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Abortion is not killing a human life

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2Thick said:
You cannot kill anything that is not alive.

Why do you continue to post this stupidity? Since I know that you are not a scientist, I will give you the benefit of the doubt, AGAIN, -although this is elementary biology. A fetus fits all the criteria of "LIFE", growth , motion, perpetuation of offspring, etc. as defined by science and basic logic.

If you took a fetus out of the womb anytime before the third trimester, it would die.

This is not a criteria for "life" nor "human" and it only takes the use of two or three neurons to understand why. A day old child will die outside of the womb, if neglected, also, same as a 99 year old invalid. Are these latter examples not "alive"? Are they not "human"?

Therefore, it is not alive. It is merely a parasite that survives because the mother is alive.

First, this is incorrect concerning the parasitical argument, since all parasites are different species from the host. What you are poorly attempting to argue is that they are "parasite-like", which then begs the question, what slope can we slide down in the expansion of "parasite-like" to argue for the termination of others? Anyone who exists off of the efforts of others? The newly born? The elderly? Welfare recipients? Liberals?

Second, you are not even bright enough to understand that your claim that they are parasites destroys your original assertion, since all "parasites" are ALIVE and independant organisms. There is no "non-living" parasites, save viruses which are in catagorical limbo.

If the mom dies and the baby dies (if it were removed and allowed to breath on its own) then it was still part of the mother and not a life on its own.

Are conjoined twins not individuals simply because they are "attached"? If the baby, in your example, is saved by a medical intervention, while the mother dies, how do you reconcile this? Do doctors magically confer life to humans? What mysterious transformation occured that changed a non-living thing into a human being...air?

Why do you even argue this destroyed ignorant rhetoric? The pro-abortion side has long dropped this argument, for they know that it is false. They have adopted the new strategy which is "Choice", not the concept of human, life, or person, but simply "the right to choose". They have reconciled their position with the truth which is that they could not care if they are killing another person, only that they should have the right to kill. Some of the more radical pro-abortion advocates even extend the argument out to post-partum, claiming that infants are not sentient and therefore not deserving of moral recognition.
 
If someone has terminal cancer and I shoot them in the head 5 times with a shot gun...is it murder since they were not going to survive anyway?

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
If someone has terminal cancer and I shoot them in the head 5 times with a shot gun...is it murder since they were not going to survive anyway?

B True

no

it's called a favor
 
b fold the truth said:
If someone has terminal cancer and I shoot them in the head 5 times with a shot gun...is it murder since they were not going to survive anyway?

B True

It depends, do they have real cancer or "fake" internet cancer? :)
 
2Thick said:
You cannot kill anything that is not alive.

If you took a fetus out of the womb anytime before the third trimester, it would die.

Therefore, it is not alive. It is merely a parasite that survives because the mother is alive.

If the mom dies and the baby dies (if it were removed and allowed to breath on its own) then it was still part of the mother and not a life on its own.

it really doesnt matter how you slice this arguement, people are going to have and hold thier believes regardless one way or another.

but if i wanted to counter your arguement that the "parasite" as you put it will only survive as long as the mother is living and supporting it. i would simply say that one day science will advance enough that the "parasite" will be able to survive if taken out of the womb at even earlier stages than the 3rd trimester. i dont know what the earliest "parasite" baby has survived as a new born but as we have advanced in science i would bet that the age of a surviving newborn has decreased. so in conclusion, if we re-examine your arguement in the future im almost positive your theory would prove incorrect. one day conception and birth will take place in someones laboratory.
 
2Thick said:
If you try to argue the "potential life" angle then you are a murderer ever time you masturbate or menstrate.

Fucking baby killer!

i think you would have to draw the line somewhere when you use the word "potential".
 
2Thick said:


Emotions are for the weak.

Then again, most humans are weak....

hahaha! why do you seem to get so emotional debating topics here? is your passion not an emotion or driven by emotions?
 
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