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Boza1

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Hi guys . I am going on my first cycle this week and its an only oral cycle as many others firsts...

Age: 25
Weight: 200lbs
Height: 5'6

Since I do not know how my body will react on dball or anadrol I don't know which one of them to choose. I got very good bloodpressure, unsually good and overall I know my diet very well and I got 500 10mg nolvadex ready (My brother gave them to me).

My goals are mainly to increase in muscle size, I know both of these will make me bloat cuz of all water retention. Which one of these would you consider best as far as gaining size AND keep it after a good PCT with a good diet? I've heard lots of different things about it, some people tend to lose everything after anadrol some doesnt. I don't know how easy it is for me to get gyno hopefully its not easy since dball are notorius for gyno while anadrol rarely gives it(?)

Well I hope I get some serious answers, thanks.
 
Hi guys . I am going on my first cycle this week and its an only oral cycle as many others firsts...

Age: 25
Weight: 200lbs
Height: 5'6

Since I do not know how my body will react on dball or anadrol I don't know which one of them to choose. I got very good bloodpressure, unsually good and overall I know my diet very well and I got 500 10mg nolvadex ready (My brother gave them to me).

My goals are mainly to increase in muscle size, I know both of these will make me bloat cuz of all water retention. Which one of these would you consider best as far as gaining size AND keep it after a good PCT with a good diet? I've heard lots of different things about it, some people tend to lose everything after anadrol some doesnt. I don't know how easy it is for me to get gyno hopefully its not easy since dball are notorius for gyno while anadrol rarely gives it(?)

Well I hope I get some serious answers, thanks.

First off it's call "D-Bol", not DBall!LOL! Sorry couldn't help it. Most start with Dbol on their first cycle. Adrol is a little more harsh as far as sides go. Either one will work. You never know which will work best for you until you try. And again I would run it with test, whichever way you go.
 
Okey well I want my first cycle to be oral only . No testo E or testo C. I know ill prolly lose more because I do not use testo but thats a risk I have to take. I know its different for everybody but isnt more usual to lose alot of gains at pct on drol than on dbol?
 
Okey well I want my first cycle to be oral only . No testo E or testo C. I know ill prolly lose more because I do not use testo but thats a risk I have to take. I know its different for everybody but isnt more usual to lose alot of gains at pct on drol than on dbol?

If you are talking actual gains, not water retention, then I would go with DBol. Again it depends on the person, but dbol is great for building mass with less sides than drol.
 
If you are talking actual gains, not water retention, then I would go with DBol. Again it depends on the person, but dbol is great for building mass with less sides than drol.

Okay. Fair enough. Then I am probably going with 50mg ed 50days with dbol.
How easy is it to experience gyno durning a dbol cycle?
And if I experience it and drop 60mg nolva first day, then 40mg each day til its gone could I run rest of the cycle on 10mg nolvadex without any problems?
 
Okay. Fair enough. Then I am probably going with 50mg ed 50days with dbol.
How easy is it to experience gyno durning a dbol cycle?
And if I experience it and drop 60mg nolva first day, then 40mg each day til its gone could I run rest of the cycle on 10mg nolvadex without any problems?

I would get an AI like adex or letro to combat gyno. Run nolva too, but only 10 mgs/day. I found that when eating a high carb diet with dbol, gyno is much more prevalent. I believe it's due to gaining more fat during the cycle, which in turn increases estrogen levels.
 
Okey well I want my first cycle to be oral only . No testo E or testo C. I know ill prolly lose more because I do not use testo but thats a risk I have to take. I know its different for everybody but isnt more usual to lose alot of gains at pct on drol than on dbol?

Between the two I'd take Dbol every time; anadrol gives me headaches and makes me feel like shit. BTW, anadrol is probably worse for me when it comes to gyno.

My first cycle was Dbol only. Three weeks in I lost my libido and it didn't come back until 3 weeks after the cycle ended. So, it's not just a matter of not holding gains if you do a cycle with no testosterone.

Since much of the gains from either Dbol or anadrol will come from water (bloat), you will lose a lot of the weight posts cycle either way. The two most important things while on your planned cycle are:

1.) Eat like a horse; shoot for 600g of protein and at least 4,000 cal per day.

2.) Train like a beast. You will have more strength and recover much faster so take advantage of the time you are on to lift heavier, longer, and more often then you do now.

Those two factors more than anything else will determine how good your results are.
 
I would get an AI like adex or letro to combat gyno. Run nolva too, but only 10 mgs/day. I found that when eating a high carb diet with dbol, gyno is much more prevalent. I believe it's due to gaining more fat during the cycle, which in turn increases estrogen levels.

Okay, well you probably will tell me now that I should wait til I can pay an AI or w/e but since I can't afford it at the moment I will be running 10mg nolva /ED and hope that it will prevent gyno:)
 
Okay, well you probably will tell me now that I should wait til I can pay an AI or w/e but since I can't afford it at the moment I will be running 10mg nolva /ED and hope that it will prevent gyno:)

Running 50mg/day of Dbol with 10mg/day of nolvadex you will probably not experience gyno; but it's not 100% guaranteed.
 
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