about anavar

[overrx]

PURPOSE: A pilot study of 10 boys with DMD showed a positive effect of the steroid drug oxandrolone (Oxandrin). After treatment with the drug for three months, there was a slight average improvement in muscle strength scores, compared with the expected slight loss of strength over this time. The drug, Oxandrolone, made by Bio-Technology General is an "anabolic" steroid, very different from the prednisone type of steroid, which is "catabolic." It's a synthetic derivative of testosterone, a male hormone.

OPENING/CLOSING DATES: CLOSED

TARGET NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS: COMPLETED

RECRUITMENT STATUS: CLOSED

ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS: Sixteen boys, with a DMD diagnosis confirmed by either a DNA test or a dystrophin protein test, will be selected from each of four MDA Clinic centers. ****The boys should be 5 to 10 years-old**** and cannot have taken prednisone or any other steroid drug at any time.


ok now do u think they would prescribe oxandrolone to 5-10 yr olds if it suppressed their HPTA...i highlt doubt it, taken from
www.mdausa.org/research/ctrials.html.

 

[the_Pikey]

I keep hearing how pricey Anavar is, but I've never actually asked anyone for prices.

How much does an average cycle of Anavar go for black market?

 

[overrx]

it really depends on the brand you buy it on and the amount in certain cases....its cheap but very safe...imo its worth it, providing consistent strength gains, with some lbm...and almost all gains are retained

 

[ultragainz]

i love anavar and primo use it abuse and dont refuse it..

 

[BigWill]

ok now do u think they would prescribe oxandrolone to 5-10 yr olds if it suppressed their HPTA...i highlt doubt it, taken from
www.mdausa.org/research/ctrials.html.

Depends what DMD is....

 

[Wynn]

Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy

http://www.mdausa.org/disease/dmd.html

I noticed his excerpt is from under the Clinical Trials section. I also noticed an article referring to it under Research Updates titled " Oxandrolone has no benefit in DMD".

 

[‡ÅnãBöLïK]

The clinical doses are low at 0.12xweight, and low enough not to effect HPTA, they prob use about 10-12mg. Why are you care about the low HPTA effects anyways?

 

[ultragainz]

you can take high amounts of anavar and you wont get shutdown..

 

[Nimrod25]

anything over 20-25mg will shut u down.

 

[Nathan]

I want it! I want it! But it's too damn expensive. Maybe I'll bite the bullet. I wanna bridge through clomid next damn time. Errrggggh.

 

[Golfer18--old]

40mg shut me down cold turkey.

 

[manny78]

Anyway at 20 mg ED anavar is safe and gives good permanent results.

 

[PARABOLAN]

i read somewhere that 80 mg of ox a day will give u phenomenal gains...

 

[Golfer18--old]

I would love to ox @ 80mg, someday i will.

 

[manny78]

i read somewhere that 80 mg of ox a day will give u phenomenal gains...

.....and almost no sides.

 

[overrx]

Golfer did when u said ur hpta was shutdown, was that tested or just anecdotal?

 

[PARABOLAN]

is going over 100 mg a day a waste of ox??

 

[overrx]

most likely, i woudnlt go above 80 mg, i dont think it was designed for much higher dosages. Plus it works by increasing phosphocreatine levels in your muscle cells, eventually theyrs got to be a limit on how much creatine your body can produce. While I heard of great results of 80 mg a day, you NEED to supplement with creatine. I doubt upping the dosages would have any xtra effects

 

[Trevdog]

anything over 20-25mg will shut u down.

NOT!

Maybe it might shut YOU down, but I doubt it.

I took 50 mg. for 6 weeks with no noticeable inhibition.

 

[overrx]

just b/c it wasnt noticeable didnt mean it didnt happen, if someone actually has medical proof than post it, otherwise anecdotal evidence provides no solid evidence

 

[crimson coal]

I'm doing 75 mg a day and strength is skyrocketing.

 

[ultragainz]

it wont shut you down....even at 80mgs or more it wont shut you down

 

[Trevdog]

just b/c it wasnt noticeable didnt mean it didnt happen, if someone actually has medical proof than post it, otherwise anecdotal evidence provides no solid evidence

I hear what you are saying but remember that "medical proof" very often consists of a physician interpreting a patient's subjective description of his symptoms. Maybe for you it isn't "solid proof", but for me, when I have no loss of libido, no atrophy, no loss of ejaculatory volume, no mood changes, and no loss of energy, that's all the "solid proof" I need.

I think there are some studies out there, but I don't have any saved.

 

[overrx]

i have no loss of libido and im on tren.....thats why i ask for any medical evidence, obviously tren w/o test shuts down hpta, but "gut" symptoms offer no indication as to whether hpta is truly shut down or not

 

[mlomker]

I keep hearing how pricey Anavar is, but I've never actually asked anyone for prices.

It's anywhere from $150-$200 for 100 5mg tabs. Generics are cheaper but I've heard they're underdosed compared to Ttokyo. That's an easy $100/wk if used in a cycle.

 

[Trevdog]

i have no loss of libido and im on tren.....thats why i ask for any medical evidence, obviously tren w/o test shuts down hpta, but "gut" symptoms offer no indication as to whether hpta is truly shut down or not

Not true. Do you really think that without having blood work, a person can offer "no indication" whatsoever about whether his HPTA has been affected?

Here's a hypothetical situation: A bodybuilder comes off a long cycle of test and tren or deca and takes no clomid or anything else for recovery. A month later he complains that he can hardly get it up, he looks in the mirror and can tell he is shrinking, he feels apathetic and lacks motivation in the gym. Is it really your position that these symptoms offer absolutely "no indication" of the status of his HPTA?

Again I hear what you are saying. Tests offer the most definitive evidence of whether and by how much a person's HPTA has been suppressed, but by no means are subjective descriptions of symptoms worthless, and they are usually all that is available.

 

[overrx]

agreed they offer a good indication, but no solid proof, the thing is if you suffer obvious hpta symtoms you know its pretty much shutdown, but if u dont, then it doesnt mean it isnt.

 

[Trevdog]

agreed they offer a good indication, but no solid proof, the thing is if you suffer obvious hpta symtoms you know its pretty much shutdown, but if u dont, then it doesnt mean it isnt.

Word.

If ulter reads this thread, I suspect he can post some real studies about the effect of anavar on the HPTA.

 

[redhotavenger]

TTOKKYO IS GREAT

IM STARTING MY ANAVAR IN 3 WEEKS, CAN'T WAIT............

 

[ultragainz]

anavar wont shut you down...even over 80mgs a day....

 

[flickenu]

anavar wont shut you down...even over 80mgs a day....

So why is it that golfer18 and other's say their hpta was shut down? Do you think they're lying about it or something? I just don't see how you can say it's impossible for anavar to shut you down. So you're guarenteeing me that i won't need my clomid after my current 12 week 40mg/ed ox cycle?

 

[AnabolicDiabetic]

Anavar can affect natural HPTA even at very low therapeutic doses. DON'T BELIEVE THIS BULLSHIT ABOUT ANAVAR NOT SHUTTING DOWN HPTA- IT CAN! www.oxandrin.com - go fucking educate yourself, get blood tests, and you won't have to rely on some of the bullshit being thrown around here.