About Arnold and Liquidex- (a repost)

[panerai]

Primo doesn't aromatise, and I'm sure, that Arnold wasn't taking 60-120mg of dbol a day, may be 30-40, if even, so he didn't need any kind of aromatise inhibitor.

 

[Bulldog_10]

where are you bulldog?

I'm here bro!

BTW, that wasn't a flame last time, just a little analogy. Glad you re-posted. Hearing some good points on both sides!

Why are you so against arimidex/liquidex? I'm using it now and it's working wonders. I'm also planning on using it for my next cycle too.

Thanks,
B-10

 

[decem]

Why are you so against arimidex/liquidex

i'm not against liquidex, i'm just pissed that i can't afford it.. lol.

just for clarification, this post is by no means intended to flame liquidex usage... i just don't see how people can recommend it as a "must" in even first-timer's or beginner's cycles. i would rather be recommended a cycle that would give great gains with little sides and not require the use of liquidex than be recommended a more harsh cycle that requires liquidex as a must.

i personally can't justify the cost. there were so many greats that never had access to this stuff and they had terrific physiques. to me, i would rather know their work out techniques, their diets, and their cycles that they did, without liquidex, than to just jump into a 750-1000mg test/wk and 40mg dbol cycle that requires the use of liquidex to prevent me from becoming the staypuff marshmallow man with tits.

i seem to be flip flopping my purposes for writing this thread as i keep finding different points that i would like to address.

so, to recap the points i would like to address:

A. i want to know what kinds of cycles the greats of the past did - without liquidex - that helped them create the physiques that will forever live on in history. maybe they did the same cycles as today and either just

1. were more at ease with the bloat and less worried about gyno (maybe they knew that you either get it or you don't or perhaps nolva is all you really need)

2. or perhaps they knew a different technique to keep bloat and gyno away.. in which case if we did more research it could open more doors on how to do our AAS in a safer manner and by spending less money

B. these greats could have had entirely different cycles, where they fully minimized bloat and gyno while continuing to make great gains, than today's BBs and the secret is close at hand. again, we could do more research - i don't know, kidnap arnold until he tells us the secret - and we too could be spending less money and having great gains.

C. millions of others have started out, with probably the same exact cycles as are recommended today, but without liquidex, and have made great gains with no sides - so why do people on the board insist on recommending liquidex/arimidex as a must to beginner's cycles and having these guys spend their hard earned dollar on something that simply isn't a necessity.

 

[Riker29]

Pehaps the issue is that Arnold was wuite unique, and genetically gifted ????!!!!!!!!

Jeez - so, uh you think that if you just "do what Arnold did" that you will look like Arnold? Wake up.

He won, and looked as good as he did for a lot of reason. But only SOME of them were reasons and factors which a person could control.

Dont you think most of the pros today have the same access to knowledge, gear, training, etc .....? And yet some get bigger, some look better ........ becuase some have genetics and aspects of who they are, how they are built, the pust them at an advantage over others.

duh.

Jeez - this is so obvious I cant belive someone would actually have to tell you this stuff.

 

[decem]

duh.

i'm guessing you're not the philosophical type huh.. riker??

 

[Spunky]

exactly what riker said. if u do the exact same cycles arnold did doesn't mean u will look like him.
he had a great environment and great training partners which helped him a ton. throw genetics into that
and a great workout routine and diet and u get his great body.

 

[decem]

ok... before replying - please refer back to A, B, and C three posts above this.

stop taking the "arnold has great genetics and i just got fucked in the gene pool" approach to it.

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

Franco sure could have used some Liquidex when he won the 1980 olympia.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

Primo doesn't aromatise, and I'm sure, that Arnold wasn't taking 60-120mg of dbol a day, may be 30-40, if even, so he didn't need any kind of aromatise inhibitor.

People need to realize that Arnold is genetically jacked and trying to compare yourself to Legend like Arnold is completely asinine.

 

[Molle_23]

Decem, I like your point, to sad nobody want to answer it.... I was thinking almost the same, why use Liquidex/amirex. I think you just need Liquidex/amirex when you begin to get trouble with gyno. If there is no trouble, use the nova !