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Many sports are dominated by black athlete's and I've always wondered why. Obviously those athletes must be genetically superior, but why?

I was talking about this with my friend the other day and he was just saying that many of the black slaves that couldn't survive or were weaker just died off. The fittest remained. Would this explain why their descendants are of great physical gene pools? I guess so...

Is there any other reasons as to why so many sports would be dominated by black athletes.

Not trying to single out any people or anything, I've just always wondered.
 
CEASAR said:
Many sports are dominated by black athlete's and I've always wondered why. Obviously those athletes must be genetically superior, but why?

I was talking about this with my friend the other day and he was just saying that many of the black slaves that couldn't survive or were weaker just died off. The fittest remained. Would this explain why their descendants are of great physical gene pools? I guess so...

Is there any other reasons as to why so many sports would be dominated by black athletes.

Not trying to single out any people or anything, I've just always wondered.

Because their cocks are bigger. Actually I think it's the fried chicken and watermelon.
 
biteme said:
Because their cocks are bigger. Actually I think it's the fried chicken and watermelon.

Three legs would be better than two, I suppose...

but moving side to side would be more difficult. bad for football and basketball.
 
see... think like biteme and do the opposite...

because the people dominating the sports had a talent and they worked their asses off to develop that talent and make something of themselves.
 
CEASAR said:
Many sports are dominated by black athlete's and I've always wondered why. Obviously those athletes must be genetically superior, but why?

I was talking about this with my friend the other day and he was just saying that many of the black slaves that couldn't survive or were weaker just died off. The fittest remained. Would this explain why their descendants are of great physical gene pools? I guess so...

Is there any other reasons as to why so many sports would be dominated by black athletes.

Not trying to single out any people or anything, I've just always wondered.

uh.. because theres more money in competing in sports than stealing cars????


kidding but this thread is a bad idea....
 
madbomber31 said:
see... think like biteme and do the opposite...

because the people dominating the sports had a talent and they worked their asses off to develop that talent and make something of themselves.

Dude that has nothing to do with it. I'm telling you it's all in the chicken and watermelon. Nowitski eats a steady diet of it.
 
biteme said:
Dude that has nothing to do with it. I'm telling you it's all in the chicken and watermelon. Nowitski eats a steady diet of it.


He must be South African American German.
 
MsBeverlyHills said:
uh.. because theres more money in competing in sports than stealing cars????


kidding but this thread is a bad idea....

tell me why this thread is a bad idea?

I think it's a fair speculation.

And yes, I am not doubting that they worked hard to get there. As with any of the other players, but what about the other players who worked hard? All i want to know is, why would there be so MANY of the ethnicity dominating?

if it's not genetics then what? pure desire and and work ethic? for that many men and women?
 
The black's muscular structure is different than the white's; particularly in the calves. Something to do with the insertion point of the tendon, resulting in better jumping ability, among others.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
The black's muscular structure is different than the white's; particularly in the calves. Something to do with the insertion point of the tendon, resulting in better jumping ability, among others.

yes, i've heard of something like this. thanks maing

white man cant jump....
 
The arguments i've heard have some natural selection in them (yes, the breeding of slaves to optimize physical characteristics). But there is another argument -- an economic one. It says blacks have fewer professional opportunities thus spend more time and energy trying to succeed in sports.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
The black's muscular structure is different than the white's; particularly in the calves. Something to do with the insertion point of the tendon, resulting in better jumping ability, among others.


There's a difference in Fast and Slow Twitch fibers in African Americans and Caucasians.

You can find "plenty" of data to back up this claim.
 
Jimmy the Greek got fired for analyzing this by using the breeding of slaves for genetic purposes... but it plays a role to some extent. also they have longer quads in general and there calves are inserted different.

However, eventually we will all be one nice taupe color and none of this will matter because if you think you are 100% of anything you are prolly wrong.
 
this thread will go downhill tomorrow morning
 
Dial_tone said:
this thread will go downhill tomorrow morning


I have the same feeling bro......dont know why, but seems like this just might rub some people wrong........

They will argue that there is many white athletes just as good, but hey

Only One Jordan is all im gonna say.....
 
I think you will find too much variation in limb proportions, hip proportions, calf insertion points, and fast twitch/slow twitch muscle rations among just the black population for any of these absurd generalizations to hold up. For example, Dial_tone or GJohnson probably have little in common, physically, with either a 7' NBA player or a Kenyan long distance runner.

Apologies for using you guys as "specimens"...
 
Sanel27 said:
I have the same feeling bro......dont know why, but seems like this just might rub some people wrong........

They will argue that there is many white athletes just as good, but hey

Only One Jordan is all im gonna say.....

Or his exact physical opposite, who was (for all intents and purposes) every bit as good...................Larry Bird.
 
It's funny to hear all you guys give biological reasons why blacks are better athletes than whites (generally) saying stuff like slow/fast twitch fibers, muscle density etc. These are REAL genetic differences.....................

But woe be it to the guy that suggests the failure for blacks to dominate intellectual endeavors is also related to genetic differences.
 
CEASAR said:
Many sports are dominated by black athlete's and I've always wondered why. Obviously those athletes must be genetically superior, but why?

I was talking about this with my friend the other day and he was just saying that many of the black slaves that couldn't survive or were weaker just died off. The fittest remained. Would this explain why their descendants are of great physical gene pools? I guess so...

Is there any other reasons as to why so many sports would be dominated by black athletes.

Not trying to single out any people or anything, I've just always wondered.

A question that has been pondered by many before you. I remember SI doing a feature article on this way back in the early eighties. Some say the slave thing. Some say cultural influences make some good in some sports and not others (how many black championship swimmers and hockey players do you see?)

Others say fast twitch vs slow twitch muscles.

