Aas Newbie Seeking Critique

[digital duck]

newbie considering stacking:

weeks 1-12: 400mg. equpoise
weeks 1-12: 300mg. winnie

GOALS: 20lbs.+ of new shredded muscle, keepable gains, minimal side, little-to-no gyno/water retention.

STATS: 6' 2", 225lbs, 10% body fat, 3 years serious training.

4500 calories pd (35% pro., 55% carbs, 10% fat)

should i addition any post AAS therapy? If so what?

ANY KNOWLEDGABLE ADVICE GREATLY APPRICIATED!!!

 

[satchboogie]

runnin winny for 12 weeks is very stressful on the liver.

i would use winny the last 4 weeks only, and would jumpstart the cycle with some dbols or anadrol the first 3 weeks.

bump eq up to 600-800mg.

 

[digital duck]

Could I Jumpstart Cycle With Test For 3 Weeks? Dont Want To Take Orals.

 

[satchboogie]

how about doing some research first!!!

and read this when you get a chance:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3542042#post3542042

 

[digital duck]

I've Done Lots Of Research. I Actually Picked This Cycle From
"anabolics 2002" By William Llewellyn.

I Read Your Attachment.....

"what Is Your Point"......... "you Too Were Once A Newbie"

 

[satchboogie]

look up these terms dude:

frontloading
jumpstart
newbie questions do's and dont's
research pays off
dont waste people's time

 

[Naeblis]

I'd suggest Mag-10 instead but it looks like they discontinued it.

 

[Captain Planet]

First of all, don't run a 17-aa steroid for 12 weeeks, its hard on the liver. Second, you won't be able to start PCT for a while if you run EQ for 12 weeks, not saying that it is a bad idea, but maybe something to consider. Perhaps shorter esters would be good your first time around.

I would add test to that cycle. Without testosterone you will notice your energy fades fast, plus ur willy won't work . Besides, its the best AAS on the planet for gaining mass. Everyone worries about the sides, but you have to ask yourself-Are a few side effects for a few weeks worth 20lbs of muscle to me? If no, don't use AAS, you cannot use a stack potent enough to gain 20lbs without experiencing some sides, unless you are just geneticlaly not prone to any, which is possible. If yes, add some test!

 

[Mavy]

You are so patient with newbies Satch! hahaha. I have a new auto response on my e-mail .. it says ...

"If you are new and starting out, please contact my good bro Satchboogie. He is more than helpfull and always excited to help any newbies, and dosent mind doing their research for them. There is nothing better to do in Turkey anyways. BTW. There is no such thing as a stupid question so ask-a-way!"

Mavy

 

[WolfPack Charlie]

Pretty much what everyone has said is true. 12 weeks of winny is very excessive, 8 weeks tops without killing your liver, 6 weeks to be safe. Also, Eq and Winny will not give you 20 pounds of quality shredded muscle as neither are huge mass builders. Maybe 10 pounds of quality muscle is realistic. For more muscle gains add Test, but you will have some bloat even with the Eq and Winny, but that would be better bang for your buck in my opinion.