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AAS shutdown

I agree with everything BigRupe said, and additionally it sounds like you may have a slight addiction on your hands. You have to be well disciplined with this stuff. Jamming as much crap as you can into your body isn't going to make you a monster in a year.

Your ramping of doses was a little crazy and your lack of time off resulted in exactly what anyone would have predicted ahead of time. At least you're learning a lesson. You're young enough you shouldn't have a problem recovering over time.
 
BigRupe said:
I am just amazed at some of the dosages many of you are taking.

Guys if you want long term results with minimal health risk then PLEASE stop cycling non stop, lower your cycle lengths, let time, nutrition, hydration, rest and small amounts of AAS do the job. Take LONG breaks between cycles and follow up with an aggressive PCT!

I see no reason on earth why someone 22 years of age feels the need to take so much gear.

Guys you have your whole life ahead of you. Train smart, eat right, and if you feel you MUST take AAS then do so wisely and after seeking LOTS of help and advise on the boards.

We all lift to make ourselves LOOK good, but why look perfect on the outside when you are rotting on the inside?

What have you accomplished?

Oh well off my soap box, but I get so worried about the young guys here who seem to be taking the kind of doses that the pros are taking.

I bet Arnold in his best didn't take such massive doses!
Great post
 
bruce410 said:
10 days straight 1000ius of hcg, along with 20mg of nolva ed for 6 weeks, clomid 300mg ed week 1, 100mg ed weeks 2-3. also get some proviron for libido and sex drive,


I respectfully disagree. Way too much HCG in my opinion. You run the chance of permanent leydig cell damage!! And running HCG concomitantly with Clomid is rather counter-productive.

Take your time and recover the proper way.

Stop all gear, run HCG at 500 IU's MWF for a few weeks (3-4?) let your morning wood be the judge. You can run an AI or Nolvadex with it if you're concerned about gyno.

THEN, cease your HCG use and begin Clomid/Nolvadex therapy. It will come around as you have AGE working on your side. Then stay off AS for awhile and allow your body to fully recover. It will.
 
always open to suggestion, however, i always ran the way you are talking about. last cycle i came off deca and test, ran the hcg mwf 3 weeks with my nolva and clomid and i did not recover till i did 10days straight of 500ius with the nolva/clomid mix. if you go to an endo this is what he will tell you to do. it worked much better for me, i'm going by experience. i understand your point and i agree some guys taking like 2500ius for days straight is dumb.
Whacked said:
I respectfully disagree. Way too much HCG in my opinion. You run the chance of permanent leydig cell damage!! And running HCG concomitantly with Clomid is rather counter-productive.

Take your time and recover the proper way.

Stop all gear, run HCG at 500 IU's MWF for a few weeks (3-4?) let your morning wood be the judge. You can run an AI or Nolvadex with it if you're concerned about gyno.

THEN, cease your HCG use and begin Clomid/Nolvadex therapy. It will come around as you have AGE working on your side. Then stay off AS for awhile and allow your body to fully recover. It will.
 
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