Bottom line is you can find highly succesful athletes of all colors across the board today: black golfers, black tennis players, white sprinters, female indy racers, hell, white NBA MYPs, even white cornerbacks.

As for me, I was a 6'8" high jumper and a strong safety but I could never dunk.

Go figure.

I kinda think we are way beyond this.
 
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nuthinbutagoodtym said:
Or his exact physical opposite, who was (for all intents and purposes) every bit as good...................Larry Bird.


LMFAO... you just said bird was every bit as good as the greatest player in NBA history.
 
Hengst said:
It's funny to hear all you guys give biological reasons why blacks are better athletes than whites (generally) saying stuff like slow/fast twitch fibers, muscle density etc. These are REAL genetic differences.....................

But woe be it to the guy that suggests the failure for blacks to dominate intellectual endeavors is also related to genetic differences.
ooof...I think Hitler propounded that theory. The whole eugenics thing comes to mind. Probably not the sort of thing that will win friends and influence people.
 
Hengst said:
It's funny to hear all you guys give biological reasons why blacks are better athletes than whites (generally) saying stuff like slow/fast twitch fibers, muscle density etc. These are REAL genetic differences.....................

But woe be it to the guy that suggests the failure for blacks to dominate intellectual endeavors is also related to genetic differences.

or maybe the fact that we've only been reading (legally) for about 150 years. We're just slow readers....we'll catch up eventually. :)
 
Hengst said:
But woe be it to the guy that suggests the failure for blacks to dominate intellectual endeavors is also related to genetic differences.

You mean like this guy? The author of The Bell Curve?

"Charles Murray explores the ways that low intelligence, independent of social, economic, or ethnic background, lies at the root of many of our social problems. He also discusses another taboo subject: that intelligence levels differ among ethnic groups.

However, if we accept that there are intelligence differences among groups, we must learn to avoid prejudicial assumptions about any individual of a given group whose intelligence level may be anywhere under the bell curve."

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0029146739/104-5103911-4084717?v=glance&n=283155
 
Dial_tone said:
this thread will go downhill tomorrow morning

naw man, I aint tryin to cause shit, and I mean well, I just care to be enlightned that's all.

peeps who turn subjects like into something taboo can blame themselves for why it makes things like this more difficult discuss openly. it's too bad, really.

thanks for many of the answers everyone. I wasnt really looking for anyone to generalize black athletes, but I was curious as to what specific reasons caused many to excel as they do.

I got the answer, now everyone can stop whinning. lol

lol, jerome iginla, wasnt he the 04 MVP in the nhl?

...he must've been be juicing :rolleyes: (god forbid I give credit to a black man..) :rolleyes:
 
HeatherRae said:
ooof...I think Hitler propounded that theory. The whole eugenics thing comes to mind. Probably not the sort of thing that will win friends and influence people.
maybe not win frineds
but dude did influence
 
on the NFL wonderlic quiz
tom brady scored 32
dan marino got 16
mr marino never won a super bowl
 
4everhung said:
on the NFL wonderlic quiz
tom brady scored 32
dan marino got 16
mr marino never won a super bowl

So you're saying the Titans could be in trouble?
 
jimmy d said:
its more about sports as away out. look at the change in baseball to poor latin american countries

Of course, look at Joachim Noah. He needed a way out, that's why he became such a great basketball player. Same thing with Grant Hill, Barry Bonds and Ken Griffey, Jr.
 
for the record offensive tackles are the highest scoring postion
and then qb
 
Longhorn85 said:
Of course, look at Joachim Noah. He needed a way out, that's why he became such a great basketball player. Same thing with Grant Hill, Barry Bonds and Ken Griffey, Jr.
my brother and griffey jr were classmates at moeller high in cincinnati
junior paid my brother 5 dollars to take a math test for him
 
Longhorn85 said:
Didn't know Jr went to Moeller. Did he or you or your bro play for Gerry Faust?
I didn't go to moeller myself
my brother was there in the mid-eighties earning a full football scholarship to penn state
you don't need much observation skills to realize griffey isn't too sharp
but I bet bonds scores much higher than average
 
Longhorn85 said:
Of course, look at Joachim Noah. He needed a way out, that's why he became such a great basketball player. Same thing with Grant Hill, Barry Bonds and Ken Griffey, Jr.

How do you figure Joachim Noah needed a way out? You know who his father is? I doubt he was hurting for pizza money.
 
Dial_tone said:
How do you figure Joachim Noah needed a way out? You know who his father is? I doubt he was hurting for pizza money.

That's the point my man, all of those brothers I mentioned have rich daddys, and there are many more out there. I don't agree that finding a way out drives all black athletes.
 
Longhorn85 said:
That's the point my man, all of those brothers I mentioned have rich daddys, and there are many more out there. I don't agree that finding a way out drives all black athletes.
im pretty sure dt isnt black after he failed to realize those 4 came from rich families
 
hamstershaver said:
im pretty sure dt isnt black after he failed to realize those 4 came from rich families

not the first person on EF to say so either.
 
Many of today's African American youth bank their future on being good athletes. Although there are many great black scholars, doctors, lawyers, engineers etc. the majority see themselves as excelling in life by excelling in sports.
 
gjohnson5 said:
That whole chicken , bisquit and watermelon thing... that was last generation. In this generation blacks run faster and jump higher from being chased by the cops
I call bullshit
 
hamstershaver said:
im pretty sure dt isnt black after he failed to realize those 4 came from rich families

What it tells me is that DT's priority is being a big booty connoisseur, not following pro sports.
 
Smurfy said:
I served him Ice Cream in 1986. He tipped me.

"Never state a theory about the perceived superiority of the black athlete on television. It could cost you your job. Now, where's my double scoop of Tutti Fruiti?"
 
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