meat, capped shoulders, or much leg development. While his bicep (he's standing in a single arm bicep pose) looks good and still has that trademark Arnie peak, he looks virtually untrained as a bodybuilder. Of course he's still big and has some beef but nothing-and I mean nothing-even resembling an Olympia physique.

Does this mean that all of the dieting, all of the animalistic intense training, meant nothing without his use of AS?

I know it sucks that I can't post the pic!!! Arrrggghhhh! Hopefully soemone else has this issue kicking around. The cover says "Summer Spectacular" and has Arnold on the cover, his back to the crowd, looking like he's getting ready to hit a rear double biceps.

 

[BigGerry]

Ive seen that picture and it did strike me how small he looked,kind of like a swimmers physique with biceps.He never lost them no matter how his weight fluctuated.There was a flex special i bought in the early 90's around 93,that was an arnold special, the front cover was a picture of arnold from the waist up wearing a vest and pointing his finger at the reader,the caption was "Arnold tells you!".I remember thinking how bad he looked on that cover big waisted,blocky and bloated.
There is also a story i read where arnold walked into vince Gironda's gym in the early 70's.Arnold was in the off season and full of his own success and importance.He introduced himself by saying "i'm Arnold Swartzanegger Mr Olympia" to which Vince replied,"really you look like a fat fuck to me."Classic stuff.
Sorry off topic i know.Please continue.

 

[Ercole]

Proviron the key?

If he used Proviron with his cycles, as someone posted above, wouldn't that block aromatization of the other gear? Or am I mixed up. (Just woke up, waiting for my coffee to kick in.)

 

[Jeff_rys]

Sorry Huge

quote you:
"Franco sure could have used some Liquidex when he won the 1980 olympia"

I thought Arnold won the 1980 O. Franco the 1981.

Sorry Decem, but i am not the one competing (LOL)

 

[TPH]

I have done cycles of dbol with 35-40 mgs ED and test 500 mg/wk. I've also done much greater does of dbol and test, with the liquid (most recently), nova, clomid.

I feel I have gotten much better results with the higher doses. I wish I could get similar results with lower doses (cheaper and safer), but I have clearly gotten better results with the higher doses. Thus needing the liquid as well as nova.

Yes, Arnold obviouly had a great physique. Maybe he is not 100% honest about his cycles. Maybe he could've been much bigger with bigger doses.

The only thing I know for sure is how my body responds. Sadly I respond much better with much higer doses.